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GopherRock

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« Reply #2072 on: May 05, 2022, 09:17:03 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on May 04, 2022, 11:35:07 PM
I'm not so sure China would go all in with Vlad when financially/politically they've entered a new era sans their Bat fixation.Not sure they'd be willing to flush their best prospects they've had because Vlad feels like playing bully.Risk all that when so many have their fingers on a Nuclear trigger.
The Chinese are bargain hunting. They know that if they're the only ones buying or selling with the rooskies, they can dictate the price and terms.

As for Finland, their application to NATO means that they don't think that a future Russian government will be anything other than tinhorn dictatorship, even when Vlad is dead or incapacitated.
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« Reply #2073 on: May 05, 2022, 09:36:26 AM »
Exactly 847 our michigan coorespondent isn't as dialed in as he wants us to believe.WW1 caused WW2,and WW1 was a continuation of old alliances and hostilities.Our old friends the English get off scott free for the 1st war.Breaking 2 international laws using their Naval Prowess to blockade northern Germany,causing starvation-malnourishment and collapsed trade with neutral countries around them.They also cut the transatlantic telegraph line to the USA so the Kaiser couldn't comminicate directly with Washington,so we recieved John Bull's version of everything and a lot of Bull it was.The white washed proper English version of it.Of course we know that the English Crown whose empire that the sun never set on didn't have ulterior motives right?

  After the war parts of Germany were carved up to France in the west ,Poland in the East and and parts to the Czech Republic in the South.Then for good measure those toffee nosed bastards on their aritocratic estates - who twice tried to subjugate us(USA) gave Germany the bill for the whole thing.They starved the gerries took their land then gave them the bill - in a war Germany didn't start. But since German language sounds like draft horses munching their cud we took the smooth chattering English inbreds side. This is what infuriated the population there,of course the masses couldn't know to the extent that Hitler would go in his depraved imagination but that is another conversation


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« Reply #2074 on: May 05, 2022, 09:46:10 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on May 05, 2022, 09:17:03 AM
The Chinese are bargain hunting. They know that if they're the only ones buying or selling with the rooskies, they can dictate the price and terms.

As for Finland, their application to NATO means that they don't think that a future Russian government will be anything other than tinhorn dictatorship, even when Vlad is dead or incapacitated.
thinking about this more, this is probably true. There's no guarantee who comes after Putin will be any better. He might actually be worse.
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« Reply #2075 on: May 05, 2022, 09:57:00 AM »

A Russian soldier ran up to a nun. Out of breath he asked, "Please, may I hide under your skirt, I'll explain later."

The nun agreed. A moment later two military police ran up and asked, "Sister, have you seen a soldier?"

The nun replied, "He went that way."

After the military police ran off, the soldier crawled out from under her skirt and said, "I can't thank you enough Sister. You see, I don't want to go to Ukraine."

The nun said, "I understand completely."

The soldier added, "I hope I'm not rude, but you have a great pair of legs!"

The nun replied, "If you had looked a little higher, you would've seen a great pair of balls. I don't want to go to Ukraine either."
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2076 on: May 06, 2022, 05:44:14 AM »
May 9 is a big day in Russia, usually, end of the WW 2 thing, some concern Putin will make some large announcement.
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« Reply #2077 on: May 06, 2022, 08:21:53 AM »
I know what I'd like him to announce
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« Reply #2078 on: May 06, 2022, 08:27:55 AM »
That he's dead?
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« Reply #2079 on: May 06, 2022, 09:19:57 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 06, 2022, 05:44:14 AM
May 9 is a big day in Russia, usually, end of the WW 2 thing, some concern Putin will make some large announcement.
would be really nice if he's announcing the end of the war and they've made an agreement with Ukraine to pull out and end the hostilities. one can dream.
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« Reply #2080 on: May 06, 2022, 09:21:11 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 06, 2022, 08:27:55 AM
That he's dead?
Life expectancy for males in Russia is 73, and dude is 70 years old and apparently has cancer and is undergoing surgery to remove tumors or something like that. he's probably not got much longer left. 
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« Reply #2081 on: May 06, 2022, 09:44:54 AM »
Your dream may come true
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2082 on: May 06, 2022, 11:13:14 AM »
Life expectancy at age 70 goes a while longer than life expectancy at birth when looking at average year of demise.

At birth, it might be 73, but obviously for a 75 year old it's more like 80.  It's always a positive figure even if you're 110.
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« Reply #2083 on: May 06, 2022, 11:23:49 AM »
that's not what anyone wants to hear!
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« Reply #2084 on: May 07, 2022, 12:11:24 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 06, 2022, 11:23:49 AM
that's not what anyone wants to hear!
I think the world would be A OK without Vladimir Putin in it.

I do wonder/fear if what comes after him is worse. There's no guarantee that whoever rules Russia after him will be better. Next man up could actually be worse. Fingers crossed it's someone less crazy.
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« Reply #2085 on: May 08, 2022, 09:48:01 AM »
disagree with him on quite a bit, but Ryan Grim over at The Intercept is one of the few actual reporters we still have left in the US. Leaks from Ukraine press that "the West" (aka the US, it's lapdog the UK, and it's little gun club NATO) isn't willing to accept a peace deal even if Ukraine wants one. 

US in a full out proxy war with Russia and essentially using Ukraine to "bleed 'em dry!".


https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1523059972749561856?s=20&t=XY752wv6-Q3FUszG5VGIGQ 


https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1523047697451786240?s=20&t=XY752wv6-Q3FUszG5VGIGQ
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