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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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NorthernOhioBuckeye

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7014 on: July 17, 2020, 01:35:18 PM »
You bypass/skip/ignore the 20 studies that say you're wrong so that you can cite the 2 that agree with you.  Again, stop it.
The review I posted examined a lot of those studies and found them inconclusive. 

Again, You stop first. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7015 on: July 17, 2020, 01:37:08 PM »
I'm not curious.

Like they just said "I quit" and then went on unemployment?
You're not, or you are?

Yes, I've had people quit and try to collect. They lost.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7016 on: July 17, 2020, 01:51:29 PM »
You're not, or you are?

Yes, I've had people quit and try to collect. They lost.
Even if 3.5 million more went on unemployment, that's not even 10% of the 40+ million that lost their jobs March-May.

This thing sucks all around.  People are going to continue to be unemployed as long as various businesses are deemed unsafe, either by the government or by the free market.

My wife was laid off for 2 months, and is back at reduced pay right now.  She is a manual physical therapist, hands-on with every patient.  8 patients per day, 5 days per week, easily within a foot of other people's noses and mouths during their time together.  She's not the only one in the clinic, they have 6 therapists on staff, so there are 12 people in the same room at any given time, all day, every day.  Her risks are certainly as great as any teacher's risk, and her only other choice is to not do it, and lose her job.  She's not a "frontline" worker in a hospital ICU or ER, she didn't "choose" to put herself at risk or in the line of fire-- she's a physical therapist at an outpatient orthopedics office in an office building that also houses a dentist, an orthodontist, and not one but TWO title companies for some reason.

Scores of millions of people in this country are in the same situation.  This is not unique.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7017 on: July 17, 2020, 02:00:09 PM »
You're not, or you are?

Yes, I've had people quit and try to collect. They lost.
Well that's a weird autocorrect typo. 

Anyway, there's a joke to be made about engineers thinking they understand all systems.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7018 on: July 17, 2020, 02:03:14 PM »
Yup, most engineers think they know everything.

And, some of us DO! :)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7019 on: July 17, 2020, 02:12:33 PM »
Life would be a lot more simple if I was "just" an engineer. Engineering education gives you nothing about actually running a business. Of course, neither does an MBA.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7020 on: July 17, 2020, 02:16:25 PM »
Life would be a lot more simple if I was "just" an engineer. Engineering education gives you nothing about actually running a business. Of course, neither does an MBA.
I already knew everything well before I got my engineering degree, OR my MBA.  #blessed


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7021 on: July 17, 2020, 02:21:37 PM »
Life would be a lot more simple if I was "just" an engineer. Engineering education gives you nothing about actually running a business. Of course, neither does an MBA.
At times I thought about going back for an MBA. 

But it always just felt very vague. Like I'd come out with some diverse skills I could apply to many random old companies. Like an upgraded english degree or something.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7022 on: July 17, 2020, 02:23:28 PM »
I started an MBA program, and after about 4 courses I said "WTF am I doing" and pulled out. I wasn't learning anything I couldn't learn by self-teaching. It was silly. Nothing I learned there helped me at all in my 20 years of running a company. Nada.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7023 on: July 17, 2020, 03:30:39 PM »
I tend to view an MBA as a thing to put on your resume.  And perhaps parts of it can be useful at times, I don't have one, the kid in Texas just finished one.

BA, JD, MBA .... probably looks good on a resume.

Initials often do.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7024 on: July 17, 2020, 03:45:28 PM »
Online learning was poor in the spring because it was a sudden, unplanned switch.  It should be better in the fall and going forward.  If you find it's exactly the same as the spring, your school district sucks.
I expect it will be better than it was for two of the kids... The ones without severe autism. Still not as good as in-person, but better than the spring.

For the third, who does have severe autism, he's basically forfeiting an entire year of development with distance learning. The little bit he had in the spring wouldn't have happened if I hadn't been sitting right next to him in front of the computer. Even then there was no engagement. 

If I could somehow get the school district to at LEAST allow special ed students who need the additional support to be in-person, it would make a huge difference. 

 
It sure won't be a closed minded, left wing activist that will change my mind. Again, I have read/listened to arguments from all sides and what I have seen to date tells me that the whole mask thing is mostly bullshit. Again, if you don't agree, so be it. You do you and I'll do me.
What about me? Or utee? Or Cincy? Or Badge, who supports masks.

What will make you change your mind? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7025 on: July 17, 2020, 03:48:17 PM »
Yeah, it's probably obvious I'm a bit (not much) right of center... please wear a mask. Please.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7026 on: July 17, 2020, 03:51:42 PM »
I have no desire to obtain an MBA. My career arc for much of the first decade was at small companies where I (as a field applications engineer) basically was the "glue guy" of the team... As a result, I got to see how things REALLY worked across multiple domains of the business. 

My company later put me up for a management program offered by UCI, kind of a micro-MBA for engineers. I went into it and came out of it thinking I already knew basically all the stuff they covered, with the exception of some of the more arcane financial stuff. But I realized I was already multi-disciplinary. 

MBA would certainly look nice on my resume, but at this point I'm specialized enough in my career that I doubt it would do much unless I want to pivot out of the role I was born for, which somehow I was lucky enough to find. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7027 on: July 17, 2020, 03:57:04 PM »
I'll take the P.E., P.L.S., and C.F.M., thank you.

I've never hired anyone with an MBA. I guess I wouldn't want some snot telling me how to run my thing. Heh.
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