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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18508 on: January 31, 2023, 12:46:09 PM »
Some states did not.

States that did not issue stay-at-home orders in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, 2020 - Ballotpedia

Seven states—Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming—did not issue orders directing residents to stay at home from nonessential activities in March and April 2020 in response to the coronavirus pandemic. The 43 other states all issued orders at the state level directing residents to stay at home except for essential activities and closing businesses that each state deemed nonessential.[1] Read more about those stay-at-home orders here.

Only one of the seven states that did not issue a stay-at-home order did not require any businesses to close: South Dakota. All seven states also closed schools to in-person instruction.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18509 on: January 31, 2023, 12:57:48 PM »
A Closer Look at the States that Stayed Open | AIER

Despite COVID-19’s role in the decline of the fossil fuel industry which is a key component in states like North Dakota and Wyoming that didn’t issue stay at home orders, they still managed to maintain better employment rates than many states that did lock down. 
The rest of the states that didn’t issue stay at home orders (Utah, South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, and Arkansas) fared just as well if not better than other states. In particular, Utah and Nebraska did extraordinarily well maintaining a 4.5% and 4.8% unemployment rate, respectively while keeping death rates low.
 In contrast, pro-lockdown states like New York, California, and Massachusetts saw catastrophic unemployment numbers, 15.9%, 13.3%, and 16.1% respectively, alongside high COVID-19 death rates.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18510 on: January 31, 2023, 12:58:58 PM »
So, vis a vis "not learning anything", maybe "we" did learn something, lock downs were ineffective and counterproductive.  I realize those are largely rural states and other factors are at play, but a lot of states like GA are rural also.

And then there is Sweden, and China.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18511 on: January 31, 2023, 01:25:46 PM »
I stand corrected. But the overall point stands. Mass lockdowns were a mistake - one that many learned, and early on. 

Prolonging them was a disaster for the states that did so.

Florida was wide open for everything by the time we left in June 2020. When we got here in April, you couldn't dine in (1 week later you could), gyms were not open, nail salons, hair salons, etc. were not open.

The changes came about in the first week of June or so. 

When we got back in September, you mostly wouldn't know we had a pandemic going on. Stark difference from Illinois, and even Wisconsin. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18512 on: January 31, 2023, 01:33:21 PM »
So, vis a vis "not learning anything", maybe "we" did learn something, lock downs were ineffective and counterproductive.  I realize those are largely rural states and other factors are at play, but a lot of states like GA are rural also.

And then there is Sweden, and China.
I didn't then, and don't in hindsight, have a problem with the lockdowns of Mar/Apr 2020. We didn't really know what we were dealing with. 

It was any/every attempt at lockdown after that, that I had a problem with. It was keeping kids out of schools that I had a problem with--thankfully my kids, 2 in a charter school at the time, and one in a special needs program, were receiving in-person instruction. It was keeping significant mandatory precautions (mask mandates / etc) after widespread vaccine availability was there that I had a problem with. 

By May/June 2020 we had a handle on how transmissible it was, how deadly it was, and a decent idea of how people could individually reduce their risk of getting it. At that point I think we should have had guidelines on "best practices", which yes include social distancing, encouraging employees who can  productively WFH to do so (and their employers to let them), even masking (until vaccine availability) out of courtesy to others. 

But instead, politicians tilted at windmills with attempting to control the uncontrollable. All while those hypocrites were privately flouting all the things they told everyone else to do. 

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« Reply #18513 on: January 31, 2023, 01:44:58 PM »
Great post B-RAD.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18514 on: January 31, 2023, 11:30:37 PM »
But instead, politicians tilted at windmills with attempting to control the uncontrollable. All while those hypocrites were privately flouting all the things they told everyone else to do.
yup, we've learned nothing
the same states will lock down again in the future

and politicians will once again tilt at windmills
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18515 on: January 31, 2023, 11:37:46 PM »
Only one of the seven states that did not issue a stay-at-home order did not require any businesses to close: South Dakota. 


hence, folks moving to South Dakota

even though it's way too F ing cold there right now
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18516 on: January 31, 2023, 11:56:01 PM »
It's 15 here much fooking colder can it get? Nevermind...and I brought the beer in off the back porch
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18517 on: February 01, 2023, 10:37:15 AM »
South Dakotans have nothing to fear from me, I will not be moving there.  They're welcome for my support.


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« Reply #18518 on: February 05, 2023, 01:49:23 PM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18519 on: February 05, 2023, 11:45:18 PM »
Welp, I avoided the Rona for about 3 years (or at least never tested positive) until last week.  Unfortunately, I was in New Orleans at a conference when it happened. So instead of getting to see a little of a town I’d never been to I spent the entire week quarantined in my hotel room.

Monday night into Tuesday morning was the worst of it.  Fever, chills, body aches, etc.  By Tuesday afternoon I was feeling somewhat better but had zero energy.  Wednesday-Friday I still wasn’t 100% but much better than I had been.  I actually snuck out Thursday afternoon and took a walk just to get outside and get some exercise.

Started a Z pack when I got home Friday night and have felt much better since then.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18520 on: February 06, 2023, 06:17:14 AM »
So, it sounds like it's akin to the flu?  I've not tested positive (yet).  I figure I could catch it on this cruise upcoming.  Or the plane flights.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #18521 on: February 06, 2023, 06:38:36 AM »
Welp, I avoided the Rona for about 3 years (or at least never tested positive) until last week.  Unfortunately, I was in New Orleans at a conference when it happened. So instead of getting to see a little of a town I’d never been to I spent the entire week quarantined in my hotel room.

Monday night into Tuesday morning was the worst of it.  Fever, chills, body aches, etc.  By Tuesday afternoon I was feeling somewhat better but had zero energy.  Wednesday-Friday I still wasn’t 100% but much better than I had been.  I actually snuck out Thursday afternoon and took a walk just to get outside and get some exercise.

Started a Z pack when I got home Friday night and have felt much better since then.
Good to hear you feel better!
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