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« Reply #6706 on: Today at 10:19:22 AM »


I have many of those on hand, plus a lot of 380 Auto.

Need to hit the range (indoor) soon. Been a minute.



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« Reply #6707 on: Today at 11:28:30 AM »
Curiously, the adoption of the 5.56 NATO round as the most common round type in America was rapid and overwhelming. But I don't think the same thing has happened in the handgun market. I presume that .38, 9mm, and .45 are all about equally common these days, with a significant number of .32, .357, and .44 running around, too.

Regardless, when the zombie apocalypse comes: maintain your calm, grab yourself something that shoots .5.56 NATO, and get on a sailboat out at sea.

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« Reply #6708 on: Today at 11:32:52 AM »
Yeah, we have the 556 Nato for the AR. It's a large bullet, as I'm sure you know, having probably fired a few.
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« Reply #6709 on: Today at 11:34:46 AM »
The 9mm round is the single most popular handgun round in the world, including in the U.S. and is used by everyone from federal, state and local law-enforcement agencies to competition shooters.
Popular 9mm ammo types include:
  • Full Metal Jacket (FMJ): 9mm FMJ ammo is, by far, the most common and features a lead bullet encased in copper or another hard metal and are primarily used for target or range shooting.
  • Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP): 9mm jacketed hollow points feature a lead bullet with a hollow point inside but are still encased in copper. These bullets expand on impact, increasing stopping power, and are used by the military, law enforcement, and for self-defense.
Its stopping power and the magazine carry capacity of most guns chambered in the round make it a popular choice for home defense. Its light recoil and accuracy, even out of smaller, shorter barrels, also makes it excellent for defense as well as target shooting.
The use of 9mm handguns like the Beretta M9 and the Sig Sauer M17/M18 by the U.S. military and the venerable Glock 19 by law enforcement has popularized the round.





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« Reply #6710 on: Today at 11:36:42 AM »
Huh. Well, there you go. 5.56 NATO and 9 mm, and a sailboat. Should be all set.

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« Reply #6711 on: Today at 11:39:34 AM »
I know for a while 10 mm was popular with some LEOs, I was told it was "too hot".  The 9 mm seems to be a sweet spot.  State patrols might carry 10, dunno, they used to like .357 because of its penetration, speaking of hot rounds.

My graphic shows how rifle rounds generally are a lot more powerful even with smaller "calibers".

I'll note again how naval and artillery rounds use the term "caliber" to mean something different, barrel length, not width.

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« Reply #6712 on: Today at 11:44:27 AM »
Huh. Well, there you go. 5.56 NATO and 9 mm, and a sailboat. Should be all set.
A couple of rocket launchers would be nice.
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« Reply #6713 on: Today at 11:45:19 AM »
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« Reply #6714 on: Today at 11:50:34 AM »

Yet another 80s movie I've never seen...

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« Reply #6715 on: Today at 12:18:25 PM »
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Fix that. It's a good one.

Sure, rocket launchers would be nice, but I figure the best bet is to stay away from as many people and zombies as possible while still being able to feed and water myself. I'm reasonably confident that a sailboat along a coastline is the best option for that. If you end up in big enough cross hairs, all the 5.56 and rocket launchers in the world won't help you. And I think I'd rather spare the room on my boat for things I need to maintain the boat, and keep myself clothed and fed. The rocket launcher is a poor use of space.

That's my theory. Now if only I owned a boat, a rifle that took 5.56, a handgun that took 9 mm...

[fortunately, I'm not especially worried about the end of civilization as we know it--and if it does come, there will be enough stupid people around who panic that I will be able to find what I need.]
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« Reply #6716 on: Today at 12:24:35 PM »
50 cal:


.50 cal:

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« Reply #6717 on: Today at 12:25:51 PM »
I might want a .50 cal (Ma Duece) on my boat, but mostly for show. Don't want to keep a lot of rounds in the hold, and if I get to the point of actually using it, things are going badly.

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« Reply #6718 on: Today at 12:37:45 PM »
The North Carolina and South Dakota classes had 45 caliber main guns.  Still 16"...

I like the look of the Alaskas myself, and their 12 inchers were pretty potent.

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« Reply #6719 on: Today at 02:04:25 PM »
Those puppies up there are Iowa class: 50 cal. I'm sure you knew that. But yes, it's the length of the barrel, not the size of the shell (propellant was different, though).

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