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betarhoalphadelta

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« Reply #3360 on: December 21, 2024, 10:59:00 AM »
On a side note, they released “ A Christmas Story Story” last year, and it’s a really decent movie with most of the cast of the original.  I really enjoyed watching it, and thought it was well written and blended elements of the original well with the new.
Yeah, my wife and I watched it as well. 

I wouldn't call it a great standalone movie; I'm thinking it was largely fan service to nostalgic old people like us... But for that, it was very well done. 

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« Reply #3361 on: December 21, 2024, 11:02:42 AM »
Gremlins is a Christmas movie for sure.

And of course so is Die Hard. 

The main plot of the movie can only occur because of Christmas.  John McClane is only there to foil the burglary, because he's come to visit his family for Christmas.  The Christmas party occurring at Nakatomi Tower is also important in setting up some of the characters and the drama that later unfolds.  And if it's not set at Christmastime, we don't get this iconic imagery:



I mean, I really don't get why some folks seem offended when Die Hard is named a Christmas movie.  You can have your Christmas movie definition and I'll keep mine, thank you very much.

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« Reply #3362 on: December 21, 2024, 11:09:31 AM »
Oh I’m not offended in the least. I just can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. 

But I’m leaning towards trolling.  
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« Reply #3363 on: December 21, 2024, 11:09:53 AM »
Yeah, my wife and I watched it as well.

I wouldn't call it a great standalone movie; I'm thinking it was largely fan service to nostalgic old people like us... But for that, it was very well done.
That’s exactly what it is. 

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« Reply #3364 on: December 21, 2024, 11:12:06 AM »
We watched Christmas Vacation last night before the Indiana Bowl.

CV >>> Indiana Bowl
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« Reply #3365 on: December 21, 2024, 11:12:47 AM »
Gremlins is a Christmas movie for sure.

And of course so is Die Hard. 

The main plot of the movie can only occur because of Christmas.  John McClane is only there to foil the burglary, because he's come to visit his family for Christmas.  The Christmas party occurring at Nakatomi Tower is also important in setting up some of the characters and the drama that later unfolds.  And if it's not set at Christmastime, we don't get this iconic imagery:



I mean, I really don't get why some folks seem offended when Die Hard is named a Christmas movie.  You can have your Christmas movie definition and I'll keep mine, thank you very much.
Actually, you could have the exact same movie if you replace Christmas with 3-4 other plot elements. July 4th party, for instance, would work just as well. 

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« Reply #3366 on: December 21, 2024, 11:14:28 AM »
I can understand why people don't like Love Actually.  I just personally find it to be clever, and uplifting.  Bill Nighy as the aging rock star is among my favorite performances by any actor in any movie, ever.

I absolutely loathed Bad Santa. Juvenile and trite.  IMO.


It helps that I watched the second one when I was quite juvenile and trite. 

as for the first, it probably didn’t help that I had heard for a long time that it was very good. And I just didn’t like it at all. That’s it, I’m very happy other people do.

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« Reply #3367 on: December 21, 2024, 11:19:08 AM »
Actually, you could have the exact same movie if you replace Christmas with 3-4 other plot elements. July 4th party, for instance, would work just as well.

Nobody travels cross-country to be with estranged family and loved ones for the 4th of July. 

There's no particular reason It's a Wondferful Life has to occur at Christmastime.  People get introspective and suicidal all through the year.

There's no reason Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol needs to occur at Christmas.  The ghosts of New Year's past present and future would work just fine.  Arguably better, since people tend to review their history and their future when a New Year begins.


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« Reply #3368 on: December 21, 2024, 11:19:53 AM »
Serious question. Do you really consider Die Hard a Christmas movie?  
didn't ask me but, NOPE
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« Reply #3369 on: December 21, 2024, 11:21:40 AM »


Xmas Movie
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« Reply #3370 on: December 21, 2024, 11:22:52 AM »
Not trolling, I consider it a Christmas movie.  No offense intended but your draconian definitions and boundaries for what constitutes a Christmas movie, need not apply to me, I'm not compelled to abide by them. :)

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« Reply #3371 on: December 21, 2024, 11:23:36 AM »


Xmas Movie

didn't ask me, but nope. :)

It was fun though.

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« Reply #3372 on: December 21, 2024, 11:25:54 AM »
I almost always have fun here
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« Reply #3373 on: December 22, 2024, 12:46:54 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=8988180447915282&set=a.105576696175746&type=3

BREAKING NEWS: Study Confirms Die Hard is More of a Christmas Movie Than Rudolph!

In a shocking turn of events, researchers at the Yuletide Institute for Cultural Studies (YICS) have released a groundbreaking study proving that Die Hard qualifies as a Christmas movie more than Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

The study analyzed over 1,000 holiday films based on five criteria:

1. Presence of Christmas Themes

2. Amount of Holiday Music

3. Family Reconciliation Subplots

4. Christmas Eve Setting

5. Use of Christmas Decorations as Plot Devices

Lead researcher, Dr. Holly Evergreen, explained, "While Rudolph is a charming tale, it scored surprisingly low on Christmas ambiance due to its lack of Christmas Eve stakes and overly generalized 'holiday cheer.' Meanwhile, Die Hard scored off the charts with its heavy use of Christmas songs, a plot centered on a Christmas party, and Bruce Willis literally using wrapping tape to save the day."

Key Findings:

Die Hard features 21 Christmas trees, while Rudolph has only 4.

The soundtrack of Die Hard includes “Let It Snow” and “Winter Wonderland,” compared to Rudolph’s singular titular song.

Bruce Willis shouts “Ho-ho-ho” (albeit sarcastically) after defeating a bad guy, adding bonus points.

Dr. Evergreen also noted that Die Hard depicts family reconciliation on Christmas Eve—a hallmark of the holiday genre—whereas Rudolph, "while adorable, is more of a tale about workplace discrimination."

Public Reaction:
The results have ignited fierce debates online.

“Die Hard has Christmas, explosions, and Alan Rickman in a Santa suit. What else do you need?” – @HolidayHero

“Rudolph is a classic! How dare you compare it to a movie about glass-filled feet!” – @RedNoseLoyalist

YICS researchers hinted that their next study will determine whether Home Alone or It’s a Wonderful Life is the ultimate Christmas movie, with Elf as the dark horse contender.

For now, one thing is clear: Die Hard isn’t just a Christmas movie—it’s apparently the most Christmas movie. Yippee-ki-yay, holiday fans!

 

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