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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #840 on: March 31, 2019, 01:52:13 PM »
a bit political
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #841 on: April 01, 2019, 07:58:23 PM »
The politics in that article are extraneous and just should've been left out.

The other points are all valid and are things I've stated before. It won't be too much longer until natural gas plants peak and are no longer built. They won't retire as fast as coal plants are, but they're already in decline in California and the same will happen elsewhere before long. Energy storage technologies are not only more cost-effective but easier and faster to deploy, because they can be developed pretty much anywhere at any capacity from small residential Tesla Powerwalls like Green Mountain Power in Vermont is doing to Florida Power & Light's recently announced 400+ MW system (it won't be long until 1 GW scale systems are being developed, either).
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #842 on: April 01, 2019, 08:08:01 PM »
Elon Musk to be given credit?? or is he just the media hog?
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #843 on: April 01, 2019, 08:49:00 PM »
Elon Musk to be given credit?? or is he just the media hog?
Musk deserves a lot of credit for expediting the growth of the electric vehicle market. Before Tesla started, none of the major automakers were seriously pursuing it. Now they all are, and they know that EVs (along with autonomous driving) are the future. It's just a matter of when at this point. The EV market has still taken off faster in China and parts of Europe, aside from California, but it won't be too long before they take off in other parts of the US and countries around the world.
Building the gigafactory for batteries in northern Nevada was a smart move not only for his cars, but their energy storage business. The Powerwalls get more hype but the utility-scale projects in Australia and California are much more significant.
His boring company is also pretty forward thinking, but who knows if the hyperloop will ever be developed anywhere. It sounds like his de facto Chicago blue line express between the Loop and OHare is not going to happen, regardless of who is elected their next mayor tomorrow.
That said, he deserves to be criticized for repeatedly overpromising and overhyping everything. Merging Tesla with SolarCity made sense in theory, but it hasn't worked out well. Other solar companies (particularly Sunrun) took their market share and even these high-end solar roofs with solar shingles that just look like regular roofs haven't taken off nor will they ever be cost-competitive with regular roof-top solar installations.
If he gets in any more legal trouble, though, he might be best off selling the business, which might happen, anyway. As it is, SpaceX seems to be is biggest interest.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #844 on: April 01, 2019, 09:00:46 PM »

Building the gigafactory for batteries in northern Nevada was a smart move not only for his cars, but their energy storage business. The Powerwalls get more hype but the utility-scale projects in Australia and California are much more significant.
I'm not interested in an electric vehicle at this point, but the battery development is encouraging.
Nearly everything in my network runs on -48 volts DC.  Battery technology advancement can really enhance wind and solar power.
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #845 on: April 01, 2019, 11:16:39 PM »
Musk.. Yep, he is brilliant, BUT!!!




My best pal bought one of his cars. Model S. Very nice. Needs to be charged every day in the winter - range is 120 miles when it's cold. Electric bill is WAY up. Shockingly up.




So far, buyer remorse. I imagine in the long term, he will be happy. It's a great car. Super fast, off the line, but I caught him in my Benz after 85 MPH. Maybe less??
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #846 on: April 01, 2019, 11:35:48 PM »
85 MPH??!?!?!?
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« Reply #847 on: April 01, 2019, 11:43:24 PM »
85 MPH??!?!?!?
I've had her at 120. Illinois tollway, bro. Not sure how fast she can get to. Not gonna try. I'm good.

Mrs. 847 wants a Porsche again. I may allow it.*

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #848 on: April 02, 2019, 12:32:49 AM »
If you're saying that charging his EV is more expensive than an equivalent refill at the gas station (say 4 gallons for 30 mpg vehicle = 120 miles, which is probably ~$10 if gas is $2.50 / gal, which would be lower than usual) that's surprising. I just looked this up so I could be wrong, but supposedly the Model S has a 100 kWh battery capacity, which at $0.10 / kWh (which is more expensive than in most states except AK, HI, CA, NY, and New England) would also cost $10 to charge....... Maintenance costs for EVs should also be lower (no oil changes, fewer parts that could break, etc.).

Unless your friend is an unusual electricity rate structure (most residential customers have simple flat rates, though ComEd is one of the few utilities that offers real-time pricing to residential customers, which should actually help them save money as I did when I lived in Chicago - especially for him if he were charging his vehicle at night.... IL is also deregulated so he could've gotten a bad deal from a retail energy supplier if he signed up with one) I don't understand why that would happen....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #849 on: April 02, 2019, 09:51:31 AM »
I've had her at 120. Illinois tollway, bro. Not sure how fast she can get to. Not gonna try. I'm good.

Mrs. 847 wants a Porsche again. I may allow it.*

* As if I could stop it. Haha. Not. You know her. :)
haha, I wouldn't even think about one negative comment about a Porsche.  It will look great in the driveway, she will look great driving it, and It's only money
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #850 on: April 05, 2019, 04:20:13 PM »
In WW Two, Ferdinand Porsche was one of the major tank designers.  He provided a prototype for the Tiger tank (which was not adopted).  He converted the 78 he had made to the "Ferdinand" (later called "Elephant") tank destroyers used at Kursk and elsewhere.  

They do build some nice cars today.  I used to want a 944 back when I couldn't afford one.  I think a color matched key fob is a $360 option.

The new C8 Corvette will be midengined, which is rather interesting.  Some reports have it at 1,000 hp and they experienced problems with the frame at full thrust.


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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #851 on: April 05, 2019, 06:46:54 PM »
Man, I’m starting to have frame issues at full thrust myself....
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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #852 on: April 05, 2019, 07:49:38 PM »
Yeah, it happens, but not when you're new to the game.

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Re: Weather, Climate, and Environment
« Reply #853 on: April 05, 2019, 08:02:40 PM »


Mrs. 847 wants a Porsche again. I may allow it.*

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