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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4158 on: May 22, 2020, 01:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2020, 01:17:55 PM
This is the US.  We cannot test everyone, it wouldn't be legal to demand it of us.  I'm not going to get tested unless I show symptoms, sorry, I'm not going to do it, much less "every so often".  You seem to latch on to some "concept" as a panacea, an easy fix, that isn't.

The US has tested 41,000 per million population (probably duplicates etc.).  South Korea has tested 15,643 per million population.  Denmark has tested about 89,000 per million, the highest figure for any larger country.  This notion that somebody out there was tested everyone is fatuous nonsense.






Watch out CD you might be being childish or dishonest
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4159 on: May 22, 2020, 02:05:00 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4160 on: May 22, 2020, 02:06:03 PM »
Some folks lap up whatever the media puts out without any circumspection, or examination of facts.

It's facile of course, versus trying to understand some issue, which tends to be time consuming, and can be counter to what you really would like to be true.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4161 on: May 22, 2020, 02:59:26 PM »
From The Dispatch.

Quick Hits: Today’s Top Stories
  • As of Thursday night, 1,577,140 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in the United States (an increase of 25,472 from yesterday) and 94,702 deaths have been attributed to the virus (an increase of 1,271 from yesterday), according to the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Dashboard, leading to a mortality rate among confirmed cases of 6 percent (the true mortality rate is likely lower, but it’s impossible to determine precisely due to incomplete testing regimens). Of 13,056,206 coronavirus tests conducted in the United States (408,415 conducted since yesterday), 12.1 percent have come back positive. (NOTE: The Atlantic reported yesterday that the Centers for Disease Control is “combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus,” thus “overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19.” We will continue including the Johns Hopkins University data, but take the recent increase in testing figures and decline in test positivity with a grain of salt.)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4162 on: May 22, 2020, 03:01:25 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2020, 02:06:03 PM
Some folks lap up whatever the media puts out without any circumspection, or examination of facts.

It's facile of course, versus trying to understand some issue, which tends to be time consuming, and can be counter to what you really would like to be true.
You don't say...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4163 on: May 22, 2020, 03:02:56 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 22, 2020, 01:58:49 PM
Watch out CD you might be being childish or dishonest
I'm usually the childish one.

but, I'm only 57 years of age, so.............

getting tested , even every damn day by every damn person will not stop this virus
it will only tell you if you currently have the virus or not
testing for antibodies would be more useful in my opinion - that would tell you if you ever had it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4164 on: May 22, 2020, 03:04:24 PM »
Isn't the main PCR test performed by jamming a swab deep up your nasal passages? 

No thanks. I'll suffer that if I have symptoms or any reasonable reason to think I might be infected, but I'm not just volunteering.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4165 on: May 22, 2020, 03:05:34 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2020, 01:17:55 PM
This is the US.  We cannot test everyone, it wouldn't be legal to demand it of us.  I'm not going to get tested unless I show symptoms, sorry, I'm not going to do it, much less "every so often".  You seem to latch on to some "concept" as a panacea, an easy fix, that isn't.


The US has tested 41,000 per million population (probably duplicates etc.).  South Korea has tested 15,643 per million population.  Denmark has tested about 89,000 per million, the highest figure for any larger country.  This notion that somebody out there was tested everyone is fatuous nonsense.
Again the leaps you take are amazing.
I don't recall saying we force-test everyone.  No clue where you pulled that from.  Nevermind with it, it's just all on deaf ears.  I'm not going to bother.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4166 on: May 22, 2020, 03:16:23 PM »
before lunch I stopped by the local Menard's store to pick up some light bulbs for the company garage...

there was a nice lady just inside the door telling everyone that a mask was required to enter the store........... I thanked her and went back to my vehicle and proceeded to the next place to purchase my bulbs.

Menard's was selling facemasks for $1 if I needed one.

It was only a bit inconvenient to me.  I didn't feel bad or angry about it.  Everyone and every business have to make decisions everyday about safety of themselves and their employees and customers.

I didn't feel that Menard's was foolish or doing anything righteous.  Just their decision.  Good for them.

This is the only large business I'm aware of in my area that requires a mask.  I was a bit surprised, but only a bit.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4167 on: May 22, 2020, 03:27:57 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
If you test everyone, you can predict outbreaks and even avoid them. 
If we set up drive-thru testing like South Korea did in FEBRUARY, people could get tested every so often. 


Then the virus would have really been hamstrung and you could REALLY complain about how fake it was.

Nobody is coming anywhere close to testing everyone, which appears to be your suggestion above.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4168 on: May 22, 2020, 03:45:26 PM »
Governor ordered mandatory testing for all day care workers in the state. An asymptotic Employee at one in my county tested positive. Chaos has ensued.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4169 on: May 22, 2020, 04:03:24 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on May 22, 2020, 03:45:26 PM
Governor ordered mandatory testing for all day care workers in the state. An asymptotic Employee at one in my county tested positive. Chaos has ensued.
That's fine, we're going to have to get past the point where people clamor over any one single test result. Because there are going to be millions of them over the next 12-18 months.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4170 on: May 22, 2020, 04:12:54 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on May 22, 2020, 12:47:21 PM
The Woodstock generation was certainly less fat, but they also smoked a hell of a lot more.  "Health" is a relative term.

https://youtu.be/MmjnQjRvPUQ?t=3
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4171 on: May 22, 2020, 04:43:54 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on May 22, 2020, 12:47:21 PM
The Woodstock generation was certainly less fat, but they also smoked a hell of a lot more.  "Health" is a relative term.


from my generation


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