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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4130 on: May 22, 2020, 09:11:58 AM »
I don't think "wide spread testing" is actionable in the US for reasons noted.  Availability is different from actual testing.
It does no good to test just to test
The test is just a point in time
Negative today might become positive a week later

The only reason to test the general population is for a confined facility like a nursing home or a ship

widespread testing only means tests are widely available for anyone showing symptoms
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4131 on: May 22, 2020, 09:16:14 AM »
I thought the term "wide spread testing" would mean something like 50+% of the population being tested at least once.  I don't view that as possible here, nor desirable.

But if it means having tests widely available, yes, that is good.

Certain people should be tested often, obviously.  I see no reason for my being tested right now.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4132 on: May 22, 2020, 09:23:23 AM »
I thought the term "wide spread testing" would mean something like 50+% of the population being tested at least once.  I don't view that as possible here, nor desirable.

But if it means having tests widely available, yes, that is good.

Certain people should be tested often, obviously.  I see no reason for my being tested right now.
Yes and they are like hospital workers and nursing home workers and maybe top government officials
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4133 on: May 22, 2020, 09:27:10 AM »
Yes and they are like hospital workers and nursing home workers and maybe top government officials
But, but, but that’s not what the talking heads are screaming from the mountain tops constantly.....
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4134 on: May 22, 2020, 10:09:55 AM »
Yes and they are like hospital workers and nursing home workers and maybe top government officials
And, of course, football players.  Gotta test them all daily, college and pro, so we can get our sports back!  I consider them "essential workers." ;)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4135 on: May 22, 2020, 10:24:36 AM »
And servers at breweries. I consider them essential!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4136 on: May 22, 2020, 10:49:47 AM »
Absolutely!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4137 on: May 22, 2020, 10:53:01 AM »
everyone in the USA should receive a 30 pack of in-home tests each month

everyone should then test themselves daily and report the results to a national website to be counted as useless data

this should go on at the expense of the national healthcare budget for at least the next decade

THAT would resolve this crisis once and for ALL
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4138 on: May 22, 2020, 10:57:31 AM »
everyone in the USA should receive a 30 pack of in-home tests each month

everyone should then test themselves daily and report the results to a national website to be counted as useless data

this should go on at the expense of the national healthcare budget for at least the next decade

THAT would resolve this crisis once and for ALL
yes and if anyone tests positive the national guard will come and haul you away to a detention center

they will also test anyone you have been in contact with and if necessary haul them away as well

Bill of Rights be damned this is serious 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4139 on: May 22, 2020, 11:01:35 AM »
yes and if anyone tests positive the national guard will come and haul you away to a detention center

they will also test anyone you have been in contact with and if necessary haul them away as well

Bill of Rights be damned this is serious
They won't need to test anyone you have been in contact with because all of those people will be doing daily self-tests as well.

I think I'm okay with all of that, as long as when they do haul me off to my detention center, they do it by drone.

And they better put me in Detention Block AA-23.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4140 on: May 22, 2020, 11:06:49 AM »
wherever they haul me off to had better have a golf course and a beer cart driven by a hotty
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4141 on: May 22, 2020, 11:25:21 AM »
Those of us who are lucky enough to be working are probably mostly OK, I guess??

This is disturbing, however:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4142 on: May 22, 2020, 11:42:26 AM »
Well my wife lost her job for 6 weeks so it's certainly negatively affected our mental health.

She did get called back this week.  They finally got some of that Federal payroll loan money. But they can't guarantee it will last beyond the next 4 weeks or so.

We're already in the process of making her plans to be self-employed, but right now there are just so few PT patients that are willing to come into close physical contact with their therapist, that she's not likely to have many patients until people become less fearful.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4143 on: May 22, 2020, 11:47:31 AM »
Those of us who are lucky enough to be working are probably mostly OK, I guess??

This is disturbing, however:


No, I 100% believe it, and those who are working aren't immune. 

I could tell that it was affecting my wife, and only over the last week or two has she recognized that I was right and that it was getting to her a lot more than even she was admitting. She not only is still working, but is still going into an office every day. But it's just wearing on her. 

Part of it is the worry or stress of the virus itself, but I think it's more due to the disruption of life. Her best friend who is undergoing chemo for breast cancer and she can't be there to support her in the way she normally would. Even though we don't go out that much we're told we can't, which suddenly makes our normal behavior seem limiting. She can't go to brunch with her girlfriends. She feels unable to even walk the aisles of Target, which for her is stress-relief, and instead is doing buy online / pick up in store. She's going to an office, but is bored out of her mind because without patients coming in her workload is minimal; she mostly just sits there and waits for the phone to ring. There's the lack of F2F interaction with her dad and stepmom, who live only a few miles from us now. We would have had them over for Mother's Day and didn't due to coronavirus. And while it might sound completely trivial, she can't get her nails done. 

None of these things, by themselves, would probably affect her. But you add them all up, it just wears her down mentally. 

People want their lives back. She works in healthcare. She realizes, logically, how serious this is and why it's important to take all the precautions that we've taken. She knows you just can't magically wish away the virus. But emotionally... She wants her life back. 

The idea that somewhere near 50% of the population is reporting mental health issues with this doesn't surprise me at all. 

 

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