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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1302 on: April 05, 2020, 04:14:03 PM »
Mdot:

I just moved the post to which you are responding to Badge's new thread.

If you have a source for what you're saying, both the $1.2 trillion and the apples-to-apples comparison with the next 15 countries, please post it over on that thread.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1303 on: April 05, 2020, 04:55:18 PM »
Ahh, I misunderstood you. To be fair, you weren't perfectly clear lol



I had no clue you were talking about things like food stamps (SNAP). When you said "the entitlement programs" I thought you were talking about the bulk of them (SS & Medicare), which are the lion's share of mandatory spending. I hadn't meant that the programs "people bitch about" was a particular subset you didn't name.

That said, SNAP is part of the mandatory spending portion too. It's not discretionary.
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Whether discretionary or not, the entitlements a certain half of our country bitches about as being handouts or unearned or whatever equals drops in the bucket compared to everything else.  
And the military spending % of the discretionary budget is only growing under Trump.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1304 on: April 05, 2020, 07:22:08 PM »
Social Security is not an entitlement program

The government is simply paying back the money it took from me for 40 years
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1305 on: April 05, 2020, 07:50:41 PM »
Yeah, and you are entitled to SS payments at the correct age.  You are not being in any sense paid back what you put into it.  That money went to folks receiving benefits at the time, plus some into the SSTF.

It's an entitlement.  There is nothing pejorative about the term, except as common usage has altered its meaning.  You are entitled to payments.  That is the definition of an entitlement.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1306 on: April 05, 2020, 08:12:56 PM »
Wasn't SS at risk a few years ago?  Did that ever get settled?  The balloon population of the boomers retiring and all that....???
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1307 on: April 05, 2020, 08:30:37 PM »
Wasn't SS at risk a few years ago?  Did that ever get settled?  The balloon population of the boomers retiring and all that....???
Take it to the other thread I started.

I would like to see a response to the research I did on the Alabama stuff. I spent about 2 hours on that, based on your question: "Why is that?"

To not get a response, to me, is disrespectful.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1308 on: April 05, 2020, 08:31:33 PM »
Social Security is not an entitlement program

The government is simply paying back the money it took from me for 40 years
There is a new thread for this.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1309 on: April 05, 2020, 08:33:01 PM »
Yeah, and you are entitled to SS payments at the correct age.  You are not being in any sense paid back what you put into it.  That money went to folks receiving benefits at the time, plus some into the SSTF.

It's an entitlement.  There is nothing pejorative about the term, except as common usage has altered its meaning.  You are entitled to payments.  That is the definition of an entitlement.
There is a new thread for this.



I want a response from @OrangeAfroMan on my Alabama research. I would like it now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1310 on: April 05, 2020, 09:09:42 PM »
lol
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1311 on: April 05, 2020, 09:12:24 PM »
lol

That's the response I get for doing your research? You asked, and I did it for you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1312 on: April 05, 2020, 09:14:53 PM »
So I need to find your post on another thread, then find out what I was even asking about, because I don't remember....and there's a time limit?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1313 on: April 05, 2020, 09:19:46 PM »
So I need to find your post on another thread, then find out what I was even asking about, because I don't remember....and there's a time limit?
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It's in this thread, which got derailed, as usual. I'll bring it to the forefront, for you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1314 on: April 05, 2020, 09:21:21 PM »


Alabama is in for a world of hurt.


Why is that? 

This is a question from @OrangeAfroMan in response to me post about Alabama being in for a world of hurt.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1315 on: April 05, 2020, 09:23:16 PM »
This is me, saying I would do the research necessary to properly respond.



Why is that? 
There are many reasons.

Poor population may be one. Mass congregation in churches is for sure one. Ignorant to the severity. Lack of social distancing. It all adds up.

What these IHEM models are not showing us is demographics. That I'm really curious about.

I have some ideas from looking at maps in my own area, town by town, because I know those towns. In general, it is the wealthy towns (travel-related, no doubt) and the very poor towns that are the hardest hit. I know "who" lives where around here.

I guess I will try to do some research to drill down on the why, versus assuming that they are "conservative" or otherwise. I'll report back on what I find, if I'm able to figure out the demographics of towns down there. I have no familiarity at all with the makeup of Birmingham, for example, so it will take me some time.


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