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Gigem

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« Reply #6748 on: August 04, 2026, 11:06:06 AM »
Yes to all 20, but fyi, #11 isn't as outdated as some people think.  It's still common practice at medical offices to transmit medical records from one office to another via fax.  Some of their EMR's are connected to the fax line and it has the outward appearance of something like email, but it's still a fax.  And some offices still use plain old fax machines.  Deemed more secure for HIPAA concerns than email systems. 
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong. It's not a fax with the thermal paper and a phone line that actually dials a number.  It's all somehow software driven, and the faxes are just digitally received and saved, not printed out like in the old days.  
So even though technically it's a fax, it's not like the ones we used to do with the scanning and thermal paper.  

So when's the last time you sent an honest-to-goodness, scan, call the number, feed the paper, get a confirmation page fax? For me, probably around the year 2000, +/- 3 years.  

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« Reply #6749 on: August 04, 2026, 11:07:19 AM »


This day in 2005, these men, save one, were in an AAV that rolled over a large IED.  Travis Williams had been called away to another vehicle as  they were loading up.  Their 28 ton track was flipped over and burned.  Hard to believe time passes, isn't it? 


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« Reply #6750 on: August 04, 2026, 11:36:10 AM »
Ray Bradbury's short story There Will Come Soft Rains, about an AI operated house that continues operating well after a nuclear catastrophe kills the family living there, begins with the lines:

"In the living room the voice-clock sang, Tick-tock, seven o'clock, time to get up, time to get up, seven o 'clock! as if it were afraid that nobody would. The morning house lay empty. The clock ticked on, repeating and repeating its sounds into the emptiness. Seven-nine, breakfast time, seven-nine!"

"In the kitchen the breakfast stove gave a hissing sigh and ejected from its warm interior eight pieces of perfectly browned toast, eight eggs sunny side up, sixteen slices of bacon, two coffees, and two cool glasses of milk."

"Today is August 4, 2026," said a second voice from the kitchen ceiling, "in the city of Allendale, California." It repeated the date three times for memory's sake. "Today is Mr. Featherstone's birthday. Today is the anniversary of Tilita's marriage. Insurance is payable, as are the water, gas, and light bills."

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« Reply #6751 on: August 04, 2026, 11:55:27 AM »
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong. It's not a fax with the thermal paper and a phone line that actually dials a number.  It's all somehow software driven, and the faxes are just digitally received and saved, not printed out like in the old days. 
So even though technically it's a fax, it's not like the ones we used to do with the scanning and thermal paper. 

So when's the last time you sent an honest-to-goodness, scan, call the number, feed the paper, get a confirmation page fax? For me, probably around the year 2000, +/- 3 years. 

First part: A medical office faxing anything is using a dedicated fax line serviced by their phone company.  If the phone lines go down, they can't send or receive any faxes, even if the internet is still up and everything else within the EMR is accessible.  You're correct that it's software-driven, in that the fax server is integrated with the EMR, but ultimately the EMR is just sending and receiving data via that fax server and its dedicated line.  Whether it's done in the EMR or on an old-school machine, it's dialing a number.  Faxes are "digitally received".....from the fax server, which received them same as they ever did.  As far as thermal paper, I don't know what you're talking about there.  The fax machines I'm familiar with used regular printer paper. 

Second part:  I did it every day when I worked at my wife's clinic.  Our setup--admittedly a little behind the times because the doc who owned the clinic wouldn't spring for the setup necessary to send faxes from the EMR, only receive them--required all referrals, requests, and records-sharing to go through an old school fax machine.  I logged countless hours standing in front of that old thing, trying to make sure it didn't feed more than one paper at a time and thus screw up the entire document transmission.  Fortunately incoming transmissions went to an add-on within the EMR software and we didn't have to gather incoming transmissions from the machine.  Some of the stuff we got was 60, 80, 100 pages.  That would've been a mess.  

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« Reply #6752 on: August 04, 2026, 12:12:05 PM »
Yeah, there are some weird quirks around companies/industries that still use faxes. Attorneys generally don't by choice, but we do when the industry we're working in requires it, which is rare, but not extinct.

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« Reply #6753 on: August 04, 2026, 12:37:53 PM »
It's about security.  Docs and insurance due to HIPAA, and some various government and financial institutions as well.  We had a decent discussion about it once, a couple years back I think. 

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« Reply #6754 on: August 04, 2026, 04:05:30 PM »
Birthdays
1901 Louie Armstrong
1955 Billy Bob Thornton
1961 Barack Obama
1962 Roger Clemens
1971 Jeff Gordon

Events
1693 Date traditionally ascribed to Dom Pérignon's invention of Champagne

1790 United States Revenue Cutter Service is established to serve as an armed customs enforcement service (becoming the US Coast Guard in 1915)

1821 Russian Antarctic expedition led by Fabian Gottlieb von Bellingshausen returns to Kronstadt after being the first to circumnavigate Antarctica

1821 First edition of the American magazine "The Saturday Evening Post"

1855 John Bartlett publishes "Familiar Quotations," a compilation of quotations by 169 authors, including the Bible, William Shakespeare, and the great English poets

1892 Sunday school teacher Lizzie Borden's father and stepmother are murdered with an axe in Fall River, Massachusetts

1910 MLB pitching duel: Philadelphia A's Jack Coombs and White Sox Ed Walsh pitch a 0-0 tie in 16 innings

1914 US President Woodrow Wilson issues his "Proclamation of Neutrality" to keep the United States out of the war in Europe

1917 Pravda calls for the killing of all capitalists, priests, and officers

1918 Adolf Hitler receives the Iron Cross First Class for bravery on the recommendation of his Jewish superior, Lieutenant Hugo Gutmann

1936 American athlete Jesse Owens wins his second gold medal at the Berlin Olympics, defeating German Luz Long in the long jump final with an Olympic record

1944 Anne Frank is arrested in Amsterdam by German Security Police (Grüne Polizei) following a tip-off from an informer who is never identified

1945 Red Sox outfielder Tom McBride drives in an MLB record-tying 6 runs in an inning (4th) during a 15-4 win against Washington

1956 German Wilhelm Herz becomes first to ride a motorcycle over 200 mph (210 mph or 338 km/h) at the Bonneville Salt Flats, Utah

1962 Marilyn Monroe found dead from an apparent rug overdose

1973 New York Yankees pitcher Lindy McDaniel puts in one of the best relief stints in MLB history, entering in the second inning and allowing only one run in 13 innings in a 3-2 win against the Detroit Tigers

1982 Outfielder Joel Youngblood is the only MLB player to get hits for two different teams in two different cities on the same day: singles for the Mets in a Chicago day game, gets traded, then singles for the Expos in a Philadelphia night game

1993 Rwandan Hutus and Tutsis sign a peace treaty in Arusha, Tanzania
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« Reply #6755 on: August 04, 2026, 05:44:31 PM »
Our setup--admittedly a little behind the times because the doc who owned the clinic wouldn't spring for the setup necessary to send faxes from the EMR, only receive them--required all referrals, requests, and records-sharing to go through an old school fax machine. 

Actually, now that I think about it, that's not right.  The EMR sent faxes just fine, the problem was that particular brand couldn't aggregate files from multiple sections within the EMR.  So for example, if I was sending a referral to a specialist, and I needed to get clinical notes from this section and lab results from that section and patient history from yet another section, they all had to be sent separately.  And I had zero faith in the yahoos on the other end to put all that together correctly.  Half the time they couldn't even process a nice, packaged, complete referral that was everything they needed.  So I had to print each file and then fax it all together the old school way, using the fax machine.  

I believe there are other, more expensive systems that can handle that better and let you build a fax from multiple sources, and that's what the doctor would not spring for.  Our EMR was quite a powerful piece of software, I thought, but my understanding was it was way on the cheap side of what those things can cost.  

But if it were a single thing, that was fine.  I faxed imaging orders through the EMR all the time.  Unless, as noted, the phone lines were down.  

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« Reply #6756 on: August 04, 2026, 06:07:28 PM »
1961: Barack Obama was born...but where!?! 
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2006: Shake and Bake!! Talladega Nights, the Legend of Ricky Bobby was released.

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« Reply #6757 on: August 05, 2026, 07:52:36 AM »
1961: Barack Obama was born...but where!?!
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No idea.

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« Reply #6758 on: August 05, 2026, 08:09:57 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Republic of Upper Volta, Now Burkina Faso, Gains Independence (1960)
In the European scramble for African territory in the late 19th century, France took control of the region that is now Burkina Faso. During World War I, however, the area was torn apart by violent opposition to colonial rule. To prevent continued uprisings, it was named a separate territory, Upper Volta, in 1919. When anti-colonial agitation resumed after World War II, the area became a republic, achieving full independence two years later in 1960.
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« Reply #6759 on: August 05, 2026, 08:30:07 AM »
During the late 1920s and 1930s, rigid airships, commonly known as Zeppelins, offered one of the most luxurious ways to travel across Europe. Passengers dined in elegant cabins with white tablecloths, fine china, and attentive service while floating hundreds of feet above the countryside. The journey between Paris and Berlin provided a unique bird's-eye view of cities, rivers, and farmland long before commercial airliners made such travel commonplace.

Zeppelins represented the cutting edge of aviation. Powered by multiple engines and filled with hydrogen gas, they were capable of carrying dozens of passengers in comfort at speeds approaching 80 miles per hour. Although slower than airplanes, they offered an experience more comparable to an ocean liner than a modern flight, complete with lounges, sleeping accommodations, and gourmet meals.

The golden age of passenger airships was relatively brief. Concerns over the use of highly flammable hydrogen, combined with advances in airplane technology, led to their decline during the late 1930s.

The 1937 Hindenburg disaster in Lakehurst, New Jersey, killed 36 people and effectively ended the era of commercial passenger Zeppelins, shifting the future of long-distance air travel to fixed-wing aircraft.


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« Reply #6760 on: August 06, 2026, 07:53:31 AM »
Birthdays
1881 Alexander Fleming, discovered penicillin
1911 Lucille Ball
1917 Robert Mitchum, American actor
1928 Andy Warhol
1961 David Robinson

Events
1661 The Treaty of The Hague is signed, under which the Dutch Republic relinquishes its claims to Dutch Brazil to Portugal in exchange for the equivalent of 63 metric tons of gold

1806 Emperor Francis II renounces his imperial title while remaining Emperor of Austria thereby dissolving the Holy Roman Empire, described by Voltaire as "in no way holy, nor Roman, nor an empire"

1890 Future Hall of Fame pitcher Cy Young makes his MLB debut, throwing a 3-hitter for the Cleveland Spiders in an 8-1 win over the Chicago Colts at League Park in Cleveland

1890 Murderer William Kemmler becomes the first person executed by electric chair at Auburn Prison in New York

1914 Denis Patrick Dowd Jr. enlists in the French Foreign Legion, becoming the first American to fight in WWI.

1926 American Gertrude Ederle (20) becomes the first woman to swim across the English Channel from Cap Gris-Nez, France, to Kingsdown, England, in 14 hours and 39 minutes, setting a record for males and females

1941 Detroit Tigers pitcher Al Benton set an enduring Major League Baseball record by hitting two sacrifice bunts in a single inning during an 11-2 rout of the Cleveland Indians at Cleveland's League Park. Benton is know as the only pitcher to have faced Babe Ruth(1934) and Mickey Mantle(1952) and BOTH hit home rins off of him.

1945 An atomic bomb is dropped on the Japanese city of Hiroshima by the US B-29 Superfortress "Enola Gay"

1952 St. Louis Browns veteran pitcher Satchel Paige, 46, becomes the oldest pitcher to win a complete shutout, 1-0 over the Detroit Tigers in 12 innings

1960 Chubby Checker performs "The Twist" on "The Dick Clark Show," starting a worldwide dance craze

1962 Jamaica becomes independent after 300 years of British rule

1967 Future Baseball Hall of Fame third baseman Brooks Robinson of the Baltimore Orioles hits into an MLB-record fourth career triple play

1979 Marcus Hooper, 12, becomes the youngest person to swim across the English Channel - great day for channel swimmers

1989 "Oh! Calcutta!" closes at Edison Theatre, NYC, after 5,959 performances: Broadway’s longest-running musical revue. Actress Shelley Winters,said: “I think on-stage nudity is disgusting, shameful and damaging to all things American. But if I were 22 with a great body, it would be artistic, tasteful, patriotic, and a progressive religious experience!”

1991 Tim Berners-Lee releases files describing his idea for the World Wide Web and debuts WWW as a publicly available service on the internet

1995 Cleveland's major league sports franchises, NFL Browns and MLB Indians, play in Cleveland for the first time on the same day; both lose-White Sox 5, Indians 1; Giants 19, Browns 13 (exhibition) Shocker I tell you - and I was there at the Browns game

1997 Microsoft announces it will invest $150 million in Apple Computer Inc

2011 A helicopter containing members of Navy SEAL Team 6 is shot down in Afghanistan, killing 38

2015 World's largest pinball tournament, Pinburgh, with 700 machines, takes place in Pittsburgh

2018 Chicago police appeal for more help after 66 people are shot in the city in one weekend - Sweet Home Chicago

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« Reply #6761 on: August 06, 2026, 09:03:42 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

US Drops Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima (1945)
After Germany surrendered in May 1945, the Allied forces focused on ending the war in the Pacific. Japan refused to surrender, dismissing the Allies' vows to devastate the country. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima was the first ever dropped on a populated area. At least 130,000 people were killed, injured, or declared missing, and 90 percent of the city was leveled by the blast. Another atomic bomb was dropped on the city of Nagasaki three days later.
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