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847badgerfan

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The Hot Seats
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:35:03 AM »
We can update this one throughout the season, but I think we are now far enough in to start making some calls.

In the B1G, the only obvious hot seat is Mike Riley right now. Lovie might be feeling a little warm at Illinois but I think everyone else is pretty safe.

The SEC has quite a few hot seats though. Missouri, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Tennessee and Ole Miss could all be looking for coaches by the end of the year.

In the PAC-12, UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona State and Arizona could be looking around. 
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 11:58:07 AM »
I think Riley is toast. That AD firing says a lot. President wants to hire a new AD to bring in a new coach. 

Mora, Sumlin, and Butch Jones are finito as well. I think. Mora has the best pure passer in the game right now and he's dropping games to Memphis and a bad Stanford team. Needed a miracle from Rosen to pull out that A&M game. Rosen made a mistake going there. Kid should've followed Harbaugh to Ann Arbor. 

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 02:52:23 PM »
Before y'all fire Sumlin, you might note A&M is magically 3-1.  The bad news is I only see 3 more fairly assured wins.

The UNC fan base is pretty riled up right now also, at least those who post on line anyway.

Hopefully, Butch Jones doesn't get out of jail this weekend.

I thought ND might be looking also, but ND could be a 9-3 kind of team.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 04:16:21 PM »
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.


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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 04:21:37 PM »
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.


I think he's probably safe this year, but he'll enter next year plenty hot.

He benefitted at first by his upperclassmen being some better than average classes that Chryst brought in due to PSU being a recruiting non factor for a couple years.  Now he's recruiting against the best the Penn State program has been in 20 years.  I think he's gone after 2018.  There isn't the local talent to support Pitt against a monster Penn State anymore.  I think they'd be better off bringing in and outsider who can tap into Florida and Texas talent, like WVU has been able to do.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 04:29:02 PM »
Before y'all fire Sumlin, you might note A&M is magically 3-1.  The bad news is I only see 3 more fairly assured wins.

The UNC fan base is pretty riled up right now also, at least those who post on line anyway.

Hopefully, Butch Jones doesn't get out of jail this weekend.

I thought ND might be looking also, but ND could be a 9-3 kind of team.
3-1 is actually a worse start than usual for the Aggies.  Last year they started 6-0 and finished 8-5.  In 2015 they started 5-0 and finished 8-5. In 2014 they started 5-0 and finished 8-5.  A bit of a pattern there.  And as you note, there's not a whole lot of promising looking victories remaining on their schedule this season.
Most Aggies I know are ready to send Sumlin packing, but of course the coaching carousel is always an uncertain place to find yourself.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 04:31:27 PM »
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.


I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 04:33:37 PM »
I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.
I never heard any Pitt fans say that.

I think what they'd like is for Penn State to go back to what they were in 2012 and 2013 on the recruiting trail, with limited scholarships, and unable to sell even a bowl trip to recruits.

The biggest loser when the PSU sanctions went away was Pitt.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 05:53:14 PM »
I never heard any Pitt fans say that.

I think what they'd like is for Penn State to go back to what they were in 2012 and 2013 on the recruiting trail, with limited scholarships, and unable to sell even a bowl trip to recruits.

The biggest loser when the PSU sanctions went away was Pitt.
I never heard it, but they used to come on the Badger boards and write such things. I saw a little of it around here, but not terrible.

All of that turnover in coaches before PC made Pitt a big hot mess.

Pitt needs an on-campus stadium and facilities. Then they could recruit better.
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 06:51:18 PM »
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.
Doubt it. Last year was fun and the schedule is rough as everyone left on it has gotten better. I predicted a 6-6 year but its probably going be 4-8. The defense is somewhat improved but they are giving up points because the offense is so bad. 
He's going to have to work OT to bring in a quality QB transfer or he's going to be in big trouble the next year.  

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 07:26:53 PM »
I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.
Granted there are always people who have unrealistic expectations but Chryst was pretty well liked because he was a really classy coach. He even went on recruiting visits after being interviewed by Wisconsin when the deal was all but sealed. He also stabilized the program. Everyone also knew that he wanted to go back to Wiscy someday and it wasn't like we were losing a 10-2 coach or anything. Did a hell of a job developing the OL which is something Pitt never had. 
Narduzzi also has done some good things. 2017 class is pretty much all redshirted but on paper was decent. He let Canada get weird with the offense when it still would have been very good going vanilla. Found and reclimated Peterman. Plus though the record isn't great he pulled out more than a fair share the of those close games that Pitt always loses (luck or just due, dunno, chryst's teams always seemed to lose them). QB is the biglargehuge problem right now. Plus he's either going to have to find/develop talent on the defensive end or start changing the way Pitt plays D to something more conserative. 

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 10:20:33 PM »
These days, a guy can be fired after 2 bad years.  With Schiano becoming available, I wouldn't be shocked if Rutgers dumps Ash and tries to bring back Greg.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2017, 10:40:23 PM »
You fire the coach, and often whoever is available is no better, if not worse, IMHO.

You need to have your money in hand and your order in mind.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 08:08:53 AM »
These days, a guy can be fired after 2 bad years.  With Schiano becoming available, I wouldn't be shocked if Rutgers dumps Ash and tries to bring back Greg.
It's no longer unheard of for college coaches to get canned after just one season, at least strictly for performance issues.  See Ellis Johnson w/ Southern Miss back in '12.

 

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