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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2100 on: May 09, 2022, 06:04:40 PM »

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« Reply #2101 on: May 09, 2022, 06:23:49 PM »
it really doesn't even pass through that building
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2102 on: May 10, 2022, 07:52:10 AM »
Ukraine's official accounts showing the striking of a second Russian vessel. Looks like it was hit with a missile from a drone, both of which certainly provided through foreign aid.


https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1522897994701549573

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2103 on: May 10, 2022, 07:55:51 AM »
Ukraine does have its own anti-ship missiles developed off a Russian version.

R-360 Neptune (Ukrainian: Р-360 «Нептун», romanizedR-360 "Neptun") is a Ukrainian anti-ship cruise missile developed by the Luch Design Bureau.
Neptune's design is based on the Soviet Kh-35 anti-ship missile, with substantially improved range and electronics.[2] The system requirement was for a single missile to defeat surface warships and transport vessels with a displacement of up to 5,000 tons, either in convoys or moving individually.
The system entered service with the Ukrainian Navy in March 2021.[3]



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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2105 on: May 11, 2022, 02:43:03 PM »
Live updates: Latest news on Russia and the war in Ukraine (cnbc.com)

UK signs security agreement with Sweden.  The other report is that Ukraine appears to be pushing Russian forces back around Kharkiv (maybe).  Ukraine just might be able to force Russia back some, unless Russia really is "repositioning".


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« Reply #2106 on: May 11, 2022, 09:26:40 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/1523951325226192899
Ukraine has changed it's war aims or has it's colonial master changed it for them? I'm guessing it's the latter.
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« Reply #2107 on: May 11, 2022, 09:29:11 PM »
Nobody can block an agreement that doesn't exist.
who said anyone is blocking an agreement? there can't be an agreement until there is negotiations. pretty clear DC has been against negotiation of any kind since before the war started. that's just par for the course....because....


What We Say Goes


we make peace with our enemies....not our friends....time to make peace...before this thing spills over into a f**king world war and we all die.
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« Reply #2108 on: May 11, 2022, 09:41:01 PM »

it's absolutely sickening and disgusting to be completely frank with you.

Biden admin was asking for an additional $33 billion, so what does Pelosi and the House do? They approve a $40 billion package- $7 billion more than Biden was even asking for- and not a single Dem voted NO- not even the phony "squad" - and of course the Senate will surely agree to this package and approve it in record time. This all happened days after Congress approved and then Biden revived a WWII era "lend-lease" weapons transfer program to "lend" weapons to Ukraine.

US has already sent $14 billion aid package to Ukraine since March. Over 60% of this new $40 billion will be used on military spending/weapons. Essentially just a welfare handout for Raytheon & Friends. Pelosi has the nerve to say bullsh*t in a speech on the floor about feeding people and spouts some Matthews proverbs bullshit- framing it like this package is going for mostly food support- which is a joke. It's not. Very small part of this package is going to help with food supplies. Vast majority is going to WAR and the other largest chunk is going to pay pensions and govt salaries OF ANOTHER COUNTRY- which just also happens to be one of the most corrupt govts on planet earth. There is ZERO percent chance a chunk of this "aid" money isn't getting stolen. Zero.

This funding runs out end of fiscal year- which means come Oct., Biden admin will come running back with their hands out- and they'll get more. March to Sept of this year alone- US will have given $54 billion in aid- most of it military spending. Russia spends about $65 billion for an entire year on defense. The money that the US will give them before this year is over will far exceed that.

Food and supply shortages- half the country here can't even get food for their babies- like we're a 3rd world f***king country- and the govt is doing nothing about it- but hey let's just invent a new $40 billion to add to the $14 billion we already gave another country. It's a joke. That 2Pac lyric is SO true. When it rains and pours, they got money for wars, but can't feed the poor.

Always reminded of this video of Julian Assange....


https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1427929346262642688?s=20&t=fSBmJB-5ioKOAdQuQKi--g
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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2109 on: May 11, 2022, 09:46:37 PM »
Ukraine's official accounts showing the striking of a second Russian vessel. Looks like it was hit with a missile from a drone, both of which certainly provided through foreign aid.


https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1522897994701549573
100% provided by foreign aid. And reports in NY Times and Washington Post has leaked from military and intelligence officers that the US has been directly involved in a lot of these strikes on Russia. US has been far more deeply involved in this war than we were/are being lead to believe.

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2110 on: May 11, 2022, 10:06:48 PM »
I'm trying to imagine the negotiators meeting and somehow coming to an agreement, only to find the US has said "Nope".

I'm failing at that.  There is no agreement, they aren't even close to one.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1524516139434401794?s=20&t=fSBmJB-5ioKOAdQuQKi--g

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2111 on: May 11, 2022, 10:09:19 PM »
all it's really been about in US eyes since day one...bleed Russia dry and regime change....


https://twitter.com/ShantMM/status/1524464282808643584?s=20&t=kBR-BSBKfDVzHMOGFdul4w

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Re: The Ukraine Topic
« Reply #2113 on: May 12, 2022, 03:40:31 AM »
who said anyone is blocking an agreement? there can't be an agreement until there is negotiations. pretty clear DC has been against negotiation of any kind since before the war started. that's just par for the course....because....
Are you claiming there have been no negotiations because the US has blocked even holding them?


 

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