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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3990 on: February 02, 2021, 09:51:10 AM »
Here are the top ten most common residential appliances listed in order of energy consumption:
  • Central Air Conditioner (2 ton): 1450 kWh/month
  • Water Heater (4-person household): 310/kWh/month
  • Refrigerator (17-20 cubic foot): 205 kWh/month
  • Dryer: 75 kWh/month
  • Oven Range: 58 kWh/month
  • Lighting 4-5 room household: 50 kWh/month
  • Dishwasher: 30 kWh/month
  • Television: 27 kWh/month
  • Microwave: 16 kWh/month
  • Washing Machine: 9 kWh/month

Use of electricity - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3991 on: February 02, 2021, 09:58:47 AM »
I'd think the washing machine would use a lot more as I just put in an xtra lg load.Cindy does a lot more laundry than I.I would think that  from spinning a tub with water and wet clothes and then the the spin cycle to boot that would draw some current
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3992 on: February 02, 2021, 10:08:50 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 02, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
Here are the top ten most common residential appliances listed in order of energy consumption:
  • Central Air Conditioner (2 ton): 1450 kWh/month
  • Water Heater (4-person household): 310/kWh/month
  • Refrigerator (17-20 cubic foot): 205 kWh/month
  • Dryer: 75 kWh/month
  • Oven Range: 58 kWh/month
  • Lighting 4-5 room household: 50 kWh/month
  • Dishwasher: 30 kWh/month
  • Television: 27 kWh/month
  • Microwave: 16 kWh/month
  • Washing Machine: 9 kWh/month

Use of electricity - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

so, it's those folks living down south running the A/C year around ruining the planet?

wash your cloths and hang them on a line to dry.  Seems we should have a federal law banning clothes dryers.  Green new deal
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3993 on: February 02, 2021, 10:10:11 AM »
curious as to where the electric car would land on that list if considered a residential appliance
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3994 on: February 02, 2021, 10:12:26 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 02, 2021, 06:20:32 AM
There is pretty convincing evidence, to me, that Freon caused damage to the ozone layer
A few years back I brought this up to the HVAC Tech who also taught at a local trade school.We were discussing the type of freon used in my Bryant heat pump that he was servicing.He believed the opposite and according to him so did many of the other techs based on some semi convincing data he had.Of course that could be bombast he absorbed from industry chiefs protecting their lively hood
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3995 on: February 02, 2021, 10:14:19 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 02, 2021, 10:10:11 AM
curious as to where the electric car would land on that list if considered a residential appliance
My investment in the local Electric Company may finally pan out after 20 + yrs
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3996 on: February 02, 2021, 10:15:56 AM »
I wouldn't be persuaded by a HVAC tech when it comes to a chemistry question.

I imagine somebody somewhere has concocted charts or some argument to the contrary, but the chemistry, to me, looks sounds, as does the scientific evidence.

I think the current types of coolant are a bit less efficient and more expensive, but the pain has been fairly modest it seems to me.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3997 on: February 02, 2021, 10:20:53 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 02, 2021, 10:08:50 AM
so, it's those folks living down south running the A/C year around ruining the planet?

wash your cloths and hang them on a line to dry.  Seems we should have a federal law banning clothes dryers.  Green new deal
Ha until 2018 I did just that weather permitting.However after having all new facia/soffiting/siding/gutters.I wasn't drilling thru any of that which might weaken where eye hooks were mounted
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3998 on: February 02, 2021, 10:22:25 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 02, 2021, 10:10:11 AM
curious as to where the electric car would land on that list if considered a residential appliance
An EV is going to need around 50 KWh per day, depending on battery size and how much you drive it of course, maybe 1,000 KWh per month. If you drove it say 40 miles per day, the demand would of course be much less.




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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3999 on: February 02, 2021, 10:24:54 AM »
Well we had another 2"-3" last nite,very light and powdery unlike the 2 massive gobs that were dropped in December.Been seasonably cold maybe even below average but below sno fall expectations also - so far.

Welp time for breakfast and shovel the drive.Incedibly bright with the sun popping out of course colder than a well diggers destination
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4000 on: February 02, 2021, 10:26:03 AM »
Chilly and windy here, zero snow so far, though  someone saw brief flurries in December (not me).

36°F and sunny, very windy though.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4001 on: February 02, 2021, 10:34:46 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 02, 2021, 10:08:50 AM
so, it's those folks living down south running the A/C year around ruining the planet?

wash your cloths and hang them on a line to dry.  Seems we should have a federal law banning clothes dryers.  Green new deal
actually here in Houston I have not run the air since late October



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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4002 on: February 02, 2021, 10:39:21 AM »


So, we need about 28 KWh to drive a small vehicle 100 miles, today.  That would require 1,000 or so KWh per month (roughly) driving over 3,000 miles a month.  A more typical drive would be 700 miles per month with an EV I suspect.  It's clear that ONE EV is going to bump your electricity needs.

I'm paying about six cents per KWh here.  That's less than $2 to drive a hundred miles for me.  And no oil changes, no brake pads (probably), some battery deterioration over the years though.

My GTI needs about 3 gallons of premium per hundred miles at $2.15 per, call it $6.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #4003 on: February 02, 2021, 10:41:39 AM »
IMO they seem to be a long way off navigating some of these winters.But for the sake of my Electric stock I hope not
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