header pic

Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

 (Read 747451 times)

OrangeAfroMan

  • Stats Porn
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 18794
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18480 on: January 29, 2023, 02:56:25 PM »

"There's this complete disconnect between reality and what happened," says Michael Imperiale, a virologist at the University of Michigan.



Wasn't he Christopher on The Sopranos?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71094
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18481 on: January 30, 2023, 06:37:41 AM »
We have a long flight upcoming and I'm wondering if they will want masks (Air Canada).  It's a 12+ hour flight, in the back.

Changes to COVID-19 travel requirements (aircanada.com)

And they don't, they dropped everything in September apparently.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2023, 06:52:18 AM by Cincydawg »

847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25026
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18482 on: January 30, 2023, 08:10:16 AM »
We have a long flight upcoming and I'm wondering if they will want masks (Air Canada).  It's a 12+ hour flight, in the back.

Changes to COVID-19 travel requirements (aircanada.com)

And they don't, they dropped everything in September apparently.


Correct.

Masking

Customers will no longer be required to undergo health checks for air travel or wear masks on board flights. Although the masking requirement is being lifted, all customers are recommended to wear high quality and well-fitted masks for the length of their journey.

I'm not aware of any Western airlines requiring masks anymore, but you have to wear them if you are going to China and other places like it.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18483 on: January 30, 2023, 11:23:44 AM »
Go on and tell me how wrong I am, when you agree with 80% of what I just typed.

Like, 50%, maybe.

It would take far more time than I have at work to go over the laundry list of the ways Democratic politicians do things I strongly disagree with.  

Where you have a point is that the majority of the Republican party also irritates me.  Just not in the direction it seems you're alluding to.  But again, their list of crimes against my preferences is too long to detail here.  

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71094
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18484 on: January 30, 2023, 11:31:34 AM »
If someone can tie Trump's misstatements into how COVID was worse than it would have been otherwise, that would be somewhat useful.

But really, it's not important.  Most folks who are "politically aware" suffer greatly from confirmation bias.  They only see what is bad for the other side, and minimize or ignore anything bad about theirs.

The only reason I suffer less from this is I don't like or respect ANYBODY in public office.  There probably are a few exceptions somewhere, maybe.  

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18485 on: January 30, 2023, 11:41:49 AM »
There are a number of politicians I like.  As far as I know about them, I mean.  There's always a good chance I don't know things about their voting record, stance, etc. that I wouldn't agree with.  They are just outnumbered by a fair bit.  

Not really much for me to do other than talk, though.  At the national level, I'm fairly happy with my district's representative, and I'm "okay" with the two senators.  Not much I can do about any of the others....I don't vote for or against them.  

I'd like an upgrade at governor.  I voted for somebody else in the primary, although I voted for him in the general election.   

Honestbuckeye

  • Team Captain
  • *******
  • Posts: 5790
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18486 on: January 30, 2023, 12:10:35 PM »
Like, 50%, maybe.

It would take far more time than I have at work to go over the laundry list of the ways Democratic politicians do things I strongly disagree with. 

Where you have a point is that the majority of the Republican party also irritates me.  Just not in the direction it seems you're alluding to.  But again, their list of crimes against my preferences is too long to detail here. 
50%.  I would say more like 10%.   

as usual- he is all wrong and has a very selective memory. 

The main reason a dufus like Trump ( and he is a dufus/ which is why I couldn’t vote for him either time) could even win when he did was because how rapidly and how far the left moved further left- into outrageous world - even bizzaro world. That, and the other choice was Crooked Hillary/ the queen of stealing classified docs, skirting responsibility and outright lying.  Most of the country couldn’t stomach her- or 4 more years of Obama ( “ you’ll keep your doctor and be able to afford health care😂😂)
I am sure he was part of the million vagina March on Inauguration Day, where Madonna said “burn the White House down” before Trump ever took office.  Followed by 2 days of Antifa riots, smashing windows and starting fires- ya know, because they crybabies didn’t have an election go there way.  Followed up with the “ we only lost because they cheated” false conspiracy theories and the Russia Russia collusion lies.
Trumps problem is he has diarrhea of the mouth. Oddly- he created more issues by telling the truth. He said things you can’t say- even though must folks realize they are true

I never cared for him, and the GOP irritates the hell out of me.
But the fake impeachment proceedings, the attempted railroading of Kavanaugh with 200% of the facts and evidence in Kavanaugh’s favor, and the great woke Covid strategy/ made me realize the left is truly intentionally trying to bring this country to its knees- and they are great at leveraging their control of the MSM and Social Media to be well on their way.

Their performance during Covid was a thing of beauty.  Get on the same page with the media, blame Trump for the origin of Covid, and everything related to it, exaggerated
the death toll,fight tooth and nail against any initiative he tried- including accelerating the Vaccine production, resist closing air flights coming in from  its origin geographies, virtually all things they would reverse course on once Trump was gone.

If you repeat a lie enough, in numerous places and by enough of your minions, your minions ( like Fro) not only believe them/ they perpetuate them. 

Meanwhile- our current Prez can’t tell the truth on anything- and it’s hard to tell if he is that bad of a liar or his dementia is just that advanced.
You know/ “ the economy is doing great” or “there is no problem at the border” or “ they are not teaching CRT in schools”.  Stuff we can see a plane as the sun rising. 

Fro has shown his colors enough to see that when he claims to be standing in the middle- you know that’s Big fat lie. He leans far left on virtually EVERY issue discussed on this board, from abortion to gun control- everything.  And he takes a shot on any person of faith, anything to do with religion- and especially anything that could be perceived as patriotic.  He thinks someone who loves this country is a problem and needs to eliminated. 

just look at his posting history-  so when he comes back and tries to deny this, you too can just laugh. 


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
-Mark Twain

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18487 on: January 30, 2023, 12:26:01 PM »
In a sense, I'm fine if someone leans left, even far left.  

Just be self-aware about it.  

I've never tried to hide the fact that I'm right-leaning and while I often disagree with other right-leaning people, I think it's a generally fair characterization to label me conservative.  

I don't get the "centrist" talk from either side, as if it's a given that being a centrist is necessarily some kind of virtue.  Centrism has its benefits, sure, but as a product of two sides pulling against each other, not as a starting point someone aspires to.  The primary reason I don't like so many Republicans in office is because they are too busy trying to be centrists.  I could care less about appeasing liberals.  They sure aren't trying to appease anyone else.  

Prior to the 2020 election, maybe for the first time ever, I read the the entirety of the party platforms.  It was a pretty eye-opening experience.  About 90 pages for one and 50 pages for the other--I forget now which was which.  The Republicans basically just ratified the 2016 platform and so I believe it was probably that older document I read.  The Democrats had crafted a new one for 2020.  As much as the Democratic platform made me want to hurl, I had to give them credit for putting in writing exactly what they're about and then proceeding to work their butts off to those ends.  I also remember thinking, hey, if Republicans actually acted toward the goals in their platform, I'd like them better.    

I just don't see much evidence that they do.  They say the right things, but then they get in office and don't do what they say.  And if they think they truly are working toward those ends, then they need serious help in understanding the world in which they operate....which I don't think is the case.

I could care less if someone thinks I'm "far-right" (a term so abused now that it's lost all meaning) or thinks I'm not evolved enough because I'm not a centrist.  I don't care about being a centrist.  I don't care about placating someone with different views.  In general we've always wound up somewhere more in the middle because the world is full of people pulling against people like me.  It's not my job to meet them in the middle.  The middle happens when I pull exactly where I want things to be and other people tug against me.  

Cincydawg

  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 71094
  • Oracle of Piedmont Park
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18488 on: January 30, 2023, 12:39:16 PM »
If asked, I tell folks I'm an "extreme moderate", which usually gets a chuckle and a change in the topic.


847badgerfan

  • Administrator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 25026
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18489 on: January 30, 2023, 01:06:30 PM »
We have a uniparty in DC, its only interest is maintaining its power.

We have a very deep swamp to enable it too.

They don't care about us. They are coming after us.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2134
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18490 on: January 30, 2023, 07:04:51 PM »
I love how everybody talks about COVID and the deaths in the abstract.  x,xxx,xxx people died, but xx% of those were not really covid deaths, the media hyped, politicians hyped, blah blah blah.  

The reality of it is that real people died, and they died from COVID.  Many hospitals were over-run, there were shortages of medical staff, medical supplies, the the bodies piled up.  

I know personally of 18 people who died from COVID, including my dad and my uncle.  I know people from work who died, I know people who were permanently disabled because of COVID.  I have friends who had parents who died of COVID.  

It always baffles me when people say they don't know anybody who died from COVID, or they only know of one person in passing who died.  We must just live in different worlds, because it was a real thing, and lots and lots of people died, and not all of them were old and feeble.  I know of one person whose 49 year old wife died from it, leaving their 10 year old son without a mom.  

Everybody wanted their say, media, politicians, doctors for vax, doctors for anti-vax, school boards, airlines, tourism, sports.  And the people paid the price.  The kids who didn't go to school for more than the first covid semester paid the price.  And we still can't even agree on anything because there is so much bullshit on top of bullshit we can't even agree that the sky is blue or that water is wet.  




utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17617
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18491 on: January 30, 2023, 07:13:12 PM »
I hear ya.

I still don't know a single person that died of COVID or was even hospitalized.  And that includes my 80+year old inlaws who got it in July 2020 when it was still in its initial, most harmful phase.

I guess my response is,  it's baffling to me that you could possibly know 18 people who died of it.

But I don't deny it had a severe impact to the health and lives of people.  It definitely happened.

But it also represents the first and only time in history, when healthy people were forced to quarantine.  That's something that needs to be carefully examined, and extensive lessons learned should be extracted from it.

longhorn320

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 9294
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18492 on: January 30, 2023, 08:21:33 PM »
when you talk about covid you are really talking about at least 4 variants 

The first one was the worst

The one we have now is the mildest

That plus the fact herd immunity has really increased

The flu poses a bigger threat to life in todays world
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37369
  • Liked:
Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18493 on: January 30, 2023, 09:56:35 PM »
Everybody wanted their say, media, politicians, doctors for vax, doctors for anti-vax, school boards, airlines, tourism, sports.  And the people paid the price.  The kids who didn't go to school for more than the first covid semester paid the price.  And we still can't even agree on anything because there is so much bullshit on top of bullshit we can't even agree that the sky is blue or that water is wet. 




this

we've learned nothing
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.