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utee94

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #952 on: April 12, 2019, 12:27:08 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #953 on: April 12, 2019, 06:45:33 AM »
I can't sleep on a plane, even in first class.  Maybe with these new fold down seats I could.  But air fare up front is $7000.  No way.

I'll pony for comfort seats but they are getting pricey now.

The good news is that I own a bit of stock in Delta.
We had the sleeper seats on a flight back from Maui a few years back. I didn't sleep.
We do the best seats we can afford, but nothing less than premium economy now. Even though I'm not tall (like you), I like not having a seat 3" in front of my face. I've got a little problem with confined space too, hence the Xanax. That started maybe a few years ago. It's weird.
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« Reply #954 on: April 12, 2019, 07:42:42 AM »
I've had mild claustrophobia since my teen years.  It sucks.

I've also developed a recent aversion to large crowds which is part of what keeps me away from going to more large sporting events and arena concerts.  But it might simply because I hate people, and nothing to do with a true phobia... ;)

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #955 on: April 12, 2019, 07:53:20 AM »
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #956 on: April 12, 2019, 08:11:30 AM »
The wife booked regular seats to Boston and back.  I was at the limit for a two hour flight, knees touching seat in front of me.  They were cheap tickets.  She's used to being upgraded to comfort seats or first, not happening, flight was full.  A321 had movies available which helped.  I watched Apollo 11.

When comfort seats first came out, the price was cheap, but that lasted about a year or so.  I've been in domestic first class obviously and it's just wider seats, not more leg room, and not really anything else better except more bin room.  The BOS trip was pretty cheap as our hosts lent us a car, that Mimi Cooper S (which in no way impressed me).  I bought most of the food we ate and wine.  Our host liked the wine.  I picked up half a case in NH because it was cheaper than in MA, go figure.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #957 on: April 12, 2019, 01:38:05 PM »
I have problems flying coach at 6'5" 260#+, but don't have alternatives. Every time my knees are in touching seat in front of me. Not pleasant, but I do it anyway.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #958 on: April 12, 2019, 01:44:25 PM »
I can't sleep on a plane, even in first class.  Maybe with these new fold down seats I could.  But air fare up front is $7000.  No way.

I'll pony for comfort seats but they are getting pricey now.

The good news is that I own a bit of stock in Delta.
$7,000 is kinda the starting price on flights for those pod seats that fold into beds. Sometimes they can be like $9,000 or more. If you were buying multiple tickets, at that price point it'd almost make more sense to charter a private jet. I suspect that most people booking those seats with Delta are using Amex points and SkyMiles to bring the cost of those seats way down. Regardless, that sort of pricing is insane. There are airlines that have even crazier pricing. I think it's either Singapore or Emirates airline maybe that sells like almost a little cabin to yourself- and I emphasize the word little- for something ridiculous like $25,000. I just can't imagine people booking those that often. Let's say a man and his wife and their two kids are buying that ticket. If that guy has $100k to spend on a few tickets to fly one time, he's probably got enough dough to own or charter a private jet.
Airline stocks used to be horrible because of all the competition kept pricing down and ate into profitability. Like most everything else in this country, everything has been consolidated and oligopolized. There were 15-20 major airlines in the US. Now there are 4- Delta, Southwest, United, and American- and those 4 have 80+% of the entire US market share. Now their pricing is all essentially the same and they offer basically all the same services and their ability to control the market and protect profitability is there- and now they are great stocks to own.

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« Reply #959 on: April 12, 2019, 02:55:59 PM »
I've also developed a recent aversion to large crowds which is part of what keeps me away from going to more large sporting events and arena concerts.;)
I've developed a recent aversion to parting with large amounts of cash that keeps me from going to sporting events and arena concerts
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« Reply #960 on: April 12, 2019, 03:22:33 PM »
I've developed a recent aversion to parting with large amounts of cash that keeps me from going to sporting events and arena concerts
Ha. True that. It's insane just how much the costs of attending concerts and sporting events have skyrocketed. They just keep raising the god damn prices of the tickets, concessions, and parking and ask regular people to pay more and more, all the while the BILLIONAIRES who own those teams and those stadiums get sweetheart deals from the govt to use public money in the form of tax breaks, bonds/secured loans, land gifts, etc., etc.. These are some of the richest people in the motherf'ing world- they can self finance or get private lenders to help them build their stadiums- and yet they get stupid gov't officials to give them hand outs.

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« Reply #961 on: April 12, 2019, 04:25:37 PM »
Airline stocks used to be horrible because of all the competition kept pricing down and ate into profitability. Like most everything else in this country, everything has been consolidated and oligopolized. There were 15-20 major airlines in the US. Now there are 4- Delta, Southwest, United, and American- and those 4 have 80+% of the entire US market share. Now their pricing is all essentially the same and they offer basically all the same services and their ability to control the market and protect profitability is there- and now they are great stocks to own.
I think the airlines have gotten a lot smarter about ways to keep planes flying full, too. Instead of offering as many routes and schedules as they used to, they cut back to make sure that an airplane isn't going somewhere with 75% excess capacity. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #962 on: April 12, 2019, 04:36:44 PM »
I think the airlines have gotten a lot smarter about ways to keep planes flying full, too. Instead of offering as many routes and schedules as they used to, they cut back to make sure that an airplane isn't going somewhere with 75% excess capacity.
Yup. This is a major part of it as well. Flights are usually full. In fact they often overbook their flights. There are always horror stories in the news about this. Wasn't it American Airlines not too long ago where the security physically beat the shit out of a man and dragged him off an overbooked plane?

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« Reply #963 on: April 12, 2019, 05:06:29 PM »
Yup. This is a major part of it as well. Flights are usually full. In fact they often overbook their flights. There are always horror stories in the news about this. Wasn't it American Airlines not too long ago where the security physically beat the shit out of a man and dragged him off an overbooked plane?
Yeah, that was United, not American. Around the same time United was getting a lot of flak for dead dogs.

Not great for PR. 

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #964 on: April 12, 2019, 05:11:42 PM »
Flights do seem more full than 20 years ago when I was flying for business.  Our Boston flights were both 100% full.

Delta has four flights a day to Paris from here.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #965 on: April 12, 2019, 05:23:54 PM »
Ha. True that. It's insane just how much the costs of attending concerts and sporting events have skyrocketed. They just keep raising the god damn prices of the tickets, concessions, and parking and ask regular people to pay more and more, all the while the BILLIONAIRES who own those teams and those stadiums get sweetheart deals from the govt to use public money in the form of tax breaks, bonds/secured loans, land gifts, etc., etc.. These are some of the richest people in the motherf'ing world- they can self finance or get private lenders to help them build their stadiums- and yet they get stupid gov't officials to give them hand outs.
I really just wish that collectively the fans would just mail it in.IMO the Federal Gov't should step in on theses stadium deals moving forward - talk about welfare for the rich.Years ago there were some  economist/business types that wrote a book and points out paying for stadiums is really a LOSE.When you factor in the tax breaks and the very few people who actually benefit from having a franchise.It's not the people paying for it.They get rewarded by getting priced right the hell out.After the Browns moved I voted against every public funded facility and they still get pushed thru.I really believe the fix is in with so  much money on the table.Not one guy I talked to EVER wanted to pay more for Beer/whiskey/wine/smokes,etc or voted for either baseball/football stadiums
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