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Riffraft

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4018 on: February 04, 2021, 01:08:51 PM »
A US patent today, FYI, expires twenty years after date of filing.  The rule changed some time back from 17 years from date of issue to 20 from date of filing.

Once expired, the technology is open for use by anyone.  And you're "supposed" to reveal everything you know about the invention to enable someone else to practice it.
I would have to do some research, but too lazy right now.  I seem to remember reading an article in some business journal that stated the patent expired in 1979.  I would assume at this point that Dupont did some modification to extend their patent(s) to get to 1979.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4019 on: February 04, 2021, 01:30:19 PM »
connect the DOTS, do the MATH and smell the COFFEE » CFC (dotsmathcoffee.com)

Monocyclic halogenated hydrocarbons with a five-membered ring

Indeed, they did have a patent scheduled to expire in 1983.  This of course is not the standard Freon of any commercial ilk used at the time.  It's a process patent and relates to a CFC with a cyclic member.  I'd imagine duPont has hundreds of related patents.

THE PROCESS FOR FLUORINATING HALOHYDROCARBONS WHICH COMPRISES CONTACTING A VAPOR MIXTURE OF A HALOGENATED ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBON OF 1 TO 8 CARBON ATOMS IN WHICH ADJACENT CARBONS ARE LINKED SOLELY BY 1 TO 2 VAENCE BONDS AND IN WHICH THE HALOGEN ATOMS HAVE AN ATOMIC WEIGHT OF LESS THAN 80 AND INCLUDE AT LEAST ONE HALOGEN ATOM HAVING AN ATOMIC WEIGHT BETWEEN 35 AND 80 AND AT LEAST A STOICHIOMETRIC PROPROTION OF ANHYDROUS HYDROGEN FLUORIDE WITH A CATALYST WHICH CONSISTS ESSENTIALLY OF AN ACTIVATED ANHYDROUS CHROMIUM (111) OXIDE AT A TEMPERATURE IN THE RANGE OF FROM ABOUT 150*C. TO ABOUT 700*C. SUCH THAT THE PRINCIPAL REACTION IS THE SUBSTITUTION OF FLUORINE FOR OTHER HALOGEN OF THE HALOGENATED HYDROCARBON, SEPARATING THE FLUORINATED COMPOUND FROM THE REACTION MIXTURE.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4020 on: February 05, 2021, 01:24:10 PM »
Earth heats up due to pandemic’s cleaner air, study finds

https://fox8.com/news/earth-heats-up-due-to-pandemics-cleaner-air-study-finds/

The study states:

“The COVID-19 pandemic changed emissions of gases and particulates. These gases and particulates affect climate. In general, human emissions of particles cool the planet by scattering away sunlight in the clear sky and by making clouds brighter to reflect sunlight away from the earth. This paper focuses on understanding how changes to emissions of particulates (aerosols) affect climate. We use estimates of emissions changes for 2020 in two climate models to simulate the impacts of the COVID-19 induced emission changes. We tightly constrain the models by forcing the winds to match observed winds for 2020. COVID-19 induced lockdowns led to reductions in aerosol and precursor emissions, chiefly soot or black carbon and sulfate (SO4). This is found to reduce the human caused aerosol cooling: creating a small net warming effect on the earth in spring 2020. Changes in cloud properties are smaller than observed changes during 2020. The impact of these changes on regional land surface temperature is small (maximum +0.3K). The impact of aerosol changes on global surface temperature is very small and lasts over several years. However, the aerosol changes are the largest contribution to COVID-19 affected emissions induced radiative forcing and temperature changes, larger than ozone, CO2 and contrail effects.”
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4021 on: February 05, 2021, 02:15:09 PM »
So the smog actually protects the earth from the evil sun?

Kinda like back in the Dark Ages, when a good thick layer of crusty dirt on your skin, was thought to protect you from illness?



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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4022 on: February 05, 2021, 02:24:18 PM »
So the smog actually protects the earth from the evil sun?

Kinda like back in the Dark Ages, when a good thick layer of crusty dirt on your skin, was thought to protect you from illness?



great smog both increases and decreases global warming

I understand perfectly
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4023 on: February 05, 2021, 03:32:36 PM »
Earth heats up due to pandemic’s cleaner air, study finds

https://fox8.com/news/earth-heats-up-due-to-pandemics-cleaner-air-study-finds/

The study states:
They're full of shit this has been a steady cold winter around the Great Lakes.Some yahoo hangs a thermometer in a bush next to a dryer vent and posts Ka-Ka hoping for clicks
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4024 on: February 05, 2021, 03:37:57 PM »
Kinda like back in the Dark Ages, when a good thick layer of crusty dirt on your skin, was thought to protect you from illness?
Wimanz pay good coin for mud packs
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4025 on: February 05, 2021, 03:44:44 PM »
great smog both increases and decreases global warming

I understand perfectly
so, why wasn't the earth warmer 100 years ago, before the 2nd industrial revolution?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4026 on: February 05, 2021, 03:49:13 PM »
The cause, and scope, of the Little Ice Age remains a mystery.  Some suggest the sun went into a period of reduced activity.

Some claim it only happened in the northern hemisphere.  Some claim it was due to a volcanic eruption (for 300 years?).


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4027 on: February 05, 2021, 03:53:10 PM »
well, no one knows what caused it, but I'm sure there are many articles that proclaim scientific evidence and push it as fact
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4028 on: February 05, 2021, 04:50:08 PM »
so, why wasn't the earth warmer 100 years ago, before the 2nd industrial revolution?
How much of human activity centered around burning wood in those days? For heat, for cooking, etc? Burning logs creates plenty of particulate matter. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4029 on: February 05, 2021, 04:55:04 PM »
seems to me that you folks in California have been burning too much wood lately
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4030 on: February 05, 2021, 05:04:49 PM »
seems to me that you folks in California have been burning too much weed lately
There, fixed that for you.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4031 on: February 05, 2021, 05:23:49 PM »
So, China should be really cold.

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