header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

 (Read 517277 times)

longhorn320

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 9294
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4172 on: February 15, 2021, 10:46:54 AM »
yo Texas.  Welcome to winter.  We have this here from December 1st to March 15th.  Most times longer.
why I dont live there
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17620
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4173 on: February 15, 2021, 10:54:07 AM »
why I dont live there
Exactly.


I believe I've said before, even Austin is too cold for me.  This is just proving that out...

MrNubbz

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 17099
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4174 on: February 15, 2021, 10:59:55 AM »

I'd much rather have my lakes freeze than dry up
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17620
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4175 on: February 15, 2021, 11:04:01 AM »
I'd much rather have my lakes freeze than dry up
Isn't it great that this is a free country and we get to make these decisions for ourselves?

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71156
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4176 on: February 15, 2021, 11:11:15 AM »
I'd much rather have my lakes freeze than dry up
Maybe we need more dams in this country, a lot more ....

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37390
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4177 on: February 15, 2021, 11:14:10 AM »
I'd be in favor of that too.

Nuclear. Duh.
Never fear, Bill Gates is working on new nuclear

https://www.terrapower.com/people/bill-gates/
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

MrNubbz

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 17099
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4178 on: February 15, 2021, 11:38:16 AM »
Maybe we need more dams in this country, a lot more ....
Uh boy now you went and did it
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

MarqHusker

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 5498
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4179 on: February 15, 2021, 12:31:51 PM »
Nah, trolling Badge w dam talk is so 2020, hes at the pool don't ya know?

MrNubbz

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 17099
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4180 on: February 15, 2021, 01:02:56 PM »
Some body better roll him over so he's not done too much on one side
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71156
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4181 on: February 15, 2021, 01:19:42 PM »
Here is my guess in broad strokes for PROPORSED CC legislation ( I don't think this would pass the Senate):

A requirement to reach X % "renewable" by 2035 (long enough out to be nonsense)
Money for poor people to insulate their homes
End to subsidies for fossil fuels (if anyone can find them at least)
Regulations on refineries (methane release etc.)
Tax credit for wealthy people to install solar and buy an EV
Maybe a carbon tax, phased in, maybe to start in 2028 or so.
Some other drivel

We had something similar about cellulosic ethanol, by now, gasoline was to be 15% ethanol coming from cellulose.  "We" just pretend we never meant it, really.  We KNEW at the time, technically, this was all tripe and hype.  I was peripherally involved and the science was not there for real production, we KNEW this, it wasn't at issue.

Cellulosic Ethanol Falling Far Short Of The Hype (forbes.com)

The bottom line is that cellulosic ethanol has fallen far short of the hype and the expectations. Production that has been achieved to date has come about as a result of loan guarantees -- many of which the taxpayer will have to foot when the plants go bankrupt. Production has also been the result of generous financial compensation for every gallon that was produced.
Thus, it is true that production is now growing exponentially. But what has yet to be demonstrated is that this is a viable avenue for fuel production without both plant construction and production being heavily subsidized.
It is possible to subsidize all sorts of uneconomical schemes into existence. I would argue that's what has happened here. Cellulosic ethanol today is largely in the same shape as cellulosic ethanol production 100 years ago. Despite some incremental improvements in production, it is still uneconomic to produce and isn't competitive with conventional ethanol production or fossil fuels. This is an experiment that is likely to end with billions of tax dollars have been wasted.



FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37390
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4182 on: February 15, 2021, 02:22:21 PM »
DES MOINES -- Gov. Kim Reynolds is proposing Iowa’s very own ethanol mandate.

The proposal has drawn unusual lines in the lobbying sand, with renewable fuels groups pitted against gas stations and at least one conservative, free market-minded advocacy organization.

Reynolds’ proposal, which she introduced in legislation on Monday, is similar in spirit to the federal ethanol mandate, which requires a certain number of gallons of corn-based ethanol be blended into the nation’s fuel supply. Reynolds’ proposal would require all gasoline sold in Iowa to contain at least 10% ethanol, with an option for the governor to raise that to 15% in four years.

The proposal also shifts existing tax credits for ethanol and other biofuels to only those with blends higher than the new baseline. That move is expected to reduce state spending, and some of those savings would be dedicated to a fund that retailers could access to help pay for equipment upgrades they would need to accommodate the new, higher-blend ethanol fuels.


https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/reynolds-proposes-state-ethanol-mandate-drawing-unusual-political-battle-lines/article_04dd35b6-ff9f-51be-b619-1c8b8fe1e888.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Sioux_City_Journal&fbclid=IwAR3dJb3gahmcZDc8fJFpWOmV9NtIfl_iGHBddwWsJznJb6A_qyqH-D_cryQ

Reynolds’ proposed legislation would:

• require all gasoline in the state to include 10% ethanol, with exceptions for one pump per retailer for ethanol-free gasoline. In 2025, the governor would have the option to bump the baseline requirement to 15% ethanol.

• require all diesel fuel in the state to contain 5% biodiesel fuel from October through March and 11% from April through September. In 2024, the April through September blend requirement would increase to 20%.

• shift existing tax credits to only blends above the new minimum standards.

• require any new equipment installed in the state to be compliant with 15% ethanol or 20% biodiesel usage.
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25044
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4183 on: February 15, 2021, 04:28:51 PM »
I haven't read the full stories, but it sounds like some of the trouble with the power grid thing, from Texas to ND, is related to the wind power. The turbines are frozen and not operational.

I hope our resident Texans are OK.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71156
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37390
  • Liked:
Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4185 on: February 15, 2021, 04:52:31 PM »
semms odd, Cincy keeps telling me wind power is less than 10%.  I'd guess not all turbines are frozen.  So, maybe 3 or 4% of the power would cause the grid to collapse?
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.