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Cincydawg

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12404 on: October 13, 2025, 09:18:28 AM »
Coal power is ebbing, which I view as a good thing, but a reliable replacement that is economical has to be used, not heavy dependence on variable sources with inadequate backup.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12405 on: October 13, 2025, 09:21:26 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 13, 2025, 09:18:28 AM
Coal power is ebbing, which I view as a good thing, but a reliable replacement that is economical has to be used, not heavy dependence on variable sources with inadequate backup.


What's going on in China and India? Asking for a friend.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12406 on: October 13, 2025, 09:30:30 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2025, 09:21:26 AM
What's going on in China and India? Asking for a friend.
From the linked article...

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Populous developing countries like China and India led the charge in adding more renewable energies, Ember reports. Meanwhile, Western societies including the European Union and the United States met some of their increased electricity demand through the use of fossil fuels during this period.

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Wiatros-Motyka said China has been particularly clever in decreasing its reliance on fossil fuels. She noted that such a shift gives countries more autonomy since they can reduce their dependence on energy imports from other nations.

"There has been more investment in infrastructure that facilitates clean growth [in emerging economies] than in many advanced economies," she said.

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China has been the largest driver in the move to renewable energy sources, accounting for 55% of global solar generation growth. The United States' share, by contrast, was just 14%. Renewables might slow as the Trump administration moves to sharply reduce clean-energy development.

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China and other countries have been able to succeed because they foresaw a rising desire for renewable energy and invested heavily in those alternatives.

"China took technologies that were originally developed in the United States back in Bell Labs in the 1950s and figured out how to scale them up, and just relentlessly year after year make them cheaper and cheaper and slightly better performing each time to the point that the cost of solar panels has fallen by well over 90% and the cheapest solar panels in the world are being manufactured in China," Cohan said.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12407 on: October 13, 2025, 09:33:32 AM »
China appears to be nearing the point of not increasing their CO2 generation further.  India, well, not yet.

In my view, coal is bad on every angle (except cheap power production).  But we can't replace coal with only W&S.  That clearly won't work.  Maybe at some point stored energy solutions become large scale and practicable, maybe.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12408 on: October 13, 2025, 09:48:02 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2025, 09:30:30 AM
From the linked article...
I don't believe that.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12409 on: October 13, 2025, 10:44:22 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2025, 09:48:02 AM
I don't believe that.
Fair enough. It only presents a portion of the picture. Here's the bit they're presenting:




And, of course, the bit they're not:



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12410 on: October 13, 2025, 12:19:46 PM »
The planet has entered a ‘new reality’ as it hits its first climate tipping point, report finds | CNN

As predicted, more hand wringing, and still not realistic plan to do something.  I don't consider throwing money at it a plan at all.

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12411 on: October 13, 2025, 01:06:08 PM »
Some pretty bad flooding on the East coast from that Nor'easter. New Jersey:





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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12412 on: October 13, 2025, 01:20:41 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2025, 01:06:08 PM
Some pretty bad flooding on the East coast from that Nor'easter. New Jersey:







That is where my youngest son is right now.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12413 on: October 13, 2025, 02:42:20 PM »
Is he safe?
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« Reply #12414 on: October 13, 2025, 03:28:55 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2025, 02:42:20 PM
Is he safe?

He better be.  It's what he is training for, and I can't talk to him right now.  He did get a call last Saturday to tell me his 1st duty station will be Ft. Lauderdale. 



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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12415 on: October 13, 2025, 03:30:00 PM »
Nice! I have a ton of respect for the Coast Guard, being an Emeritus Captain.
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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12416 on: October 14, 2025, 10:44:48 AM »
Sad outcome here. @SFBadger96 used to work for Bechtel, I believe. This will be a lawsuit, if it already isn't, but Bechtel has been very transparent in its recently released report.

Port Arthur LNG Incident: What We've Learned - Bechtel
Port Arthur LNG Incident: What We've Learned - Bechtel

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Re: Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy
« Reply #12417 on: October 14, 2025, 11:45:07 AM »
Yeah, I worked at Bechtel, and I know the legal team (in house) that has been dealing with this. It is tragic, and Bechtel takes it very seriously. (That won't stop the lawsuits, but that's the way of the world.) Construction--particularly heavy construction--is a dangerous business. Becthel is a good company, but even within well-run companies, mistakes happen.
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