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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4144 on: May 22, 2020, 11:59:22 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2020, 11:25:21 AM
Those of us who are lucky enough to be working are probably mostly OK, I guess??

This is disturbing, however:

[img width=500 height=281.997]https://i.imgur.com/z9TlTXh.png[/img]
As the old saying goes that which doesnt kill you makes you stronger

I just hope thats true in this case

we will come out of this and I think it will be faster then a lot of folks think
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4145 on: May 22, 2020, 12:02:23 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 22, 2020, 09:11:58 AM
It does no good to test just to test
The test is just a point in time
Negative today might become positive a week later

The only reason to test the general population is for a confined facility like a nursing home or a ship

widespread testing only means tests are widely available for anyone showing symptoms
Who has ever said 'test just to test'???
You test as many people as possible, not just people showing symptoms.  That's what we did and that's how things got so bad.  
You test as many people as possible at a point in time to identify areas of outbreak - to avoid them from growing out of control.
Every neighborhood is akin to a confined facility - every town is a virtual confined facility, every city, etc. (most people staying put, a few coming and going to other areas).



More information is always better than less information.  < this is what it all really comes down to
Being against additional testing is utterly indefensible.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4146 on: May 22, 2020, 12:09:07 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2020, 12:02:23 PM
Who has ever said 'test just to test'???
You test as many people as possible, not just people showing symptoms.  That's what we did and that's how things got so bad. 
You test as many people as possible at a point in time to identify areas of outbreak - to avoid them from growing out of control.
Every neighborhood is akin to a confined facility - every town is a virtual confined facility, every city, etc. (most people staying put, a few coming and going to other areas).



More information is always better than less information.  < this is what it all really comes down to
Being against additional testing is utterly indefensible.
You cant test to identify areas of outbreak you would have to test everybody every day which cant happen

Once a hot spot develops you should test everybody in a confined area so we both agree on that
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4147 on: May 22, 2020, 12:12:19 PM »
If you test everyone, you can predict outbreaks and even avoid them. 
If we set up drive-thru testing like South Korea did in FEBRUARY, people could get tested every so often. 


Then the virus would have really been hamstrung and you could REALLY complain about how fake it was.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4148 on: May 22, 2020, 12:21:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
If you test everyone, you can predict outbreaks and even avoid them. 
If we set up drive-thru testing like South Korea did in FEBRUARY, people could get tested every so often. 


Then the virus would have really been hamstrung and you could REALLY complain about how fake it was.
So we should be doing 320,000,000 tests daily every day

come on even you cant believe that

it is my under standing we do have drive through testing

here is Houston's


https://www.click2houston.com/health/2020/04/06/map-here-are-10-drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-sites-in-the-houston-area/


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4149 on: May 22, 2020, 12:25:26 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 22, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
So we should be doing 320,000,000 tests daily every day

come on even you cant believe that

it is my under standing we do have drive through testing

here is Houston's


https://www.click2houston.com/health/2020/04/06/map-here-are-10-drive-thru-coronavirus-testing-sites-in-the-houston-area/



+27,000,000 or so. 

Florida has drive through also. Illinois and Wisconsin too.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4150 on: May 22, 2020, 12:26:52 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 22, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
So we should be doing 320,000,000 tests daily every day

come on even you cant believe that
You're not this stupid.  The leaps you routinely make when you disagree with people on here are childish or dishonest.  You can specify which.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4151 on: May 22, 2020, 12:36:03 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2020, 12:26:52 PM
You're not this stupid.  The leaps you routinely make when you disagree with people on here are childish or dishonest.  You can specify which.
OAM you need to resist the snarky comments as they make you look stupid which Im sure youre not

Tell me what testing everyone means to you

How did I misunderstand

If you mean test everyone when a hot spot develops then we agree
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4152 on: May 22, 2020, 12:44:41 PM »
Just going to leave this here...

https://www.aier.org/article/woodstock-occurred-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic/

"The flu spread from Hong Kong to the United States, arriving December 1968 and peaking a year later. It ultimately killed 100,000 people in the U.S., mostly over the age of 65, and one million worldwide.

Lifespan in the US in those days was 70 whereas it is 78 today. Population was 200 million as compared with 328 million today. It was also a healthier population with low obesity. If it would be possible to extrapolate the death data based on population and demographics, we might be looking at a quarter million deaths today from this virus. So in terms of lethality, it was as deadly and scary as COVID-19 if not more so, though we shall have to wait to see."

“In 1968/69,” says Nathaniel L. Moir in National Interest, “the H3N2 pandemic killed more individuals in the U.S. than the combined total number of American fatalities during both the Vietnam and Korean Wars.”

We were are more resolved, hardened people as a nation. Today this nation is a clown show of soft ass p***sies that get constantly get hood-winked by know nothing do nothing corrupt politicians and a corporate news media that is pure propaganda. Like Badge always says.....the PoA.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4153 on: May 22, 2020, 12:47:21 PM »
The Woodstock generation was certainly less fat, but they also smoked a hell of a lot more.  "Health" is a relative term.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4154 on: May 22, 2020, 12:51:24 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2020, 11:25:21 AM
Those of us who are lucky enough to be working are probably mostly OK, I guess??

This is disturbing, however:


I'm still working, and it certianly has impacted me. I've had a couple very sluggish weeks. I'm not the most social human, but I've had face-to-face interactions with like two people I actually know, one a roommate. 

I did find myself in an interesting discussion about work from home after all this. On one hand, many companies will learn that some of the things they do can be done remotely. And that could mean more WFH. Some of that will be good. Some will not. It could change living patterns, traffic patterns, how public transit works. Some crazy stuff to think about. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4155 on: May 22, 2020, 12:59:27 PM »
I'm not really impacted at all, but I'm used to working alone anyway. I do miss the weekly staff meetings, in person, but we are using Teams to accomplish that. No, it's not the same, but it's something. We do a lot of Zooming too, for personal interactions.

I think people are opening up to the idea of getting together, at a safe distance, outdoors.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4156 on: May 22, 2020, 01:14:42 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2020, 12:59:27 PM
I'm not really impacted at all, but I'm used to working alone anyway. I do miss the weekly staff meetings, in person, but we are using Teams to accomplish that. No, it's not the same, but it's something. We do a lot of Zooming too, for personal interactions.

I think people are opening up to the idea of getting together, at a safe distance, outdoors.
We had a small gathering over at my mother's house on Mother's Day,  We all sat on the front lawn, my parents in one area, my brother and his family, my sister by herself (her kids are grown), and me and my family.  All 4 groups distanced around 8' apart from one another, in the outdoors on a sunny day.  So far, nobody seems to be sick, so that's good.

We'll be doing something similar on Memorial Day, over at my sister's.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4157 on: May 22, 2020, 01:17:55 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
If you test everyone, you can predict outbreaks and even avoid them.  
This is the US.  We cannot test everyone, it wouldn't be legal to demand it of us.  I'm not going to get tested unless I show symptoms, sorry, I'm not going to do it, much less "every so often".  You seem to latch on to some "concept" as a panacea, an easy fix, that isn't.

The US has tested 41,000 per million population (probably duplicates etc.).  South Korea has tested 15,643 per million population.  Denmark has tested about 89,000 per million, the highest figure for any larger country.  This notion that somebody out there was tested everyone is fatuous nonsense.





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