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Cincydawg

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Rankings ... ugh
« on: May 22, 2023, 07:15:43 AM »
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2023, 07:18:36 AM »
Among my least favorite (of many) rankings, click bait most of them ... this mostly is just a ranking of recent program success.  When a coach like Meyer or Saban have done well at multiple programs (2 or more), OK, I get it, they are likely quite good.  But maybe Smart just inherited a diamond in the rough and managed to have it cut properly.  Would he do as well at Penn State or Cincy?  No way to know, just speculation.  Anyway ...

This is near the top of my list of rankings I dislike.  (I reserve the top for wine rankings each year ...).
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2023, 08:29:33 AM »
Need a ranking of the rankings you dislike.

(Rankings fascinate me to no end)
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2023, 08:55:25 AM »
ugh
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2023, 08:56:27 AM »
I realize rankings are mostly for clicks, especially this time of the year.  I dislike any which are not at least somewhat quantatively based, and reflect solely opinion.  I don't really mind them, they don't upset me, it's more of an ugh.

Prettiest stadiums in US
Best looking cheerleaders (I have no objection to doing the research...)
Best team mascot
Best team helmet/uniform/tradition/tailgating

Some that are at least semi-quantitative:

Best position player of all time 
Loudest stadium
Best team/season of all time
Best programs of whatever era

And then totally quantitative, which can get rather silly:

Most passing yards on third down in fourth quarter career by an ACC QB.

For topics like say best tailgating, I'd just submit a group of them and say they are all really good.  Visit and make up your own mind.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2023, 09:02:39 AM »
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2023, 09:03:35 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on May 22, 2023, 08:29:33 AM
Need a ranking of the rankings you dislike.

(Rankings fascinate me to no end)
1. Preseason
2. Big Game Boomer rankings
3. RPI
4. FPI
5. Best Freeways in the Los Angeles basin
6. Any rankings that automatically have 10 SEC teams in the Top 10 solely because they're SEC
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2023, 09:05:24 AM »
I don't mind preseason rankings in large part because I'm "here", meaning I think everyone here understands how to "take" preseason guesses, I mean, rankings.

Sometimes some team will show up I hadn't considered as ranking worthy, so I read a bit about them, say Tulane for example.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2023, 09:41:48 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 08:56:27 AM


Most passing yards on third down in fourth quarter career by an ACC QB.

Phillip Rivers?
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2023, 09:43:22 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on May 22, 2023, 09:03:35 AM
6. Any rankings that automatically have 10 SEC teams in the Top 10 solely because they're SEC
You pretend as if the SEC isn't the top conference in recruitiing by far, every year, national champions, in draft picks, high draft picks, and pro bowlers.
You know, like every metric.  
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2023, 09:46:28 AM »
He said "solely because they are SEC", not because they have some good teams.  And he said, as a quip, a ranking that has ten SEC teams in the top ten.  I don't think any of us here would take such a national ranking seriously, nor should we.  Clearly, it's hyperbole to suggest that by simply being in the SEC, a team will get a favorable ranking boost that otherwise is unwarranted.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2023, 10:34:43 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 22, 2023, 09:46:28 AM
He said "solely because they are SEC", not because they have some good teams.  And he said, as a quip, a ranking that has ten SEC teams in the top ten.  I don't think any of us here would take such a national ranking seriously, nor should we.  Clearly, it's hyperbole to suggest that by simply being in the SEC, a team will get a favorable ranking boost that otherwise is unwarranted.
Softball and baseball are like this year in and year out.

Some years ago, the twice-beaten Gopher softball team was top-6 in all rankings going into the NCAA Tournament. The committee rewarded them by sending them to Tuscaloosa as the 3 seed in their regional. The justification was that Bama was SEC.
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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2023, 12:53:35 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on May 22, 2023, 10:34:43 AM
Softball and baseball are like this year in and year out.

Some years ago, the twice-beaten Gopher softball team was top-6 in all rankings going into the NCAA Tournament. The committee rewarded them by sending them to Tuscaloosa as the 3 seed in their regional. The justification was that Bama was SEC.
Two different things here, seasonal polls by the AP or whatever versus some committee seeding teams for a playoff.  I doubt the latter provided that justification.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2023, 01:13:02 PM »
hard not to put anyone other than Saban at #1. Kirby is a worthy #2. 
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