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« Reply #742 on: January 23, 2022, 10:12:13 AM »
maybe they only had 9 men on the punt team

the long snapper that was run over on the blocked punt looked like he weighed about 220 pounds
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« Reply #743 on: January 23, 2022, 10:38:10 AM »

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« Reply #744 on: January 23, 2022, 10:50:43 AM »
Rodgers is taking a beating. I like it.
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« Reply #745 on: January 23, 2022, 11:51:48 AM »
Statistically, Rodgers has been a better postseason QB than Brady.  

Completion percentage 
TD/INT ratio 
TD pass %
INT %
YPA
QB rating 

All Rodgers.

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« Reply #746 on: January 23, 2022, 12:16:07 PM »
There's one stat you left out - kind of a biggy
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« Reply #747 on: January 23, 2022, 12:28:28 PM »
There's one stat you left out - kind of a biggy
A lot goes into that one though, right?  Not just how well the QB played.

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« Reply #748 on: January 23, 2022, 01:29:42 PM »
A lot goes into that one though, right?  Not just how well the QB played.
But over 20 years, and multiple roster constructions, and you have one through line...

And FTR, I have said I think Rodgers is the most physically talented QB in NFL history.  But a million dollar arm and a 2 cent head only gets you so far.  I've never seen a whinier on field/court/ice player than him, and I think that mentality is why we are where we are with him.  The Patriots "culture" was Brady.  Say what you want about him, but players respect him.  All different kinds of players.  He has a way of figuring out the Gronks of the world, and the Antonio Browns, and the Randy Mosses.

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« Reply #749 on: January 23, 2022, 01:49:09 PM »
Rodgers can be a douche so it’s easy to pile on him when he loses, but he’s actually been a really good postseason QB.  It’s easy to look at W-L records and assign labels like clutch or choke.  It’s a lazy take.

 Brady has been undeniably great but he’s gotten help too. Brady’s teams on average have given up 20.03 points per game in the playoffs.  Rodgers’ teams about 26.8.  An extra TD to overcome per game makes a difference in playoff success.

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« Reply #750 on: January 23, 2022, 01:55:17 PM »
Rodgers can be is a douche 
nuff said
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« Reply #751 on: January 23, 2022, 02:05:43 PM »
Rodgers can be a douche so it’s easy to pile on him when he loses, but he’s actually been a really good postseason QB.  It’s easy to look at W-L records and assign labels like clutch or choke.  It’s a lazy take.

 Brady has been undeniably great but he’s gotten help too. Brady’s teams on average have given up 20.03 points per game in the playoffs.  Rodgers’ teams about 26.8.  An extra TD to overcome per game makes a difference in playoff success.
It's not a lazy take,60 he didn't deliver after a couple of drives.The intagibles are huge with him, negatively so,he simply comes across like meh,he's got his coin and acts contemptible if demands/requests aren't catered to.Brady could make his own breaks when in crunch time,Rodgers sporadically.I hope he does leave,doubt if he gets another ring.Wasn’t this the Green Bay Packers’ criticism of Aaron? He’s not really a team guy. He’s an Aaron guy. 
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« Reply #752 on: January 23, 2022, 02:40:13 PM »
But over 20 years, and multiple roster constructions, and you have one through line...

And FTR, I have said I think Rodgers is the most physically talented QB in NFL history.  But a million dollar arm and a 2 cent head only gets you so far.  I've never seen a whinier on field/court/ice player than him, and I think that mentality is why we are where we are with him.  The Patriots "culture" was Brady.  Say what you want about him, but players respect him.  All different kinds of players.  He has a way of figuring out the Gronks of the world, and the Antonio Browns, and the Randy Mosses.
That strike me as a bit of an overstatement. 

He's objectively one of the best to ever play that position, and it's not like he's been a BAD postseason QB, but not a particularly exceptional one. And it's fair to say he's not Tom Brady, but no one really is (especially considering Brady's modest physical and pure improvisational talent).

If he was several ticks better as a personality, would he have another title? I dunno, somewhere between maybe and probably, I guess. But in the end, it kinda white washes over two points. 1. Winning a super bowl is freaking hard, and sometimes weird. Drew Brees has one, Jim Plunkett two. No one is singing the praises of two-time winner Ben Roethlisberger above the shoulders. And if you can win a Super Bowl by throwing for 179.7 yards and less than a TD a game (beating the GOAT), there seems to be a bit of randomness to it all. 2. Teams put you in position to win titles. While defenses don't win championships as much anymore, they can lose them. He's has more than a few defenses that didn't make his life easier (like say Brady's first three, at least).

This is all to say that it's kinda random and weird sometimes. Brady was denied titles by hilariously inferior teams, and won titles with inferior teams. Rodgers is very, very good, and it seems unlikely he has some magic cap because he's a schmuck (which he seems to be!), but because that's sometimes how it goes. 

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« Reply #753 on: January 23, 2022, 02:50:39 PM »
It's not a lazy take,60 he didn't deliver after a couple of drives.The intagibles are huge with him, negatively so,he simply comes across like meh,he's got his coin and acts contemptible if demands/requests aren't catered to.Brady could make his own breaks when in crunch time,Rodgers sporadically.I hope he does leave,doubt if he gets another ring.Wasn’t this the Green Bay Packers’ criticism of Aaron? He’s not really a team guy. He’s an Aaron guy.
What do you mean Brady makes his own breaks?  That’s just things people say that have no substance.  I agree in the game last night Rodgers wasn’t particularly great but he wasn’t particularly bad either.

The biggest difference between Brady and Rodgers is when he has a meh game like that his team seems to bail him out more than Rodgers.  And please, if somebody tries to tell me that’s because they like him or respect him more I’ll puke.  Brady’s teams don’t play better defense out of some sense of loyalty to him.  They play better because they are better, or coached better, or whatever.  Green Bay didn’t have special teams breakdowns because Rodgers is moody.

Narratives get created and people just sort of blindly accept them.  I like to look deeper into those sometimes.

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« Reply #754 on: January 23, 2022, 02:53:54 PM »
Rodgers is taking a beating. I like it.
Pretty clear that COVID wasn't the only thing he failed to get immunized from. 


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« Reply #755 on: January 23, 2022, 03:14:23 PM »
What do you mean Brady makes his own breaks?  That’s just things people say that have no substance.  I agree in the game last night Rodgers wasn’t particularly great but he wasn’t particularly bad either.

The biggest difference between Brady and Rodgers is when he has a meh game like that his team seems to bail him out more than Rodgers.  And please, if somebody tries to tell me that’s because they like him or respect him more I’ll puke.  Brady’s teams don’t play better defense out of some sense of loyalty to him.  They play better because they are better, or coached better, or whatever.  Green Bay didn’t have special teams breakdowns because Rodgers is moody.

Narratives get created and people just sort of blindly accept them.  I like to look deeper into those sometimes.
I respect him more really,so hurl away 🤮 he's a gamer,He does he takes the big bucks and and earns it.What did Rodgers do in the 2nd half? the great ones have what he lacks - moxie,the Packers caved into practically every demand he's made.ELA's right,million dollar talent and a 10 cent head.His ridiculous crap last off season - did you pay attention? Then earlier this seaon giving the team and reporters the impression he was immunized when he wasn't.Not dialed in and a Diva
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