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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18494 on: January 30, 2023, 09:57:20 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 30, 2023, 07:13:12 PM
But it also represents the first and only time in history, when healthy people were forced to quarantine.  That's something that needs to be carefully examined, and extensive lessons learned should be extracted from it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18495 on: January 31, 2023, 07:16:58 AM »
Healthy people were asked/forced/volunteered to quarantine on numerous occasions in history.  

Lessons from the History of Quarantine, from Plague to Influenza A - PMC (nih.gov)

It was common for ships to be held in harbor if there was any fear they had plague or anything else on board, which is a kind of quarantine of course, even if the ships were healthy.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18496 on: January 31, 2023, 09:50:12 AM »
Messaging matters.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18497 on: January 31, 2023, 10:22:17 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 31, 2023, 07:16:58 AM
Healthy people were asked/forced/volunteered to quarantine on numerous occasions in history. 

Lessons from the History of Quarantine, from Plague to Influenza A - PMC (nih.gov)

It was common for ships to be held in harbor if there was any fear they had plague or anything else on board, which is a kind of quarantine of course, even if the ships were healthy.



That's not the same at all, and is really only proving my point. Ships that were suspected of having illness, were quarantined.  The entire population of a town, where a ship was docking, was not under quarantine.

The correct analogy here, would be that everyone on the ship, along with everyone in the town, was placed under quarantine, just because there was the potential that one person on the ship, was ill.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18498 on: January 31, 2023, 10:22:58 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 30, 2023, 09:57:20 PM
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18499 on: January 31, 2023, 10:24:41 AM »
Healthy folks were quarantined 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18500 on: January 31, 2023, 10:27:13 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18501 on: January 31, 2023, 10:29:17 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 31, 2023, 10:24:41 AM
Healthy folks were quarantined

Not entire populations of healthy people.  People suspected of direct contact, sure.  

The word comes from quarantina, which was the 40 days that ships were asked to stay offshore when suspected of disease.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18502 on: January 31, 2023, 10:30:12 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 31, 2023, 10:27:13 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862329/
If there's something in there you'd like me to read, you can quote it.  I'm not sifting through an entire article if you're trying to prove a point.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18503 on: January 31, 2023, 10:58:58 AM »
Its easy to find examples of a small group of people being quarantined in history but a whole country is unique
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18504 on: January 31, 2023, 11:01:44 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on January 31, 2023, 10:58:58 AM
Its easy to find examples of a small group of people being quarantined in history but a whole country is unique
Correct.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18505 on: January 31, 2023, 11:57:16 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on January 31, 2023, 10:58:58 AM
Its easy to find examples of a small group of people being quarantined in history but a whole country is unique
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 31, 2023, 11:01:44 AM
Correct.

Right.  This is my point.

I suppose my initial post should have been stated "an entire population of healthy people" rather than just "some isolated healthy people that were already potentially compromised by an ill person" but I didn't expect the response on THIS site to include pedantic bullshittery, because I felt it was pretty obvious what I meant.

Lesson learned for me, I guess.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18506 on: January 31, 2023, 11:59:18 AM »
Technically, the entire US wasn't shut down.  But large states were.  And I agree that appears to be unique in history.

The examples I found of previous quarantines were directed at folks who might have been in contact with the infected.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18507 on: January 31, 2023, 12:09:00 PM »
The whole country was in fact shut down initially. Even Florida.
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