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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18466 on: January 28, 2023, 07:28:09 PM »
Wow, I'm your own personal boogeyman.  A big, scary caricature in your head.  
Cool.

Enjoy your invented, self-inflicted personal nightmare.  I have nothing to do with it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18467 on: January 28, 2023, 07:30:44 PM »
You guys are supporting a guy who repeatedly made DEMONSTRABLY false statements to the country. 

I guess I'm weird, in wanting the message from the leader to be true or honest or framed in an optimistic, yet uncertain sentiment.

I haven't once said Obama would have done anything better, but nearly ANYONE would have avoided making blatantly false statements (at least I hope so).

If the last two years have taught me anything, it's that Biden will outdo Trump in blatantly false statements, stupid opinions, severe ignorance, and general incompetence any day of the week and twice on Sundays.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18468 on: January 28, 2023, 07:32:02 PM »
When your child does something awful on purpose and his defense is that the other kids do it too, does that suffice and he's off the hook?

Get a mirror, man.

Yet you only rail on one guy, while seemingly happy to admit they all do it.

EDIT:  Actually, that's not true.  Off the top of my head, you routinely demean Trump--I intentionally didn't say "criticize" because that's not what you do--you called DeSantis a cartoon character, and I once brought up Jordan Peterson and you couldn't resist hopping on and rolling your eyes.  Like....I actually threw that name out there just to get a response from you, and it worked.  It was terribly predictable.  All the while, you don't ever criticize any left-leaning individuals.

Your claim to the others that they're trying to peg you for "a side," and that you don't have "a side" lacks self awareness at best.  If that were really the case, I shouldn't be able to predict your responses so often.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18469 on: January 28, 2023, 07:53:28 PM »
 even though it's easy to look back in hindsight and point out things that now seem obviously wrong. 
unfortunately, the things that seem obviously wrong in hindsight
aren't obviously wrong to many.  and many of those many are in leadership positions
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18470 on: January 28, 2023, 08:50:41 PM »
Yet you only rail on one guy, while seemingly happy to admit they all do it.

EDIT:  Actually, that's not true.  Off the top of my head, you routinely demean Trump--I intentionally didn't say "criticize" because that's not what you do--you called DeSantis a cartoon character, and I once brought up Jordan Peterson and you couldn't resist hopping on and rolling your eyes.  Like....I actually threw that name out there just to get a response from you, and it worked.  It was terribly predictable.  All the while, you don't ever criticize any left-leaning individuals.

Your claim to the others that they're trying to peg you for "a side," and that you don't have "a side" lacks self awareness at best.  If that were really the case, I shouldn't be able to predict your responses so often.


Who are the radical left talking heads I should be including? 
Biden?  When the democrats were down to 4 presidential nominees, 2 were moderate and 2 were more liberal.  Biden was one of the moderates remaining.  But since he's the prez now, he's an extreme lefty psycho grandpa demon.  Sure, why not. 
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When a person is standing in the middle, they get to see what both sides are doing.  The right started the sprint away from the middle and they distanced themself faster.  In the past 5 years, the left has been going light speed away from the center.  But instead of taking advantage of this and gaining actual ground by easing up just a little and being a tiny bit more centrist, the right hitches their wagons to Trump.  Even after he loses.  Now, on both sides, there are minority groups wanting to be more centrist, but neither is convincing their tribe to do it.  Today, Trump's numbers easily beat out any other righty politician.  On the left, no one wants Biden, but there's no one to replace him, and replacing an incumbent in the first place isn't wise.
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So when you cite my mentioning righty whack-jobs that are out there and ask why I don't do the same with the lefties, it's because I don't know who they are.  AOC doesn't matter (she can thank the GOP for her popularity).  Bernie's gone.  Warren disappeared.  Pelosi = McConnell (blah-blah run-of-the-mill fodder).  Who is the lefty Jordan Peterson, sharing their word salad, silly use of 'substrate' and cries all the time?  BLM?  No idea who the leader of that was.  The person who led the charge to take all the guns away....ooops, that never happened.
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When you ask why I don't PFFFT at both sides, IDK what you want.  The far-left crazies are crazy.  Duh.  But the one voted into the White House wasn't one of them. 
We're at a point now where no one from the left is decent enough not to be a garbage human being, according to the right.  And the right has colossally fucked up in not rolling out someone sane to take advantage of the last 5 years of antifa, BLM, etc.
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Don't get mad at me for that.  Both sides are BROKEN.  No one is woke enough for the left and no one sane garners enough support on the right. 
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Go on and tell me how wrong I am, when you agree with 80% of what I just typed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18471 on: January 28, 2023, 08:54:38 PM »
If the last two years have taught me anything, it's that Biden will outdo Trump in blatantly false statements, stupid opinions, severe ignorance, and general incompetence any day of the week and twice on Sundays. 
that's very impressive, cause Trump was pretty solid in those areas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18472 on: January 28, 2023, 10:10:31 PM »
I don't think Trump's "exaggerations" made any difference in the course of the pandemic, perhaps one could argue a slight on early on.

I don't think Biden's "lies" make much difference in reality either.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18473 on: January 28, 2023, 10:59:13 PM »
rational people, like most of us here, don't pay much attention to that noise
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18474 on: January 29, 2023, 06:30:35 AM »
Sure, that's the point, a lie by some politician is pretty irrelevant if it changed nothing.  There are times when their lies are significant because of that, lying about some international incident can be pivotal for example.  Trump engaged early on in unfounded wishful thinking (as did Pelosi).  I don't think it changed the outcome.

Of course, it's an opinion that had anyone competent been president, the outcome would have been better, OK, that can be your opinion, I just don't share it.  This thing was going to run its course, the shape of the pandemic might have been a bit different, but we had no tools beyond sheltering in place, and that just changed the shape of the curve.  Then there was the vaccine, a real tool, but one that provided protection a lot less effective than hoped over time.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18475 on: January 29, 2023, 06:33:13 AM »
We attended a concert last night that included a choir of around 180 voices.  I noticed four women and two men in the choir wearing masks.  I think two in the orchestra wore masks, including the "tympanist".  We had attended a year plus back when all the strings wore masks, but not the horns and woodwinds (ha), a rather strange sight.  The audience had a sprinkling of mask wearers, maybe 5% or so, some were elderly, some were Asian.

I think my wife got COVID from a concert about a year ago before a trip.  And we're about to take another trip ....


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18476 on: January 29, 2023, 07:07:34 AM »
Government officials are thinking of increasing oversight of risky virus studies : Shots - Health News : NPR

Felicia Goodrum, a virologist at the University of Arizona, says that open-minded experts have investigated the origins of the pandemic. The available evidence, she says, supports the notion that the virus emerged from nature just like other viruses such as HIV and Ebola did — by jumping from animals into people who had contact with them.
Many Scientists Still Think The Coronavirus Came From Nature
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Many Scientists Still Think The Coronavirus Came From Nature

"The evidence that we have to date suggests that SARS-CoV-2 entered the human population by that route," says Goodrum. "There is no evidence to the contrary or in support of a lab leak, nothing credible."
Basic research on viruses, she says, is what led to the swift development of vaccines and drugs to fight the pandemic.
And yet virologists have watched in dismay as misinformation and conspiracy theories have placed the blame on science.
"There's this complete disconnect between reality and what happened," says Michael Imperiale, a virologist at the University of Michigan.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18478 on: January 29, 2023, 08:52:13 AM »
a good urge?

I have an urge to get another cup of coffee
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18479 on: January 29, 2023, 09:55:41 AM »

I think my wife got COVID from a concert about a year ago before a trip.  And we're about to take another trip ....

Stay lucky you nut

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