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Gigem

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« Reply #6748 on: Today at 11:06:06 AM »
Yes to all 20, but fyi, #11 isn't as outdated as some people think.  It's still common practice at medical offices to transmit medical records from one office to another via fax.  Some of their EMR's are connected to the fax line and it has the outward appearance of something like email, but it's still a fax.  And some offices still use plain old fax machines.  Deemed more secure for HIPAA concerns than email systems. 
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong. It's not a fax with the thermal paper and a phone line that actually dials a number.  It's all somehow software driven, and the faxes are just digitally received and saved, not printed out like in the old days.  
So even though technically it's a fax, it's not like the ones we used to do with the scanning and thermal paper.  

So when's the last time you sent an honest-to-goodness, scan, call the number, feed the paper, get a confirmation page fax? For me, probably around the year 2000, +/- 3 years.  

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« Reply #6749 on: Today at 11:07:19 AM »


This day in 2005, these men, save one, were in an AAV that rolled over a large IED.  Travis Williams had been called away to another vehicle as  they were loading up.  Their 28 ton track was flipped over and burned.  Hard to believe time passes, isn't it? 


God bless these men and their families.  
Thank you for your service, and CD, thank you for your sharing.  

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« Reply #6750 on: Today at 11:36:10 AM »
Ray Bradbury's short story There Will Come Soft Rains, about an AI operated house that continues operating well after a nuclear catastrophe kills the family living there, begins with the lines:

"In the living room the voice-clock sang, Tick-tock, seven o'clock, time to get up, time to get up, seven o 'clock! as if it were afraid that nobody would. The morning house lay empty. The clock ticked on, repeating and repeating its sounds into the emptiness. Seven-nine, breakfast time, seven-nine!"

"In the kitchen the breakfast stove gave a hissing sigh and ejected from its warm interior eight pieces of perfectly browned toast, eight eggs sunny side up, sixteen slices of bacon, two coffees, and two cool glasses of milk."

"Today is August 4, 2026," said a second voice from the kitchen ceiling, "in the city of Allendale, California." It repeated the date three times for memory's sake. "Today is Mr. Featherstone's birthday. Today is the anniversary of Tilita's marriage. Insurance is payable, as are the water, gas, and light bills."

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« Reply #6751 on: Today at 11:55:27 AM »
Yes, but correct me if I'm wrong. It's not a fax with the thermal paper and a phone line that actually dials a number.  It's all somehow software driven, and the faxes are just digitally received and saved, not printed out like in the old days. 
So even though technically it's a fax, it's not like the ones we used to do with the scanning and thermal paper. 

So when's the last time you sent an honest-to-goodness, scan, call the number, feed the paper, get a confirmation page fax? For me, probably around the year 2000, +/- 3 years. 

First part: A medical office faxing anything is using a dedicated fax line serviced by their phone company.  If the phone lines go down, they can't send or receive any faxes, even if the internet is still up and everything else within the EMR is accessible.  You're correct that it's software-driven, in that the fax server is integrated with the EMR, but ultimately the EMR is just sending and receiving data via that fax server and its dedicated line.  Whether it's done in the EMR or on an old-school machine, it's dialing a number.  Faxes are "digitally received".....from the fax server, which received them same as they ever did.  As far as thermal paper, I don't know what you're talking about there.  The fax machines I'm familiar with used regular printer paper. 

Second part:  I did it every day when I worked at my wife's clinic.  Our setup--admittedly a little behind the times because the doc who owned the clinic wouldn't spring for the setup necessary to send faxes from the EMR, only receive them--required all referrals, requests, and records-sharing to go through an old school fax machine.  I logged countless hours standing in front of that old thing, trying to make sure it didn't feed more than one paper at a time and thus screw up the entire document transmission.  Fortunately incoming transmissions went to an add-on within the EMR software and we didn't have to gather incoming transmissions from the machine.  Some of the stuff we got was 60, 80, 100 pages.  That would've been a mess.  

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« Reply #6752 on: Today at 12:12:05 PM »
Yeah, there are some weird quirks around companies/industries that still use faxes. Attorneys generally don't by choice, but we do when the industry we're working in requires it, which is rare, but not extinct.

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« Reply #6753 on: Today at 12:37:53 PM »
It's about security.  Docs and insurance due to HIPAA, and some various government and financial institutions as well.  We had a decent discussion about it once, a couple years back I think. 

 

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