Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.I think he's probably safe this year, but he'll enter next year plenty hot.
Before y'all fire Sumlin, you might note A&M is magically 3-1. The bad news is I only see 3 more fairly assured wins.3-1 is actually a worse start than usual for the Aggies. Last year they started 6-0 and finished 8-5. In 2015 they started 5-0 and finished 8-5. In 2014 they started 5-0 and finished 8-5. A bit of a pattern there. And as you note, there's not a whole lot of promising looking victories remaining on their schedule this season.
The UNC fan base is pretty riled up right now also, at least those who post on line anyway.
Hopefully, Butch Jones doesn't get out of jail this weekend.
I thought ND might be looking also, but ND could be a 9-3 kind of team.
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.
I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.I never heard any Pitt fans say that.
I never heard any Pitt fans say that.I never heard it, but they used to come on the Badger boards and write such things. I saw a little of it around here, but not terrible.
I think what they'd like is for Penn State to go back to what they were in 2012 and 2013 on the recruiting trail, with limited scholarships, and unable to sell even a bowl trip to recruits.
The biggest loser when the PSU sanctions went away was Pitt.
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.Doubt it. Last year was fun and the schedule is rough as everyone left on it has gotten better. I predicted a 6-6 year but its probably going be 4-8. The defense is somewhat improved but they are giving up points because the offense is so bad.
I'm thinking all of those Pitt fans who thought Chryst was the problem.. would like to have him back now.Granted there are always people who have unrealistic expectations but Chryst was pretty well liked because he was a really classy coach. He even went on recruiting visits after being interviewed by Wisconsin when the deal was all but sealed. He also stabilized the program. Everyone also knew that he wanted to go back to Wiscy someday and it wasn't like we were losing a 10-2 coach or anything. Did a hell of a job developing the OL which is something Pitt never had.
These days, a guy can be fired after 2 bad years. With Schiano becoming available, I wouldn't be shocked if Rutgers dumps Ash and tries to bring back Greg.It's no longer unheard of for college coaches to get canned after just one season, at least strictly for performance issues. See Ellis Johnson w/ Southern Miss back in '12.
Pat Narduzzi's buns might be getting a bit toasty. Just when you thought Pitt was respectable, they may end up being the ACC's doormat this year.He lost three games to teams that won 11, 10 and 9 games last year, plus got a battle from the FCS runner up. If that's unacceptable in year two after most of the offense leaves, dude would just be screwed.
Not too familiar with the culture out there, but does UCLA have enough boosters who care about football that would pony up?The Bruins boosters willing to fork over that much cash are more concerned with the basketball program and will use it on Steve Alford's buyout/replacement first.
Gruden to Tennessee = Harbaugh to Michigan.Do ya think the Vol fans would be happy with 3rd place division finishes?
The Bruins boosters willing to fork over that much cash are more concerned with the basketball program and will use it on Steve Alford's buyout/replacement first.They'll keep Alford in place until there are no more Balls left to come in and run his team for him.
I don't think the 3rd place division finishes thing would make them happy at all but that is partially because at present their Division is terrible. The worldwide leader had the SEC-E as the #5 slot in the Bottom Ten (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/bottom092617/bottom-10-sec-east-least) this week. In this year's SEC-E simply being competent would get them to at least second place.Do ya think the Vol fans would be happy with 3rd place division finishes?
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Saw Butch Jones attacking the media this week.
That right there tells you he's done.
Tennessee fans have higher expectations for their team than you do, CDawg.
They wanna be what Bama is today. I'm too far removed from the situation to tell whether that is reasonable, or if it's more likely that they will be what Bama was 10 years ago.
The Vols of course are cross division paired with Alabama, which is a tough draw of late.
Their goal should be to compete each year for the division championship and then take a shot at the SEC CG and make a NY6 bowl game every 3-4-5 years or so. Whoever they get better be able to recruit out of state.
Well at the very least, Butch did manage to outlast his replacement at Cincinnati.Bet Cincy wishes they still had him.
Gruden to Tennessee = Harbaugh to Michigan. Yes, it would be an upgrade, and yes they'd probably be one of the 3 best teams in the SEC year-in, year-out, but he ain't going to beat Saban.Saban won't be around a whole lot longer, probably. He is getting older, you never know when he decides to retire. hire Gruden, let him build up the roster, then he's in position when Saban retires and the SEC championship can finally go to another team.
They could hire Bill Belichick, or Vince Lombardi or Bear Bryant's ghosts, and they still can't beat Saban. The guy has an absolute stranglehold on CFB.
I was talking about Tubs. He was a good coach.Gotcha.
Who's the worst coach at each Big Ten school since 1978? (modern era)For UW it's Don Morton, hands down.
Brady Hoke for Michigan.I would have thought RichRod, wo be honest. He tried to turn Michigan into a Big 12 team.
I would have thought RichRod, wo be honest. He tried to turn Michigan into a Big 12 team.The team at least improved under RichRod. Hoke got worse every year, while bringing in better talent
Who's the worst coach at each Big Ten school since 1978? (modern era)For Ohio State this could be an interesting question. Coaches:
The team at least improved under RichRod. Hoke got worse every year, while bringing in better talenthave to agree here. Rodriguez blew the system up and tried to rebuild it and the real reason 3-9 happened is because he just didn't have a QB that first year. Every year his teams improved though. What did him in was his complete lack of a defense.
Iowa has had only 2 head coaches since 1979, Hayden Fry and Kirk Ferentz.Fry was 15-2-1 against Wisconsin. 12-8 against Minnie. 16-4 against ISU.
So I guess the obvious answer for Iowa is the guy who was head coach in 1978, Bob Cummings, who was fired after the 1978 season.
If forced to choose between Fry and Ferentz, Ferentz will always be behind Fry in the hearts of Iowa fans, even though their overall records are similar. Fry is treated pretty much like a god by Iowa fans.
Fry was 15-2-1 against Wisconsin. 12-8 against Minnie. 16-4 against ISU.As I see that:
For Kirk, it's 7-8, 11-6 and 9-9, respectively.
Hoke was a damn clown.This may qualify as legal libel against actual clowns.
For UW it's Don Morton, hands down.His name always makes me think of a local Milwaukee radio talk show host, who always cautions every team and every school, that you should never assume that it can't get any worse, it can, and he always brings up Don Morton. I know Jim Hiles was really a one year interim guy following the death of McClain, but they were heading in a generally downward direction following McClain's final season.
Fry was 15-2-1 against Wisconsin. 12-8 against Minnie. 16-4 against ISU.But for what it is worth
For Kirk, it's 7-8, 11-6 and 9-9, respectively.
Isn't this also an example of fun with end points? (For Fry v Ferentz?)This is what I was thinking.
That's peak Penn State vs Fry and less than peak PSU vs Ferentz.
Michigan may not be peak vs Fry, but they are a helluva lot better than Mich during Ferentz tenure.
Isn't this also an example of fun with end points? (For Fry v Ferentz?)I think it is a little of each. Ferentz' seven wins over Michigan do include some wins over less-than-great Michigan teams but he didn't play Michigan's 3-9 squad and has a few wins over some pretty good Michigan teams as well. Records of Michigan teams that Ferentz' Iowa squads defeated:
That's peak Penn State vs Fry and less than peak PSU vs Ferentz.
Michigan may not be peak vs Fry, but they are a helluva lot better than Mich during Ferentz tenure.
I think it is a little of each. Ferentz' seven wins over Michigan do include some wins over less-than-great Michigan teams but he didn't play Michigan's 3-9 squad and has a few wins over some pretty good Michigan teams as well. Records of Michigan teams that Ferentz' Iowa squads defeated:how the F did that 2003 Michigan team lose 3 games? Man he really earned that nickname- LLLoyd.
- 11-2 (2011)
- 10-3 (2003)
I think it is a little of each. Ferentz' seven wins over Michigan do include some wins over less-than-great Michigan teams but he didn't play Michigan's 3-9 squad and has a few wins over some pretty good Michigan teams as well. Records of Michigan teams that Ferentz' Iowa squads defeated:Interesting that 1981, 1985 and 1990 were the 3 years that Fry won the big ten and went to the Rose Bowl. In those same years Iowa did not play OSU in 1981 and Iowa lost to OSU in 1985 and 1990.So yes, Fry got the benefit of playing ~.500 Michigan squads that his teams defeated in 2009, 2010, and 2013 but he also has four wins over double-digit winning Michigan teams.
- 11-2 (2011)
- 10-3 (2016, 2003, 2002)
- 7-6 (2013, 2010)
- 5-7 (2009)
FWIW:
Fry's four wins over Michigan came against teams that went:
- 10-1-1 (1985)
- 9-3 (1990, 1981)
- 6-6 (1984)
Interesting that 1981, 1985 and 1990 were the 3 years that Fry won the big ten and went to the Rose Bowl. In those same years Iowa did not play OSU in 1981 and Iowa lost to OSU in 1985 and 1990.And winning all of the games he should have won.
So I guess the key to Fry wining the Big Ten was beating Mich but not OSU.
Interesting that 1981, 1985 and 1990 were the 3 years that Fry won the big ten and went to the Rose Bowl. In those same years Iowa did not play OSU in 1981 and Iowa lost to OSU in 1985 and 1990.All three of Northwestern's modern Big Ten Titles happened during years that they didn't play OSU, but beat Michigan. 1995, 96 and 2000
So I guess the key to Fry wining the Big Ten was beating Mich but not OSU.
Interesting that 1981, 1985 and 1990 were the 3 years that Fry won the big ten and went to the Rose Bowl. In those same years Iowa did not play OSU in 1981 and Iowa lost to OSU in 1985 and 1990.Not playing Iowa in 1981/1982 probably cost Ohio State two RoseBowl appearances.
So I guess the key to Fry wining the Big Ten was beating Mich but not OSU.
Those were the dark ages of the Big Ten. Illinois that year lost to a mediocre Mizzou team and got absolutely smoked by a mediocre UCLA team in the Rose Bowl.
Yuck.
Who's the worst coach at each Big Ten school since 1978? (modern era)Hard call for Penn State
The SEC has quite a few hot seats though. Missouri, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Tennessee and Ole Miss could all be looking for coaches by the end of the year.
So Florida really trying to beat everyone else to the punch. But for who? Scott Frost?Chip Kelly would be my guess. They get their hands on him- with all of that home grown speed in Florida and being so close to states that produce a lot of talent like Georgia and Louisiana- they'd be right back in the thick of it.
The reason why BB is struggling at Arky is simple... recruiting. Arkansas will never consistently get Top 15 recruiting classes and the best way to neutralize the inherent talent deficits is to employ a different offensive attack (i.e. triple option, or even a variation of the spread as previously used by Petrino). Arkansas has some of the biggest O-lines in creation, but having a bunch of 6'7, 340 pound guys doesn't mean squat if they're being overwhelmed by smaller, but quicker and stronger, defensive front 7's.Petrino was pretty successful at Arky with a pro-style offense. Granted- Petrino is one of the best play-callers around and develops QB's like none other- but it's not exactly like he was running the read option. Mallett was a drop back passer who was about as fast as wet paint drying. And it's not like Wisconsin was recruiting top 15 classes year in year out when BERT was there. They were still a very successful program despite the lack of STARZ POWERZ!!!! I think it was the support/system at Wisconsin that made him successful. They've had a formula since King Barry of Wisconsin, first of his name got there and they've stuck to it through BERT to Andersen to Chryst and it just works for them. Wisconsin has always had great staffs. Maybe BERT isn't that good a coach? Forget out Bama'ing Bama- the guy has struggled to beat even the bad teams in the SEC. And Toledo.
It's possible to be successful in Fayetteville, but it's obvious that they can't out-Bama, Bama.
Florida was the first coaching domino to fall but it certainly won't be the last. Have to think Butch Jones is pretty much guaranteed to be gone at Tennessee at some point. Mora is on the hot-seat at UCLA. Sumlin is at A&M. Riley is at Nebraska. Great chance all 4 of those jobs open up by the end of the season. Going to really shake up recruiting as well. I know Michigan is already trying to poach some Florida and Tennessee commits/leans.MSU has two Tennessee "commits" on campus this weekend
...Which is why as a fan/follower of the Arizona schools I'm glad they've won their way out firing their coaches amidst a coaching search season that's destined to truly be cut throat. And the SEC vacancies will ripple nation wide and limit who UCLA can go out and try hiring, as if the Burins aren't already limited by a lazy AD. And once vacancies start filling up you'll see the trickle down effect of resultant openings at presumably Central Florida, Iowa State, Cal, Mississippi St, Florida Atlantic (yes, a Kiffin flyer) and (gulp) Utah. If Nebraska really wants Frost (which they should!) what is the new AD waiting for? Fire Riley and offer Frost by COB tomorrow!
You could end up late to the party and having to take your 4th or 5th choice, or just having to FIND anyone, like your interim coach just to have a coach.
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SEC program that could be without a coach come January 5: Arky, A&M, Florida, Tenn, Auburn (???), Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Mizzou ... that's one conference. Imagine half of those programs are looking ......
rumor in Lincoln from a guy with ties to boosters of substance says that Scott Frost is coming to UNLI hope so.
we shall see
rumor in Lincoln from a guy with ties to boosters of substance says that Scott Frost is coming to UNLWhat about Les Miles? I read he wants to get back into coaching. He is now an annalist on BTN.
we shall see
Imagine the irony if Kiffy goes to UCLA
The thing is, I think that would be a decent fit for him. It's an area he's familiar with, and the expectations at UCLA are considerably lower than USC's. If he can make them 9-3 consistently (which I think he can), and at least occasionally flirts with playoffs/NY6 bowls, he's golden.
What about Les Miles? I read he wants to get back into coaching. He is now an annalist on BTN.don't know who is on Moos' short list
I long for the days when a 9 win season (10 in this era) was good/great and finishing in the top 20/25 was good/great. Making a bowl game was special. Winning one was a bonus but not required.#firstworldproblems
Oh well.
It is what it is.
Another guy who will probably get a good look for P5 jobs is Lane Kiffin. Don't laugh.Too Late
Imagine the irony if Kiffy goes to UCLAAren't the shelves stocked with brainiacs in Westwood?They'd fall forever behind the Spoiled Children
it would be interesting to know the average number of coaches replaced in the 2010s compared to past decades, such as 2016 vs 2006 vs 1996 vs 1986 vs 1976 vs 1966 vs 1956Good thinkin'
So, AD Jeff Long is out at Arkansas. If it wasn't already, Bret Bielema's ass is officially on fire now.Don't they have to pay him $15 million to go away?
So, AD Jeff Long is out at Arkansas. If it wasn't already, Bret Bielema's ass is officially on fire now.he's a goner. I don't see anyway he survives. I just don't know who they'll get to replace him.
I was going off of what they were saying on SiriusXM last night, but that would make more sense.The bigger number was floated early in the season and corrected about a week later.
I long for the days when a 9 win season (10 in this era) was good/great and finishing in the top 20/25 was good/great. Making a bowl game was special. Winning one was a bonus but not required.
Oh well.
It is what it is.
UCLA just whacked Jim Mora. And so it continues...Jim Mora probably longs for those days too. Alas, he started well, winning 9, 10, and 10, with wins over USC in those three years, but then he tailed off, winning 8, 4, and 5 (so far) with no wins over USC.