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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3388 on: August 21, 2020, 12:02:40 PM »
What plausibly could be our energy mix by 2030, 2035, 2040, and beyond?  Any thoughts?  

If we indeed shift cars to EVs significantly, that adds to the demand on the grid, at night.  That reduces, or shifts the petrol CO2 generation to something else, so we not only would need to replace coal but also come up with roughly 150% of current nuclear capacity, or roughly 350% of current wind capacity, at best.  And that is to break even.

Replacing coal, a nice base load power source, AND generating new capacity for EVs ....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3389 on: August 21, 2020, 12:06:04 PM »
Sounds like someone needs to give a speech. Or something.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3390 on: August 21, 2020, 12:09:16 PM »
Ill happily sign a petition
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3391 on: August 21, 2020, 12:15:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2020, 12:06:04 PM
Sounds like someone needs to give a speech. Or something.
Hold an international conference in Tahiti to discuss the issue and sign some agreements and give speeches as well.
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« Reply #3392 on: August 21, 2020, 12:16:39 PM »
let's wait until February, I'll attend.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3393 on: August 21, 2020, 12:18:04 PM »
I used to drink tea with my buddy at work daily.  We'd have lunch in his office and drink hot tea and discuss the world.  We got into it fairly deeply, and on occasion this other guy would drop by who was very environmentally concerned, they both were.

I delved into the issue as best I could and generated some charts somewhat like what I've shown here, this was circa 2010.

The younger fellow's response was "We have to TRY".  OK, let's TRY.  My buddy's response was to say "That's why they call you Dr. Doom around here."  
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3394 on: August 21, 2020, 12:26:50 PM »
I think we finally got our first big monsoon storm here in Phoenix.  There was a terrible windstorm (or sandstorm) Monday night, but this time we had that and a deluge of rain.  

I honestly can't remember the last time it rained here.  It had been months.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3395 on: August 21, 2020, 12:47:50 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 21, 2020, 12:15:20 PM
Hold an international conference in Tahiti to discuss the issue and sign some agreements and give speeches as well.
So long as nobody flies to Tahiti, I'm good with that.
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« Reply #3396 on: August 21, 2020, 01:04:10 PM »
get PJ Fleck and his team to row the boats!
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« Reply #3397 on: August 21, 2020, 01:07:30 PM »
Screw that. He gives off enough wind to fill up many sails.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3398 on: August 21, 2020, 05:58:38 PM »
https://www.livescience.com/greenland-melt-point-of-no-return.html?utm_source=notification&fbclid=IwAR0XdQQmVQB7AWGvC52vz4bUwqjPYaFyqDwFucfKMgGezUJS1An1PMkvz0E

The Greenland Ice Sheet has reached a point of rapid retreat that it couldn't recover from even if global temperatures stopped rising instantly. 

This Arctic ice sheet is the second-largest ice sheet in the world, after the one that blankets Antarctica. It covers the majority of Greenland and melts into the seas via outlet glaciers, which have been rapidly losing ice for decades. Now, new research finds that today's glacial ice loss is 14% greater than it was between 1985 and 1999. The ice sheet is losing approximately 500 gigatons of ice each year, more than is replenished by annual snowfall. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3399 on: August 21, 2020, 06:41:21 PM »
Greenland would be an awesome place to live. 

If only there were a way to warm it up by a few degrees Celsius....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3400 on: August 21, 2020, 09:18:32 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 21, 2020, 05:58:38 PM
https://www.livescience.com/greenland-melt-point-of-no-return.html?utm_source=notification&fbclid=IwAR0XdQQmVQB7AWGvC52vz4bUwqjPYaFyqDwFucfKMgGezUJS1An1PMkvz0E

The Greenland Ice Sheet has reached a point of rapid retreat that it couldn't recover from even if global temperatures stopped rising instantly.

This Arctic ice sheet is the second-largest ice sheet in the world, after the one that blankets Antarctica. It covers the majority of Greenland and melts into the seas via outlet glaciers, which have been rapidly losing ice for decades. Now, new research finds that today's glacial ice loss is 14% greater than it was between 1985 and 1999. The ice sheet is losing approximately 500 gigatons of ice each year, more than is replenished by annual snowfall.
Point of no return?  It will return if temps get low enough.  Which they eventually will.  Whether there is life as we know it on Earth when that happens is unknowable.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3401 on: August 21, 2020, 09:20:31 PM »
As if there weren’t enough to think about these days, now there is talk of an asteroid supposedly heading directly for Earth.

The truth of the matter is, there is an asteroid, and it is headed in our general direction, but maybe not right at us. Still, that’s not stopping some from creating concern.


A flying space object known as 2018 VP1 is hurtling through our solar system right now, and it’s due to be in our vicinity in early November. An internet video and a few stories have created a bit of buzz for those who look for this type of information.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/features/2020/08/21/an-asteroid-is-on-possible-collision-course-with-earth-this-november-should-we-be-worried/
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