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847badgerfan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5040 on: June 08, 2020, 02:28:47 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 08, 2020, 02:22:27 PM
Wow, do we really need three overtly political threads on the non-political message board?

Can we at least keep this one clear for mostly Corona-related discussion?  I feel like we've had a lot of good discussion and exchange of ideas on this one, related to the current pandemic.  Can we keep it that way? 


Yeah, I'd rather we not have it on this thread, but, it's happened. We don't need the thread about the AR. I admit I've waded too, but it's going too far in some of these threads.

The stream thread should be the only one for this (temporary) allowance of political discussion. When the protests and such die down, we can lock it.

Plus, players reported today, for football activities. Seems like we'll be getting that back soon - something I didn't predict would happen.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5041 on: June 08, 2020, 02:30:10 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5042 on: June 08, 2020, 02:40:18 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5043 on: June 08, 2020, 02:42:58 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5044 on: June 08, 2020, 02:45:42 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 08, 2020, 02:42:58 PM
The WHO now saying that asymptomatic spread is very rare.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html


Well, I'm skeptical of that organization, given that they said this thing wasn't a risk, and were critical of our country banning travel from China.

But, I'll take any good news I can get these days.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5045 on: June 08, 2020, 02:47:33 PM »
That's a bit of a surprise to me.

I favor distancing where possible and face masks where it isn't while protecting the elderly with near isolation.

We should know for sure if crowds really spread this a lot soon.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5046 on: June 08, 2020, 02:47:55 PM »
Florida had a large jump in cases this past week, but did far more tests than the week prior. The percent positive remained flat, at 3.62 (up from 3.51 the prior week).

Deaths are dropping greatly. Maybe the doctors have a better understanding on treatment now?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5047 on: June 08, 2020, 02:49:06 PM »
On second thought, a person without symptoms is not coughing/sneezing a lot, which I THINK is the primary transmission vector.

So, perhaps it does make sense.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5048 on: June 08, 2020, 02:49:45 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 08, 2020, 02:42:58 PM
The WHO now saying that asymptomatic spread is very rare.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html


I hope thats true but hey because this came from WHO I wouldnt be surprised if the exact opposite is the case
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5049 on: June 08, 2020, 02:50:23 PM »
The mortality rate could be dropping because the elderly have been isolated and are less often contracting the virus, in addition to doctors understanding how to treat serious cases.  This cytokine explosion thing is treatable, and they know how to manage it now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5050 on: June 08, 2020, 02:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 08, 2020, 02:49:06 PM
On second thought, a person without symptoms is not coughing/sneezing a lot, which I THINK is the primary transmission vector.

So, perhaps it does make sense.
Yeah that's some of the takeaway, I think.

Also, people with symptoms are potentially carrying a heavier viral load than those without, and at least some of the research is indicating that the size of the viral load is one of the greatest factors for transmission, as well as severity.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5051 on: June 08, 2020, 02:54:06 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 08, 2020, 02:47:55 PM
Florida had a large jump in cases this past week, but did far more tests than the week prior. The percent positive remained flat, at 3.62 (up from 3.51 the prior week).

Deaths are dropping greatly. Maybe the doctors have a better understanding on treatment now?
That's what I'm trying to figure out. New case rates are pretty flat nationally at 20K+/day. Deaths were on a downward trend for 5 weeks, paused a week, and now appear to be headed further down. 

In California, new case rates are increasing, but deaths are holding constant and haven't changed much in the last 6 weeks.

I can see two possibilities:

  • Doctors are becoming more effective at treating the severe cases or stopping the moderate cases from deteriorating to severe, so despite the cases we're doing better at treatment.
  • Because we're ramping up testing, we're catching more of the mild cases so we're adding cases without high likelihood of death. 

If it's #1, that's good in general. Because that means that if infections start rising again after reopening, we can hopefully keep the impact of those infections from being dire.

If it's #2, that might be an indication that social distancing is working (because we're seeing reduced deaths, i.e. we're actually improving the situation) but that case rates are holding steady due to increased testing. If that's the case, reopening might have bad effects.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5052 on: June 08, 2020, 02:54:22 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 08, 2020, 02:49:45 PM
I hope thats true but hey because this came from WHO I wouldnt be surprised if the exact opposite is the case
They've had their missteps, that's for certain.  I think much of their early positioning was politically motivated.  As this has gone on, I feel like they've become more health-focused, which is good since that's the title of their organization.

If you believe that the WHO has been acting with a certain agenda throughout this pandemic, I don't see how this particular statement serves that agenda.  If anything, it goes the opposite direction.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5053 on: June 08, 2020, 03:02:07 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on June 08, 2020, 03:00:45 PM
They didn’t wNt him to win. There is plenty of evidence they did things that would
work against him. 
I heard the tape.
Take it to the politics board.  We're done discussing it here.  Thank you for your support.
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