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SuperMario

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #602 on: December 08, 2023, 12:58:58 PM »
I just think after four years in the program, if he was gonna be a Dude he would have been one by now. He's always gotten playing time when he wasn't injured but never really showed a ton. Egbuka was hurt a lot last season and he was the #2 and still finished with only 26 catches for 270 yards and 0 touchdowns. His best game was probably the Michigan game, solely because he was credited with a catch and fumble. A change in scenery makes a lot of sense.
In fairness, he competed with Egbuka, Marvin, Olave, Wilson & Smith-njigba and I'd take any single one of them on my NFL team. 

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #603 on: December 08, 2023, 01:14:17 PM »
In fairness, he competed with Egbuka, Marvin, Olave, Wilson & Smith-njigba and I'd take any single one of them on my NFL team.
I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #604 on: December 08, 2023, 01:57:14 PM »
I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.
I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.

If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker.  If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #605 on: December 08, 2023, 02:53:28 PM »
I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.

If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker.  If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?
It would not be the incoming freshman He would need to worry about. ( with the possible exception of Jeremiah Smith). 

you have Carnell Tate and Brandon Iniss ready to explode.  You also have Noah Rogers, Bryson Rodger’s, Kojo Antwi and Kyion Grayes-All reported to be ready to go after a couple seasons under Hartline.  And that’s after Burton transferred to Auburn and Brown to Iowa this last year.
They say the fastest one of all of them is Jayden Ballard.  he is a part returner and has played sparingly at wide receiver and mop up duty, but he already has the NFL’s attention in a big way after being at all of CJ Strouds, NFL workouts 

Fleming was a prized recruit for Penn State. If he went there, as just one example, he would be an immediate on the field impact maker, and may there go to Guy. As he sits right now, because of his shoulder injury, he hasn’t caught that many passes and he wants to upgrade his NFL stock. he’s probably smart to try to do that somewhere else where he’s going to be the man.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #606 on: December 08, 2023, 03:01:29 PM »
I agree with all of that outside of the last statement. 5 star commits at WR rarely impact the team in year 1.

If I was in his shoes, the only reason i would leave WR U in his position, would be if I landed somewhere that has a system, where passing is the priority and the defenses faced will be weaker.  If not, I'd work my tail off to step into stardom role at WR U. If he expects to make it to the next level, going somewhere else is unlikely to provide a greater opportunity than the one at OSU. If you can't beat out incoming Freshman that have never played at that level, how could you possibly expect to beat out NFL talent?
I do see where you are coming from.  I actually asked roughly the same question about him because my initial thought was that with the expected departures of Harrison and Egbuka he should move up to WR1, why leave?  

That said, I think that we should think about the mentality of most of these guys.  To their defense, it has to be a MAJOR mental adjustment to go from being THE MAN in HS and basically your entire football-playing life to getting on campus and finding out that you are not only not the greatest player the staff has ever seen, you aren't even the best at your own position on the current roster and you aren't even good enough to start or possibly even play as a freshman.  

Imagine yourself in that situation.  You are a WR for a HS team and you just DOMINATE the opposing DB's that try to cover you.  You are THE STAR of your team.  Moreover, it has ALWAYS been this way for you.  You've been THAT GUY ever since you first tried on pads.  Then during Fall Camp your position coach calls you into his office to tell you that they plan to redshirt you.  I'm sure he would try to put it as nicely as possible but the underlying message is:  "You aren't good enough to contribute to this team."  I think that would be devastating for a lot of guys.  

I think it makes more sense when you think about that mentality.  Now you have spent years at Ohio State toiling behind Olave, JSN, Marv, Egbuka and there is no guarantee that both Marv and Egbuka will leave (probably but from Fleming's perspective he may not 100% know that) nor is there any guarantee that you'll beat out Tate and the Freshman for WR1 nor even WR2.  

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #607 on: December 08, 2023, 03:08:04 PM »
I do see where you are coming from.  I actually asked roughly the same question about him because my initial thought was that with the expected departures of Harrison and Egbuka he should move up to WR1, why leave? 

That said, I think that we should think about the mentality of most of these guys.  To their defense, it has to be a MAJOR mental adjustment to go from being THE MAN in HS and basically your entire football-playing life to getting on campus and finding out that you are not only not the greatest player the staff has ever seen, you aren't even the best at your own position on the current roster and you aren't even good enough to start or possibly even play as a freshman. 

Imagine yourself in that situation.  You are a WR for a HS team and you just DOMINATE the opposing DB's that try to cover you.  You are THE STAR of your team.  Moreover, it has ALWAYS been this way for you.  You've been THAT GUY ever since you first tried on pads.  Then during Fall Camp your position coach calls you into his office to tell you that they plan to redshirt you.  I'm sure he would try to put it as nicely as possible but the underlying message is:  "You aren't good enough to contribute to this team."  I think that would be devastating for a lot of guys. 

I think it makes more sense when you think about that mentality.  Now you have spent years at Ohio State toiling behind Olave, JSN, Marv, Egbuka and there is no guarantee that both Marv and Egbuka will leave (probably but from Fleming's perspective he may not 100% know that) nor is there any guarantee that you'll beat out Tate and the Freshman for WR1 nor even WR2. 
He starts because he is a ferocious blocker and a reliable pass catcher.  There are better pass catchers and route runners behind him.  It’s really pretty simple.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #608 on: December 08, 2023, 04:25:00 PM »
I agree, but nothing he's done at OSU has gotten the NFL interested, and there is no guarantee he will have any bigger role next season. We don't even know if Egbuka is leaving yet, they clearly like Tate a lot, and they have two more five star receivers committed.
The best throw/catch I saw Brown make(this season) was to Tate,just in the front corner of the endzone.That sold me on him getting more snaps as the season progressed .Nice placement by Brown and Tate keeping his feet in and making the snag
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« Reply #609 on: December 08, 2023, 04:28:05 PM »
He starts because he is a ferocious blocker and a reliable pass catcher.  There are better pass catchers and route runners behind him.  It’s really pretty simple.
Or because he has more yrs than Tate it seems Day did that to Hayden also,make the effing grab or next man up
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #610 on: December 08, 2023, 04:32:13 PM »
Or because he has more yrs than Tate it seems Day did that to Hayden also,make the effing grab or next man up
Tate needs a lot of work on his blocking
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #611 on: December 08, 2023, 04:35:59 PM »
Tate needs a lot of work on his blocking
Perhaps but that would be after the fact when the other so called receivers aren't hanging onto the rock you don't have to block.Let Tate catch the fooking thing and the other guys can work on the blocking - problem solved  ;D .EE had some slippery fingers also the last few games of the season
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #612 on: December 09, 2023, 08:20:35 AM »
This one hurts. Played in every game this season.

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« Reply #613 on: December 09, 2023, 08:28:06 AM »
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #614 on: December 09, 2023, 08:32:44 AM »
This one hurts. Played in every game this season.


Depth counts never know when your number is going to get called,maybe tOSU could use him,perhaps the 'Skers
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #615 on: December 09, 2023, 08:35:17 AM »
Ball Sack 'Skers,Really?I mean that just shouts journalistic integrity
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