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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3178 on: July 29, 2020, 02:30:21 PM »
Of course, a carbon tax is regressive, something akin to FICA.  The wealthy don't use that much more fossil fuel than a poor working man with his beat up F150.  And of course if a plane ticket goes up 10%, the wealthy don't notice.  I wouldn't notice either really.  The guy out there fixing my plumbing probably would notice.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3179 on: July 29, 2020, 02:31:54 PM »
You seeing a urologist?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3180 on: July 29, 2020, 02:32:14 PM »
regardless of cost.......... could this be accomplished?

world governments can print money
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3181 on: July 29, 2020, 02:38:13 PM »
I think we could put a serious dent in CO2 production in ten years IFF we resorted to nuclear fission extensively, a crash program.  Of course, that can't be done in Europe nor Japan and is hypothetical in the US.  If WE really believed this was a SERIOUS issue, we'd be using this option, but we can't.

And of course, that "serious dent" would be US only, the rest of the world would at best stay even with today's levels.  Even reaching the Paris targets is dubious, except for China and India, who have no targets by 2030 of course.

So, the US should throw money at this with no plan and no idea of the projected benefit?  Count me out.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3182 on: July 29, 2020, 04:13:41 PM »
and a nuclear plant in my neighborhood
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3183 on: July 29, 2020, 04:15:49 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 29, 2020, 04:13:41 PM
and a nuclear plant in my neighborhood
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3184 on: July 29, 2020, 04:22:39 PM »
there's a plant in Ft. Calhoun, NE that is about 70 miles from my house.

was shutdown in Oct of 2016
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3185 on: July 29, 2020, 04:35:47 PM »
Too many drunks in carts piling up around the fence line
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3186 on: July 29, 2020, 04:36:53 PM »
Two more power reactors are slated to come on line about 100 miles east of me in a year or so.  Maybe.  I hear there were delays.

And cost overruns.

I was shocked.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3187 on: July 30, 2020, 03:05:35 PM »
Utility-scale solar power is coming to Montana’s Big Sky Country, and the energy produced will help meet the needs of electric cooperative consumer-members.

Basin Electric Power Cooperative and Clēnera Renewable Energy have signed a power purchase agreement for the Cabin Creek Solar Project, which will consist of two 75-MW projects in southeastern Montana. According to Clēnera, the project will eliminate 265,000 tons of carbon dioxide per year and power 30,000 homes.

“Adding solar further promotes our all-of-the-above energy solution as we generate energy using a diverse resource portfolio including coal, natural gas, and other renewable resources,” said Paul Sukut, Basin Electric’s CEO and general manager.

The Cabin Creek Solar Project will be Basin Electric’s second contracted utility-scale solar project.

“Cost-competitive energy like the Cabin Creek Solar Project will be part of the energy mix we purchase from Basin Electric for our member systems,” said Claire Vigesaa, general manager of Upper Missouri Power Cooperative. The Sidney, Montana-based generation and transmission cooperative is one of 10 G&T members of Basin Electric.

The two new solar arrays will be built on 1,100 acres five miles west of Baker, Montana, in the service territory of Ekalaka-based Southeast Electric Cooperative.

Under the terms of the 15-year contract, both arrays are expected to be completed by 2023. Developers worked with Basin Electric and the local co-op to coordinate siting and transmission needs. 

https://www.electric.coop/montana-basin-electric-buys-solar-power-for-co-op-members/?PostID=17049460&utm_medium=email&utm_source=rasa_io
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3188 on: July 30, 2020, 03:23:43 PM »
I'd like to see nuclear and I'd like to see an end to fracking.

Also need to remove all the dams and levees.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3189 on: July 30, 2020, 03:26:12 PM »
some dams generate green electricity

no carbon
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3190 on: July 30, 2020, 03:53:32 PM »
Large dams do generate electricity without carbon, but there is ecological damage associated with most dams, and I don't think any more would be built in the US (nor will existing ones be removed other than some smaller dams).
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #3191 on: July 30, 2020, 04:03:16 PM »
I'd guess the ecological damage from dams won't cause the end of human existence on earth as quickly as global climate change due to carbon

well, many experts have led me to believe this
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