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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2030 on: April 16, 2020, 03:58:49 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 16, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
That’s just showing the counties, not the cities. From what I understand, vast majority of cases are in the city of Detroit. Which is poor as shit.

Most people in Michigan don’t live in Detroit. They live in the suburbs 30 mins to an hr outside in every direction.
Im not disputing that the poorer sections suffer the most

sad but true
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2031 on: April 16, 2020, 04:07:14 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 16, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
I think this is already happening,but since it wasn't in Hospitals or treatment wasn't sought it's not a stat.I've had quite a few folks say they think they have already had it
Well, it has also been flu season, so a lot of folks who had "something" may think it was COVID-19.  My wife had what we assumed was a very hard flu back in February.  Lasted about 2 1/2 weeks, and she was really down.  Now we suspect that it might have been COVID.
She'll get tested for antibodies at some point, and we'll find out.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2032 on: April 16, 2020, 04:07:24 PM »
outdoor physical activity exception???

if it's important enough that you can't plant a garden or drive to your vacation home or take a boat out on a lake ......... why is it not important enough to go jogging?


WTF logic is that???
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2033 on: April 16, 2020, 04:07:43 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 16, 2020, 03:58:49 PM
Im not disputing that the poorer sections suffer the most

sad but true
My point was that if the vast majority of cases are in the city of Detroit- which is still by far the largest city in Michigan at about 700,000 residents- a far cry from the nearly 2 million residents it once had in the 1950s- then banning people from going to their vacation homes up north isn’t going to do much- seeing as 99.9% of the residents that live in the city of Detroit are pretty much poor as dirt and don’t have vacation homes up north.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2034 on: April 16, 2020, 04:09:20 PM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on April 16, 2020, 03:10:31 PM
From what I have read/heard, no one is considered recovered unless they have had 2 consecutive negative Covid tests at least 24 hrs apart. And being as testing is hard to come by, it is next to impossible to be tested for it once you have passed the 14 day quarantine period. Therefore, the official number of recovered will stagger far behind the number of infections. It is just another way to pad the numbers.
so, you don't have to be tested to be on the list of COVID, but you need 2 tests to be recovered???
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2035 on: April 16, 2020, 04:50:57 PM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on April 16, 2020, 03:10:31 PM
From what I have read/heard, no one is considered recovered unless they have had 2 consecutive negative Covid tests at least 24 hrs apart. And being as testing is hard to come by, it is next to impossible to be tested for it once you have passed the 14 day quarantine period. Therefore, the official number of recovered will stagger far behind the number of infections. It is just another way to pad the numbers.
Well, I think it's to make sure that people don't mistakenly think they are virus free, not to pad numbers.  It's pretty common in all sorts of medical tests.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2036 on: April 16, 2020, 04:56:59 PM »
This timeline of events is enlightening.  Nobody can claim they were in front of this-and it really makes it clear why the world leaders are coming down on WHO/CCP

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/from-new-york-to-canada-to-the-white-house-initial-coronavirus-responses-havent-aged-well
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2037 on: April 16, 2020, 05:03:03 PM »
It is normal for politicians to seek to place blame on someone else for anything bad (and vice versa).  IMHO, there should be time for this in the future, not now, when perhaps we should focus on what we can do NOW instead of what should have been done then.
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« Reply #2038 on: April 16, 2020, 05:16:37 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 16, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
It is normal for politicians to seek to place blame on someone else for anything bad (and vice versa).  IMHO, there should be time for this in the future, not now, when perhaps we should focus on what we can do NOW instead of what should have been done then.
Yes- like approving more funds for the PPP loans for small businesses to keep people on their payroll
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2039 on: April 16, 2020, 05:27:22 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 16, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
It is normal for politicians to seek to place blame on someone else for anything bad (and vice versa).  IMHO, there should be time for this in the future, not now, when perhaps we should focus on what we can do NOW instead of what should have been done then.
Amen. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2040 on: April 16, 2020, 05:49:13 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 16, 2020, 04:09:20 PM
so, you don't have to be tested to be on the list of COVID, but you need 2 tests to be recovered???
... the ones who aren't tested can't recover. Because they're dead. 

(And the two test thing is about double checking to make sure they don't say "you're cured" and then you go see old relatives with tragic results, which seems prudent)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2041 on: April 16, 2020, 05:55:12 PM »
so we're going to have a million cases - 30,000 dead - 230,000 recovered?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2042 on: April 16, 2020, 06:14:11 PM »
Why not?  China only has... like... 3,000 dead or something.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2043 on: April 16, 2020, 06:16:53 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 16, 2020, 06:14:11 PM
Why not?  China only has... like... 3,000 dead or something.
Only 3,000 dead, but the big 3 mobile phone service providers in China have lost 21 million subscribers since this thing broke out. Hmmmm.
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