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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5026 on: June 08, 2020, 01:23:31 PM »
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86893

Could be interesting. Maybe not. Watch the stuff sell out now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5027 on: June 08, 2020, 01:31:57 PM »
yep if you believe CNN Trump is a double digit underdog to Biden

no way thats true the American people are not that stupid
People are often stupid, especially when making group decisions.
The American people elected Woodrow Wilson twice, FDR four times by four landslides, LBJ by a landslide, Richard Nixon twice, once by a landslide, Bill Clinton twice, defeating honorable WWII veterans both times, and then a black man with a sketchy past, and without any notable accomplishments beyond delivering a good speech at the convention, twice.
Give 'em a choice between two bad candidates in 2020, and they're certainly capable of picking the one you don't like.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5028 on: June 08, 2020, 01:33:39 PM »
Quick Hits: Today’s Top Stories
  • As of Sunday night, 1,941,978 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in the United States (an increase of 22,548 from yesterday) and 110,503 deaths have been attributed to the virus (an increase of 712 from yesterday), according to the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Dashboard, leading to a mortality rate among confirmed cases of 5.7 percent (the true mortality rate is likely much lower, between 0.4 percent and 1.4 percent, but it’s impossible to determine precisely due to incomplete testing regimens). Of 20,235,678 coronavirus tests conducted in the United States (456,805 conducted since yesterday), 9.6 percent have come back positive.
  • Friday’s jobs report beat expectations. Rather than increase to near 20 percent, as many economists worried, the unemployment rate actually declined in May, settling in at 13.3 percent as economic activity gradually picks up.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5029 on: June 08, 2020, 01:39:29 PM »
All of those elderly voters dying doesn't help Trump's re-election bid.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5030 on: June 08, 2020, 01:47:28 PM »
All of those elderly voters dying doesn't help Trump's re-election bid.
most of those are in blue states so it wont have much effect

it would be much better if all the Blue state Mayors treated the nursing homes better
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« Reply #5031 on: June 08, 2020, 01:48:26 PM »
Oh, whew.  Dodged a bullet there.  Oh wait, too soon.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5032 on: June 08, 2020, 02:00:45 PM »
Oh, whew.  Dodged a bullet there.  Oh wait, too soon.
no bullet dodging required

if the dems keep doing what they are doing Trump will win in a landslide
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5033 on: June 08, 2020, 02:02:40 PM »
I don't think polls are somehow biased for political purposes.  That makes no sense to me.  I also think polls at this point are particularly pointless, other than perhaps to track trends.  And obviously the polls likely to matter are in the critical midwestern states.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5034 on: June 08, 2020, 02:04:53 PM »
I don’t care for him, but your saying it nicely. The factual evidence on the whole collusion thing now clearly points to fraud at the least and possible laws broken, as a means to start an investigation that many behind knew had no merit.
I do think the whole collusion thing was horribly misunderstood and misreported, because we still keep calling it "the whole collusion thing". 

We know the Russians were trying to meddle in our election. We know they were doing so to make it more likely that Trump won. There was no proof that the Trump campaign actively colluded with them to do that, and the investigation basically stated that. 

What nobody seems to walk back and ask is "why did the Russians want him to win? How does his victory benefit Russia?" 

I'm not entirely sure, but I think his efforts to pin the interference in the election on the Ukrainians instead of Russia, at the specific time that the Russians needed some political cover for annexing the Crimea, are a little suspect.


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not far different from the whole impeachment thing.  Total transparency- here is a tape of the call. 

No, no, no.

There was never a tape of the call provided to anyone. Didn't happen.

And although they kept saying "read the transcript", the 'transcript' wasn't a transcript -- it was a memo summarizing what was said on the call. So we have no clue how accurate it actually is.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5035 on: June 08, 2020, 02:09:18 PM »
The obvious thing Dictator Trump would do if he could is eliminate elections, and he'd appoint members of Congress, if he bothered with one.
Remember how many times he's "joked" about staying on for 12, 16 years "or longer"? Remember how he's "joked" about how much President for Life is awesome?

That said, I think that might be a little too far even for his own supporters. So we'll have President Ivanka elected in to 2024, followed by President Jared in 2032... When does Barron turn 35? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5036 on: June 08, 2020, 02:12:07 PM »
Yes, it's hard to defend, but you did about the best job possible.  So, congrats!
There was no modesty about it.  There was no acceptance that there might be other, even better, ideas to consider.  The authors of ObamaCare would not have even considered a "catastrophic-care-only" option, because the ACA was going to be the miracle fix for everything.  To have allowed a limited option would have been an admission that it was not all win-win, that people were being commanded to give up something and their views ought to be considered too.
Another part of what was wrong was the process itself.  They rammed it through Congress without a single Republican vote using parliamentary trickery to the max.  Previous major changes in the relationship between American citizens and their government (like Social Security and the Great Society programs) got at least some buy-in from the opposition party.  Not with ObamaCare.  The opposition was told that they had lost the election and should go to the back of the bus.
So, sold to the American people with lies, passed by parliamentary trickery, and ruled to be Constitutional by SCOTUS on logic that the administration wasn't even using in its arguments before the Court. What's not to like about all that?
Tons of problems with the bill. It only works with a robust individual market, but by not breaking up employer-sponsored insurance plans, by not breaking up union-sponsored insurance plans, by not breaking up Medicare/Medicaid, there was no way to get enough people into the system to have a robust individual market. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5037 on: June 08, 2020, 02:22:27 PM »
Wow, do we really need three overtly political threads on the non-political message board?

Can we at least keep this one clear for mostly Corona-related discussion?  I feel like we've had a lot of good discussion and exchange of ideas on this one, related to the current pandemic.  Can we keep it that way?  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5038 on: June 08, 2020, 02:24:44 PM »



No, no, no.

There was never a tape of the call provided to anyone. Didn't happen.

And although they kept saying "read the transcript", the 'transcript' wasn't a transcript -- it was a memo summarizing what was said on the call. So we have no clue how accurate it actually is. 


everyone hearing the phone call has testified that it was correct

so what more do you need

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5039 on: June 08, 2020, 02:26:37 PM »
Wow, do we really need three overtly political threads on the non-political message board?

Can we at least keep this one clear for mostly Corona-related discussion?  I feel like we've had a lot of good discussion and exchange of ideas on this one, related to the current pandemic.  Can we keep it that way? 


quiet or we'll create a 4th one lets talk about Biden's son

just kidding
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