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Title: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 29, 2021, 10:12:52 PM
Etienne and now JK Dobbins are both out for the year.  That stinks.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2021, 07:02:03 AM
Bucs look like a well oiled machine.

Trevor Lawerence and Justin Fields are going to be really good. Really. Really. Good.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2021, 04:52:04 PM
Cam Newton cut by the Pats. Belichik named rookie 1st rd QB Mac Jones the starter. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2021, 11:51:39 PM
Cam was never smart enough to be a good NFL QB
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on September 01, 2021, 09:04:47 AM
Michael Thomas out at least the first 6 weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 01, 2021, 12:36:11 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 01, 2021, 12:42:48 PM
Excited to see what Rondale Moore can do in Ryan Gosling offense with both Deandre Hopkins and AJ Green both on the field to take the defense's attention away... 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 01, 2021, 10:43:18 PM
Cam was never smart enough to be a good NFL QB
What? Dude was an MVP.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 01, 2021, 10:44:42 PM
Excited to see what Rondale Moore can do in Ryan Gosling offense with both Deandre Hopkins and AJ Green both on the field to take the defense's attention away...
Oh he's going to be amazing in that offense playing with those guys. Dark-horse OPOY candidate. ROY will probably go to one of the rookie QB's. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2021, 09:54:29 AM
What? Dude was an MVP.
I didn't get to vote
and now he might be out of the league
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 02, 2021, 06:45:02 PM
I didn't get to vote
and now he might be out of the league
I don’t know man. I think anyway you want to slice it, he was an amazing player for a short run there. Unfortunately, his body starting breaking down and betraying him- and one of the things that made him great was his running ability. When that started to go, he just never improved enough as a passer to make up for some loss of his running ability and his physical ability to throw the football. Cam’s arm used to be maybe the strongest in the league. He just wasn’t/isn’t the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The arm strength and the running ability is really what made him great. He’s lost a lot of both of them.

Just goes to show you, being a pocket scientist, field general who has an above average arm but who throws with elite level accuracy, timing, and anticipation trumps all that other stuff. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are clear cut evidence of this. Neither one of them could run a lick and neither one had an elite arm talent in terms of strength/velocity and being able to throw pint point beautiful dimes off their back feet like Rodgers/Mahomes. Probably the two greatest QB’s ever though.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
I don’t know man. I think anyway you want to slice it, he was an amazing player for a short run there. Unfortunately, his body starting breaking down and betraying him- and one of the things that made him great was his running ability. When that started to go, he just never improved enough as a passer to make up for some loss of his running ability and his physical ability to throw the football. Cam’s arm used to be maybe the strongest in the league. He just wasn’t/isn’t the same guy anymore after all the injuries. The arm strength and the running ability is really what made him great. He’s lost a lot of both of them.

Just goes to show you, being a pocket scientist, field general who has an above average arm but who throws with elite level accuracy, timing, and anticipation trumps all that other stuff. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are clear cut evidence of this. Neither one of them could run a lick and neither one had an elite arm talent in terms of strength/velocity and being able to throw pint point beautiful dimes off their back feet like Rodgers/Mahomes. Probably the two greatest QB’s ever though.
I think that was the point. Cam never made his money based on his smarts or his arm/accuracy. He happened to have an amazing season, winning a SB, because his entire skill set was plus. But per FF, he wasn't smart enough to do it once his running ability started trending to average and he started to have injury issues due to all the running.

I notice you leave Brees off your list of Peyton/Brady. Brees had all the pocket scientist, field general qualities and threw with elite level accuracy. He had sneaky good running ability, though. He would never be described as a "running QB", but he was elusive in the pocket and very smart about when to scramble for yards. It was just one more thing defenses needed to worry about, and one more thing was enough.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 07:11:26 PM
This Cam talk is idiocy.

When should Cam Newton have relied on his pocket scientist/field generalness (whatever the fuck THAT means)????
Should he have thrown the ball softer? 
Should he have refused to scramble for first downs? 
When?
In HS?
College?
On his way to the SB?
.
Fucking idiocy. 
And so without his physical tools, he's not smart enough?  What!?  
You succeed with the tools you have.  When they're gone, you're no longer effective.  
Let's give ole Tom Terrific there an eye patch.  Let's see how great he is then.  I bet he won't be smart enough to be a good NFL QB.
Oh, I know, let's give Peyton Manning downs syndrome!!!  Yes!!  Let's take his intellect away and see how he performs!!!
.
Saying Cam Newton isn't good because he's not smart enough is lazy as hell.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 07:20:08 PM
OAM,

Nobody is saying that Cam shouldn't have maximized his advantages while he had them. 

The problem is that his skill set, that relied so much on running the ball, has a shelf life. Simply put, it's hard to play that way, to absorb that many hits, and to also have a long career.

Cam got old, and couldn't continue to play the way that made him successful as his injuries went up. And he's got no plan B. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 07:22:21 PM
No one with his tools would have a plan B, and that's what makes it lazy to say he should have.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 07:25:56 PM
No one with his tools would have a plan B, and that's what makes it lazy to say he should have.

Does he want to stay in the NFL?

If not, he needs no Plan B.

If so, he's got very little market value for staying, because he doesn't have a Plan B.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 07:29:07 PM
Here, in Bill James' big historical abstract book, he posits that baseball players like Kirby Puckett probably have to be better than average to even get to the big leagues and that MLB players with that body type are probably all above-average because scouts would always argue against them.  They had to overcome that to eventually "make it."

I sort of see the same thing with all-time great QBs - Montana didn't have a special arm or running ability, Brady didn't, Manning didn't, and Brees didn't (esp post-shoulder injury). 
Favre did, Marino did, and some others, but they're not considered to be the best in hushed tones over an open fire. 
The magical ones are - the ones with guile and happenstance and sheer will....you know, the silliness people come up with when discussing NFL QBs. 

Those guys who just had a "good enough" arm HAD to do more in order to be good or great.  If Peyton Manning's dad was a truck driver, he'd have been a decent college QB that most of us kind of remember.  He HAD to be a deep-dive football nerd son-of-a-player who could call his own game in order to "make it." 
.
But alas, this is why I usually steer clear of NFL stuff, because the backwards horseshit way QBs are considered drives me insane.  As if 80% of their careers isn't determined by sheer luck.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2021, 07:40:33 PM
Here, in Bill James' big historical abstract book, he posits that baseball players like Kirby Puckett probably have to be better than average to even get to the big leagues and that MLB players with that body type are probably all above-average because scouts would always argue against them.  They had to overcome that to eventually "make it."

I sort of see the same thing with all-time great QBs - Montana didn't have a special arm or running ability, Brady didn't, Manning didn't, and Brees didn't (esp post-shoulder injury). 
Favre did, Marino did, and some others, but they're not considered to be the best in hushed tones over an open fire. 
The magical ones are - the ones with guile and happenstance and sheer will....you know, the silliness people come up with when discussing NFL QBs. 

Those guys who just had a "good enough" arm HAD to do more in order to be good or great.  If Peyton Manning's dad was a truck driver, he'd have been a decent college QB that most of us kind of remember.  He HAD to be a deep-dive football nerd son-of-a-player who could call his own game in order to "make it." 
.
But alas, this is why I usually steer clear of NFL stuff, because the backwards horseshit way QBs are considered drives me insane.  As if 80% of their careers isn't determined by sheer luck.
So, at the highest level, the ability to succeed is more dependent on football IQ rather than raw physical talent.

And this is a problem? 

Please explain. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 02, 2021, 07:46:44 PM
That's not at all what I suggested.  I guess I should've mocked the rating of NFL QB careers harder than I did.
Honestly, I don't care enough about it to bother.
You're right, I'm wrong.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 02, 2021, 09:50:43 PM
I notice you leave Brees off your list of Peyton/Brady. Brees had all the pocket scientist, field general qualities and threw with elite level accuracy. He had sneaky good running ability, though. He would never be described as a "running QB", but he was elusive in the pocket and very smart about when to scramble for yards. It was just one more thing defenses needed to worry about, and one more thing was enough.
Brees is obviously an all-time great who will walk into the HoF one day. I just happen to think Brady is the best, and Manning probably the 2nd best to ever do it. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 02, 2021, 09:51:52 PM
This Cam talk is idiocy.

When should Cam Newton have relied on his pocket scientist/field generalness (whatever the fuck THAT means)????
Should he have thrown the ball softer? 
Should he have refused to scramble for first downs? 
When?
In HS?
College?
On his way to the SB?
.
Fucking idiocy.
And so without his physical tools, he's not smart enough?  What!? 
You succeed with the tools you have.  When they're gone, you're no longer effective. 
Let's give ole Tom Terrific there an eye patch.  Let's see how great he is then.  I bet he won't be smart enough to be a good NFL QB.
Oh, I know, let's give Peyton Manning downs syndrome!!!  Yes!!  Let's take his intellect away and see how he performs!!!
.
Saying Cam Newton isn't good because he's not smart enough is lazy as hell. 
Wtf? You off your meds or something? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 03, 2021, 10:34:20 AM
Steelers Crap 2021:

Thinking the Steelers bottom out and finish as the AFC North’s worst team. Big Ben is ready to collapse. They’re depending their league worst rushing attack on a rookie, Najee Harris. Which is somehow less of a worry than who might effectively block for him.

In the off season Pittsburgh lost FOUR serviceable starters – Matt Feiler, Alejandro Villanueva, and Pro Bowlers Maurkice Pouncey and David DeCastro. Their replacements, if not rookies, are inexperienced depth players, and to make matters worse, projected starter Zach Banner is out next month with knee injuries.

So along with Big Ben past his shelf life, it’s looking like he’ll be passing behind the worst OL he’s ever taken snaps from. And that could render the already overrated WRs almost useless.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 11:14:38 AM
Yeah, at what point do they pull the plug?  The defense is still good enough that they won't be competing for the #1 pick, but they sure look like a 6-10 team to me.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 12:08:29 PM
perhaps my comments regarding Cam were a bit lazy.  I just never liked the guy.  Doesn't seem like he made the best decisions along the way.

things didn't go well for him at Florida, because he made some poor decisions

his father taking money at Auburn is on Cam, sorry if you think his father is to blame.

Cam's decision to protect himself and not try to jump on his own fumble in the super bowl sealed the deal for me.

Acting like Superman one moment and then crying about getting hit the next doesn't fly with me either.

yes, he was a tremendous athlete and had a few very good seasons

imo, he's never been accurate enough to be a top QB in the league

and I don't think he's very bright, sorry
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 03, 2021, 02:38:57 PM
Cam and Ben are the two QBs that, if they had gotten calls like Brady, Manning and Rodgers, would have been nearly unstoppable early in their careers.  Because they sought contact, refs allowed it.  If you coughed too close to Brady, it was a flag, and defenses backed off because of it.

But he was what he was, and his talents were never going to age well.  At least Ben had the cannon arm.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 09, 2021, 10:54:20 PM
Mike McCarthy is awful. That’s all. 

Zeke Elliot looks like he’s in great physical shape. So what does Mike McCarthy do?

Give him like 6 carries through 3 quarters and put that Pollard guy in just as much if not more than Zeke. 

It’s like McCarthy doesn’t realize you can also run the football sometimes. I can see why Rodgers couldn’t wait for him to leave.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 09, 2021, 11:04:35 PM
Zeke just isn't that good, wasn't going to win the game vs the Bucs' defense

neither is Zac, but.... it's a better option
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 09, 2021, 11:06:16 PM
That’s a good point - where is Elliot? Disappeared after the 1st Q. As far as Dak goes, he looks fantastic save for his one interception. Over 331 yards passing going into the 4th and playing with perfect command of the offense. Dak used to be the guy that every Monday morning radio show host would go on and on about never throwing for more than 300 yds in a single game. Maybe Dak is worth his 9 figure contract?

Entertaining Kickoff game so far.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 09, 2021, 11:27:50 PM
Zeke was great, when Dallas had the best offensive line in the league. Their offensive line is horrible now, and he is mediocre. That's not his fault, But I think calling him one of the best running backs in the league was a little premature. He's fine
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 09, 2021, 11:36:12 PM
yup
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 09, 2021, 11:49:08 PM
It's very weird to me that William gholston is still on the Buccaneers. The NFL is a league of quarterbacks with constantly rotating rosters. That he is still in the league, considering his production, I get. But he has to be one of the longest, if not THE longest, tenured defensive players in the league with the same team
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 09, 2021, 11:50:22 PM
Chris Godwin got away with a bad PI there
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 10, 2021, 12:08:51 AM
with a 4-1 turnover margin, the Cowboys were in the game until the end

good work
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 10, 2021, 07:42:49 AM
Wtf? You off your meds or something?
When did he go back on?;D
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 10, 2021, 08:22:15 AM
Chris Godwin got away with a bad PI there
The only thing needed to get reviewed right there was the referee's jobs.I've always felt every play should be reviewable and a team should be able to flag one play or call per qtr - for that reason right there.The networks can break for commercials don't need to watch reviews.With all the technology available the only thing missing is common sense . And knobs like Goodell sit on their arrogant asses in their ivory towers at 50 million a year and do nothing.It's one of the many reasons I've hated the NFL for quite some time
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on September 10, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
Zeke was great, when Dallas had the best offensive line in the league. Their offensive line is horrible now, and he is mediocre. That's not his fault, But I think calling him one of the best running backs in the league was a little premature. He's fine
Agreed.  I want the old o-line and therefore the old Zeke back.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Gigem on September 10, 2021, 09:49:05 AM
I don’t watch the NFL much these days, so my take might be dated. AFAIK Cam never won the SB, he played in it once and got his arse handed to him. Then after the game he cried like a little bitch. 

Orange AfroMan:  I’m not sure why you always go nuclear when someone disagrees with you. There is a lot of people like myself that never cared for Cam Newton for all kinds of reasons. There’s a lot of people that believe that many, many QBs are just like him:  they use their other physical skills, like running, to have big careers early on, and then once repeated physical contact and injuries take their toll their career is over because they always lacked the pure passing ability of more successful, longer lived QBs like Brady and Manning. RG3, VY, JFF, and lots of others fall into this category. 

Just saying that Manning came from a football family is not near enough and IMO does him a major disservice. There are lots and lots of football families out there yet you never hear about Johnny Montana or Dave Marino ( fake names of course). Luck plays a part, certainly as well as genetics and a host of other factors but I think we all can agree that the #1 quality is hard work and determination. 

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 10, 2021, 10:01:13 AM
Mike McCarthy is awful. That’s all.

Zeke Elliot looks like he’s in great physical shape. So what does Mike McCarthy do?

Give him like 6 carries through 3 quarters and put that Pollard guy in just as much if not more than Zeke.

It’s like McCarthy doesn’t realize you can also run the football sometimes. I can see why Rodgers couldn’t wait for him to leave.
Bucs defense only allowed two players over 60 yards in a game rushing in all of 2020. 

You have to throw to beat them.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rolltidefan on September 10, 2021, 10:16:34 AM
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burfict and adam jones cost aj mccarron this stat a couple years back. i'll take mac or tua though. hurts is just on a worse team and though i love him i'm not sold on him being a long term nfl qb. hope i'm wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 10, 2021, 04:27:22 PM
I don’t watch the NFL much these days, so my take might be dated. AFAIK Cam never won the SB, he played in it once and got his arse handed to him. Then after the game he cried like a little bitch.

Orange AfroMan:  I’m not sure why you always go nuclear when someone disagrees with you. 


So when I disagree and provide actual support for my opinions, that's "going nuclear?"

The poster basically ended up agreeing with me that his analysis was lazy and that he never liked Newton.  But I went nuclear.  Mkay.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 10, 2021, 04:32:13 PM
So when I disagree and provide actual support for my opinions, that's "going nuclear?"

The poster basically ended up agreeing with me that his analysis was lazy and that he never liked Newton.  But I went nuclear.  Mkay.

No, it's more like this...

"I know people..."
"There are studies..."
"People are saying..."

These are the phrases used by people failing at pretending to be valid. 
They're not valid.
Ignore them.

I have skepticism to the claims made in that thread, but I managed to express them and press for additional information without being a douche. 

You... Not so much. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 13, 2021, 11:25:17 AM
to recap:

Matt Stafford is actually really good. Rams are going to go deep into the playoffs now that they have an actual QB. And now that Stafford is on an actual team people will see that he's actually pretty damn awesome.

Jared Goff still sucks. So does Carson Wentz. How did these guys ever get hype/fat contracts? They both suck at football. I'd throw Josh Allen into this group as well. Oh and as usual Lions suck.

Aaron Rodgers seems to have mailed it in. You know that old saying- when you talk about retiring- you're already retired? I don't think he's all there in Green Bay anymore. He wanted out- didn't get his way- seems like he just doesn't care anymore. Jameis surprisingly threw for 5 TD's and no INT's vs the Packers.

Bill Belichik now 7-10 post Brady. Basically the same type of coach and win % he was before Brady. Mac Jones had a high completion percentage but it was literally all dink and dunk. Not a believer in Mac Jones. I thought Tua played better. I think Tua has potential to be big-time if he cleans up his game a little bit.

Speaking of the Lions- hated the Okudah pick then, hate it even more now. Okudah had a blow-up on the sideline after he was clearly disrespecting his CB's coach and then the CB's coach went ape-shit on him. Okudah ruptured his achilles and is done for the year. I always thought he was a pretty good college CB, not an otherworldly one like a Charles Woodson, Deion Sanders, Patrick Peterson, or Champ Bailey. You don't take guys that are just pretty good college CB's at #3 overall. You can only take otherworldly ones that high in my opinion. And Okudah was never even close to that.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 11:57:34 AM
to recap:

Matt Stafford is actually really good. Rams are going to go deep into the playoffs now that they have an actual QB. And now that Stafford is on an actual team people will see that he's actually pretty damn awesome.

Jared Goff still sucks. So does Carson Wentz. How did these guys ever get hype/fat contracts? They both suck at football.
Well Wentz certainly looked like all that his rookie season until he tore his acl up late season ironically vs the Rams.He's had some injuries and now a broken foot,sure in the big picture he obviously has been incredibly overpaid,though sans the injuries I wouldn't say he SUX.And Goff had 338 yds with 3 tds and 1 pk putting up 33 pts yesterday 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 02:00:29 PM
I don’t know man. I think anyway you want to slice it, he was an amazing player for a short run there. Unfortunately, his body starting breaking down and betraying him- 
Oh really? He gets a pass but Wentz gets a knee destroyed(as a Rookie)and he SUX.Makes sense
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 02:10:46 PM

Nobody is saying that Cam shouldn't have maximized his advantages while he had them.

The problem is that his skill set, that relied so much on running the ball, has a shelf life. Simply put, it's hard to play that way, to absorb that many hits, and to also have a long caree

Ya that's how i feel about Lamar Jackson,exciting,elusive and decent when the run sets up the pass.Just the deeper in the season ya go good defenses adjust.So you have to thread the needle
I think that was the point. Cam never made his money based on his smarts or his arm/accuracy. He happened to have an amazing season, winning a SB
Huh? did i miss something?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 13, 2021, 02:29:41 PM
Ya that's how i feel about Lamar Jackson,exciting,elusive and decent when the run sets up the pass.Just the deeper in the season ya go good defenses adjust.So you have to thread the needleHuh? did i miss something?
I think Lamar has a skill similar to Alvin Kamara--you rarely get a square hit on him. 

My mistake on the SB thing--I thought he had one. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 02:43:33 PM
The thing is Cam could start following a Brady type conditioning and diet program.And get a few more cracks at it.He just can't scarff down things you put in pictures
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 13, 2021, 02:45:31 PM
No, it's more like this...

I have skepticism to the claims made in that thread, but I managed to express them and press for additional information without being a douche.

You... Not so much.
Well I find it douchey that people choose to have the discussion, but do so lazily.  I'm such a jerk.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 13, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
Oh really? He gets a pass but Wentz gets a knee destroyed(as a Rookie)and he SUX.Makes sense
Cam won a league MVP, was a ROY & set all kinds of rookie passing records, took his teams deep to the playoffs yearly and even took his team to a Super Bowl. When did Wentz do any of this? 

Wentz to me always kinda sucked. He's just as liable to make a play for the other team as his own. And he's always been like that.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 06:01:43 PM
He appeared to be on his way when his knee was whacked and Philly still wenzt ;D on to win a SB.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 13, 2021, 08:06:58 PM
He appeared to be on his way when his knee was whacked and Philly still wenzt ;D on to win a SB.
Philly got better and won a Super Bowl without him. Foles played out of his mind in the playoffs. Not sure they even get there with Wentz in the line-up.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2021, 08:16:42 PM
Ya they do you said you didn't drink,well your memory is failing,he was impressive his 2nd season.I  must be drunk as i read Wentz was suppose to be out 12 weeks,well he played yesterday
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 13, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
Charles woodson is too much of a raiders legend, to have to sit next to Al Davis's embarrassment of a child
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 13, 2021, 09:42:59 PM
Charles woodson is too much of a raiders legend, to have to sit next to Al Davis's embarrassment of a child
LMAO
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 13, 2021, 10:25:57 PM
basically like 60% of the Chiefs offense...


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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 14, 2021, 12:07:02 AM
Raiders win in OT
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 16, 2021, 12:27:15 PM
I think Lamar has a skill similar to Alvin Kamara--you rarely get a square hit on him.

My mistake on the SB thing--I thought he had one.
Russell Wilson does this better than any QB I have ever seen. Knows when to slide, also feels pressure well and starts falling in the opposite direction when he knows he can't escape and he'll be hit. And he's played w/ some really really bad OLs in his career. 

Jackson does have self-preservation awareness but will take the occasional unnecessary risk. He also has designed runs up the middle. 

The guy who IMO will have the shortest shelf life. Josh Allen. He's big + tall. Its hard to tackle him high so players are diving at his knees when he hits open field. Not to mention he's their best RB and has that RG3 gonna wreck my body gene in him. The Bills rarely run play action. So you can just hone your front 6-7 right on on Allen and ignore the RBs. The Steelers have a good D, but they made him look terrible b/c its easy to just key on 1 player (even Pat Mahomes has a running and good play action game). 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 16, 2021, 01:22:33 PM
Yeah, a QB taking on LBs in the run game is NOT the TB12 method lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 16, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
Yeah, a QB taking on LBs in the run game is NOT the TB12 method lol.
Not a good idea to take on NFL LB's lol. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on September 16, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
The Steelers really didn't have blitz to pressure Allen either.  The front 4 did more than enough on their own, allowing the LBs to drop into coverage or play containment.  3 sacks on the day.

The rumors of the Steelers demise were greatly exaggerated.  TJ Watt is an absolute animal.  Best defensive player in the league.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 17, 2021, 09:19:45 AM
The Steelers really didn't have blitz to pressure Allen either.  The front 4 did more than enough on their own, allowing the LBs to drop into coverage or play containment.  3 sacks on the day.

The rumors of the Steelers demise were greatly exaggerated.  TJ Watt is an absolute animal.  Best defensive player in the league.

Yes, and Ben was the worst QB by PFF in Week 1 I believe I saw.  So the whole thing was "Ben is washed".  Well, yes, he is.  But they just beat probably the preseason #2 team in the AFC with him being the worst QB in the league.  That's not a recipe for winning big, but with as injured as Baltimore is, Cincy still maybe a year away, and the Browns the perpetual "I'll believe it when they actually win a division title", I wouldn't be shocked to see a 10-7 type Pittsburgh team win the division.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 17, 2021, 09:22:59 AM
The Steelers really didn't have blitz to pressure Allen either.  The front 4 did more than enough on their own, allowing the LBs to drop into coverage or play containment.  3 sacks on the day.

The rumors of the Steelers demise were greatly exaggerated.  TJ Watt is an absolute animal.  Best defensive player in the league.
Steelers have a sick defense. They will keep them in every game. It's a Super Bowl caliber defense but it's held back by the offense. Ben is absolutely washed up and that OL is stank. I like that Najee Harris draft pick and the WR's are pretty good, but without a good OL and with a washed up QB- that superb defense is going to be wasted. They ain't going anywhere even if they make it to the playoffs.

Also think Bills might be overrated. Not buying that hype train. Never was. Josh Allen to me just isn't that good. Very overrated.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 17, 2021, 10:09:01 AM
The nice thing about being on the West Coast is that a completely useless game between two teams that suck, such as last night's game between the NY Giants and the Washington Redskins Proper Mascot Name Football Team started at 5:20 and finished up just before 9 PM.

It was actually quite an exciting game, and a wild finish. Folks on the East Coast, unless they're either NYG or WTF WFT fans, probably went to bed instead of staying up until midnight to watch it. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 17, 2021, 10:32:26 AM
NFC East Crap 2021:

Had the Giants picked to win their division this season based on their well-rounded roster. But thanks to last night’s loss to the Redskins I realize my mistake. Position by position the Giants don’t have glaring holes, but unlike the Cowboys whose explosive playmakers can carry their team, or the Redskins whose front seven can carry the team, or the Eagles whose solid trenches make up for uncertainty elsewhere, the Giants don’t have a unit (especially QB) capable of raising the rest of the team above adversity.

The Giants might finish dead last in the division which is a shame given Gettleman’s careful drafting and acquisitions these past two seasons.

Meanwhile, for as little as I expected of the Eagles going into the season, Philadelphia had one of the better Week 1 wins. The lines dominated the Falcons in the trenches. Jalen Hurts was superb at keeping the Falcon’s defense on its toes with the dual threat of both his feet and arm. And when things were looking good, the Eagles kept their foot on the gas, piling on 17 more points in the second half to bury Atlanta 32-6.

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1438719195370311683
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on September 17, 2021, 11:58:15 AM
Yes, and Ben was the worst QB by PFF in Week 1 I believe I saw.  So the whole thing was "Ben is washed".  Well, yes, he is.  But they just beat probably the preseason #2 team in the AFC with him being the worst QB in the league.

Im sceptical of that PFF grade.

Two QBs:
18/32 188 yards 1 TD 0 INT, won 23-16
15/28 133 yards 0 TD 2 INT, lost 38-3
PFF graded the 2nd QB higher.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 19, 2021, 01:57:16 PM
Steelers: D is top 3, maybe the best the in the league. 

Offense is bottom 8 

which prob means 9-8 or 8-9 season. Sched is tough. 



Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 19, 2021, 02:00:31 PM
"Tyrod we never expected you to start the season at 3-0 (Jacksonville next week I think). Its interfering w/ our long term goals. We need to try the other guy." 

which would fit perfectly into his career arc. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 19, 2021, 04:14:24 PM
Tua goes out has to get carted off the field early 1st qtr and Bills go on the route, 35-0. Tua looking more and more like he's made of glass. Kinda sucks cause I think he can play.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 19, 2021, 04:20:57 PM
Jameis back to being Jameis. Last week vs the Packers was a fluke. Jameis throws 2 picks while Carolina beats up the Saints 26-7. Sam Darnold looking solid and has the Panthers 2-0. Maybe it was the Jets and not him lol? Speaking of the Jets they got beat up by the Patriots 25-6 and the rookie Wilson threw 4 INT's vs Belichik's defense.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 19, 2021, 04:37:58 PM
Always liked Darnold,watched interviews a while back and he seemed dialed in.Hope he has found a home.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Abba on September 20, 2021, 09:07:24 AM
Yeah I liked him the best of the QBs in his draft at the time.  I just think he got put in a very unfriendly situation w/ the Jets.  Seeing Zach Wilson is having some similar problems so far as well.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2021, 10:16:11 AM
Forget fastest QBs ever. Lamar Jackson might be the fastest player I've ever seen. He is so fricken fast and elusive, it's insane that he plays QB. He's faster than Vick.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 20, 2021, 12:45:53 PM
I have to admit as one who usually does not get all that excited about the NFL, the several games I watched yesterday were incredibly exciting to watch.

As I have said here before, if you asked me why I don’t find NFL football as exciting I actually couldn’t give you a specific answer. It’s just always seem like the players are so good they cancel each other out and you don’t see the big chunk gains an exciting place that you see with college football.

But yesterday I watched the Dallas versus the chargers game which was amazing and then last night I watched the ravens versus the Chiefs.

Both of those games were extremely entertaining and kept my interest from start to finish which usually does not happen with NFL games for me like college football does.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Temp430 on September 20, 2021, 12:47:28 PM
Tampa Bay looked like a Super Bowl contender.  That wasn't the case last year at this time.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 20, 2021, 03:00:49 PM
Because I believe Purdue was not on MSU's schedule the past two years, I'm sad we were robbed of Rondale Moore.  He is already a gamechanger in that Arizona offense.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2021, 03:10:06 PM
Because I believe Purdue was not on MSU's schedule the past two years, I'm sad we were robbed of Rondale Moore.  He is already a gamechanger in that Arizona offense.
knew he was going to be a problem in that offense. D-Hop is a dominant #1, AJ Green on the downside of his storied career but can still play at high level in spurts, Christian Kirk pretty decent #3. Moore going to get lot of 1-on-1’s with safeties and linebackers who have zero chance of covering him.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 20, 2021, 04:57:45 PM
Exactly. Moore had basically one year for Purdue, and that year Moore was essentially Purdue's entire offense. Which means that teams knew that they had to account for Rondale Moore, and basically only Rondale Moore, on every play...

...and most still failed to contain him. 

Michigan State tried to double team him and take him out of the game, and he still went 11/74/0.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2021, 11:42:02 PM
well, Lions made it interesting....for a half. 

Rodgers & his Pack of merry men spank the sad sack of shit Detroit Lions 35-17. Who saw that one coming, right? Lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2021, 11:51:30 PM
I have to admit as one who usually does not get all that excited about the NFL, the several games I watched yesterday were incredibly exciting to watch.

As I have said here before, if you asked me why I don’t find NFL football as exciting I actually couldn’t give you a specific answer. It’s just always seem like the players are so good they cancel each other out and you don’t see the big chunk gains an exciting place that you see with college football.

But yesterday I watched the Dallas versus the chargers game which was amazing and then last night I watched the ravens versus the Chiefs.

Both of those games were extremely entertaining and kept my interest from start to finish which usually does not happen with NFL games for me like college football does.

Yeah I'm afraid the Cowboys are gonna be the cardiac kids this year and make every game close.  They lost by 2 to Tampa Bay last week, and beat the Chargers by 3 this week.  Gonna be a gut-wrenching year for Dallas fans, I think.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 21, 2021, 12:02:44 AM
Yeah I'm afraid the Cowboys are gonna be the cardiac kids this year and make every game close.  They lost by 2 to Tampa Bay last week, and beat the Chargers by 3 this week.  Gonna be a gut-wrenching year for Dallas fans, I think.
Fortunately for the Cowgirls they play in the Least and should run away with that god awful division. Dak looks really good and that WR crew is no joke.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 21, 2021, 11:40:26 AM
Is Pittsburgh’s Week 1 win Vs Buffalo an oddity? We’re only two games into the season but the Steelers are getting outgained by the opponent’s offense by an average of just over 100 more yards. And worse, Big Ben looks older and his OL looks slower into the latter stages of each game, which can’t bode well when there’s so little support from the ground game, so far averaging only 57 yds/game – good for dead last in the NFL. Drafting Najee Harris at Running Back is doing more for the passing game the rushing game at this point – 43 yds receiving Vs 38 yds rushing this past Sunday Vs the Raiders.

Defense will only carry this body bag of an offense so far. Loser of this Sunday’s upcoming Steelers-Bengals showdown finishes last in the division.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
Just to add on to that Moore discussion, about guys we didn't get to see in the Big Ten last year, how about Dallas putting Micah Parsons at defensive end for the first time since high school, and he goes out and dominates. Through two weeks the offensive and defensive rookies of the year could be two big 10 players who opted out last year
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 21, 2021, 12:52:12 PM
Just to add on to that Moore discussion, about guys we didn't get to see in the Big Ten last year, how about Dallas putting Micah Parsons at defensive end for the first time since high school, and he goes out and dominates. Through two weeks the offensive and defensive rookies of the year could be two big 10 players who opted out last year
Moore didn't opt out. He said he was going to and then came back. 

Unfortunately he missed the first 3 games of the year as he tweaked a lower body injury and then only got 3 games because Purdue lost 2 of their scheduled 8 due to COVID. At that point Purdue's season was in a tailspin, the defense was toast, and it was a screwy season in so many ways.

In those three games, he notched 35 catches for 270 yards (no TD's) and 6 rushes for 32 yards. No TDs though. Definitely pretty solid stats in general, but all three games were losses (to MN, Rutger, and UNL) and nobody gave a crap about what Purdue was doing at that point so nobody watched. It paled in comparison to his opening salvo of 313 all-purpose yards against Nebraska in the 2018 opener and embarrassing the entire Ohio State defense on national TV in a night game in 2018. 

Those games were so immaterial that you'd forgotten that he hadn't opted out, but 35 catches for 270 yards is not like he didn't perform.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on September 21, 2021, 01:25:44 PM
Fortunately for the Cowgirls they play in the Least and should run away with that god awful division. Dak looks really good and that WR crew is no joke.

Washington is probably still a little better than Dallas, I'd expect them to win the division again.  But when all the teams are this bad, surprises happen.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2021, 01:40:05 PM
Moore didn't opt out. He said he was going to and then came back.

Unfortunately he missed the first 3 games of the year as he tweaked a lower body injury and then only got 3 games because Purdue lost 2 of their scheduled 8 due to COVID. At that point Purdue's season was in a tailspin, the defense was toast, and it was a screwy season in so many ways.

In those three games, he notched 35 catches for 270 yards (no TD's) and 6 rushes for 32 yards. No TDs though. Definitely pretty solid stats in general, but all three games were losses (to MN, Rutger, and UNL) and nobody gave a crap about what Purdue was doing at that point so nobody watched. It paled in comparison to his opening salvo of 313 all-purpose yards against Nebraska in the 2018 opener and embarrassing the entire Ohio State defense on national TV in a night game in 2018.

Those games were so immaterial that you'd forgotten that he hadn't opted out, but 35 catches for 270 yards is not like he didn't perform.
I definitely forgot he played last year, lol
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on September 21, 2021, 05:35:29 PM
Is Pittsburgh’s Week 1 win Vs Buffalo an oddity? We’re only two games into the season but the Steelers are getting outgained by the opponent’s offense by an average of just over 100 more yards. And worse, Big Ben looks older and his OL looks slower into the latter stages of each game, which can’t bode well when there’s so little support from the ground game, so far averaging only 57 yds/game – good for dead last in the NFL. Drafting Najee Harris at Running Back is doing more for the passing game the rushing game at this point – 43 yds receiving Vs 38 yds rushing this past Sunday Vs the Raiders.

Defense will only carry this body bag of an offense so far. Loser of this Sunday’s upcoming Steelers-Bengals showdown finishes last in the division.

The Steelers are breaking in a brand new OL with a couple rookie starters.  One of the would be starters was injured prior to the season. It's going to take until week 8 or so to get that together.

The defense was missing 4 starters vs LV.  Watt, Bush, and Haden were new to that list.

Its hard to overcome those things.  This is going to be the opposite of last year's 11-0 start.  This team will get hot late in the season.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 23, 2021, 10:40:11 AM
For my NFL Survivor Pool I’m picking the Panthers over the Texans tonight as my lock of the week.

Without Tyrod Taylor (not to mention Deshaun Watson) the Texans are starting rookie Davis Mills who only made about a dozen unremarkable starts while at Stanford before getting drafted mostly due to his physical build.

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1382848085475405826
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2021, 04:08:48 AM
don't look now but Panthers 3-0 with impressive back-to-back 19 pt & 15 pt wins over the Saints and Texans.

Wasn't sure they'd get 3 wins all-season. Already there at 3-0 and Darnold has looked much better than I thought possible. Maybe the Jets really are just one of those Detroit Lions like franchises that brings all the players down and are just a sad sack of shit franchise.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 24, 2021, 08:39:05 AM
Good for Sam one of the good guys
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 24, 2021, 09:56:38 AM
don't look now but Panthers 3-0 with impressive back-to-back 19 pt & 15 pt wins over the Saints and Texans.

Wasn't sure they'd get 3 wins all-season. Already there at 3-0 and Darnold has looked much better than I thought possible. Maybe the Jets really are just one of those Detroit Lions like franchises that brings all the players down and are just a sad sack of shit franchise.
How bad is the CMC injury?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 26, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
watching this Saints-New England game. Not really sold on Mac Jones. At all.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 02:03:21 PM
the lions unis make them somehow more unwatchable. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 26, 2021, 02:06:06 PM
Chargers up 14-0 on the Chiefs 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 04:07:41 PM
I gotta give credit to Goff he's tryin to make this work 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 04:10:33 PM
foot god from 66.........and its good OMG 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 26, 2021, 04:11:48 PM
Didn't look like Ravens got the prior play off in time.  Should have been 71 yard attempt.  But Lions deserve to lose for that 4th and 19 defense
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 26, 2021, 04:14:38 PM
Didn't look like Ravens got the prior play off in time.  Should have been 71 yard attempt.  But Lions deserve to lose for that 4th and 19 defense
Ok,I'm not crazy

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1442219728274182144?s=19

https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1442220529080061952?s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 04:50:35 PM
Didn't look like Ravens got the prior play off in time.  Should have been 71 yard attempt.  But Lions deserve to lose for that 4th and 19 defense
66 yards is too easy in a dome for him, been wanting him to try from 70
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 04:53:25 PM
yikes

(https://i.postimg.cc/QCLtnfMn/Screen-Shot-2021-09-26-at-1-50-02-PM.png)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 26, 2021, 05:51:33 PM
Haskins was the one OSU QB I had faith in, making it in the NFL  Once he failed, I was set that the rest would
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on September 26, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
Haskins was the one OSU QB I had faith in, making it in the NFL  Once he failed, I was set that the rest would

# Bill Barnwell
#
# When we were all like "How can the Bears pretend that Justin Fields isn’t a better option than Andy Dalton?" we didn’t realize that the Bears were going to use Justin Fields as if he were Andy Dalton

speaking of offense, beware our lethal down the field passing game

Najee harris: 14 catches for 104 yards

good gawd the bears-steelers play each other this season.   
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 26, 2021, 08:21:45 PM
Bears had 47 total yards.....on 42 plays. 
They committed 44 yards in penalties.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 26, 2021, 08:37:30 PM
Haskins was the one OSU QB I had faith in, making it in the NFL  Once he failed, I was set that the rest would
The difference between Fields and Haskins is Mars and Venus.

Fields is actually a student of the game, a hard worker, a good teammate, and very focused. And actually a much better passer and a much better athlete on top of all that.

Poor kid was thrown to the wolves today. The Chicago bears offensive line is horrible to begin with but then they think they can block Myles Garrett one on one.  He was in the backfield more often than not before Fieds even got the ball in his hands. Sacked 9 Times    

if you’re going to judge people this early then you have to also say Trevor Lawrence is a bust as well as Zach Wilson. 

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 26, 2021, 08:50:37 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/opinion-bears-put-justin-fields-in-position-to-fail-just-like-they-ve-done-with-previous-qbs/ar-AAOQCgt
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 26, 2021, 10:07:26 PM
Ya Browns @ home and actually pretty good. Fields hopefully doesn't end up on the IR
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 27, 2021, 12:18:27 AM
It's the damn Bears. They're on their 73rd starting QB in the last 25 years. It's where QB talent goes to die.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 27, 2021, 06:54:42 AM
Yes if you look at Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence and Justin fields they all got smoked yesterday 

Not everyone can sit behind a starter for a season or two or three and learn like Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers got to do.   

Peyton Manning through 28 interceptions in his first season and Troy Aikman through 36 in his first two seasons so sometimes you wonder if it’s better to just let them go out there and get beat up and learn.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2021, 08:06:24 AM
Yes if you look at Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence and Justin fields they all got smoked yesterday

Not everyone can sit behind a starter for a season or two or three and learn like Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers got to do. 

Peyton Manning through 28 interceptions in his first season and Troy Aikman through 36 in his first two seasons so sometimes you wonder if it’s better to just let them go out there and get beat up and learn.
Rodgers & Mahomes are the two most talented QB's I've ever seen. And both of them rode the bench before they got in there. Might be something to that, to bring a guy along slowly. NFL QB is hardest position to play in all of sports. Probably not a bad idea to ease the guy into that. Put them in too soon and you risk them getting beat up and their confidence shattered.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2021, 08:14:28 AM
by the way- this young NFL season has been fantastic. There have been so many amazing down to the wire last minute games. 

Bucs-Cowboys
Ravens-Raiders 
Ravens-Chiefs
Ravens-Lions
Chargers-Chiefs
Packers-49ers

Just been some incredible games this year and we're only 3 weeks in. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
Matt Stafford went ape-shit on the Bucs defense and threw it all over the field on them. Stafford showing the world that yeah- it was the Lions- and not him. Not that I ever had a single doubt about that for even a second. The Lions are a sad sack of shit- and the fact that he was actually good there a little mind-blowing honestly. He was by the far the only good QB the Lions have ever had since I've been watching. Just nice to see the narrative that Stafford "can't beat a good team" and was part of the problem get smoked this year. 

Stafford is an NFL Hall of Fame level talent. Only handful of guys have ever been able to spin it better than him. Literally probably only Marino & Rodgers, maybe Mahomes and maybe Elway.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2021, 08:20:29 AM
Haskins was the one OSU QB I had faith in, making it in the NFL  Once he failed, I was set that the rest would
Haskins had the best arm of any OSU QB that I've ever seen and that 50 TD pass season was nuts. He should've been a good NFL QB. I think Fields will be good in NFL. Just needs to get out of that Bears situation. Sam Darnold looks like a completely different guy away from the Jets and Adam Gase. Matt Nagy is a joke of a coach just like Adam Gase was/is.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 27, 2021, 08:24:59 AM
Peyton Manning through 28 interceptions in his first season and Troy Aikman through 36 in his first two seasons so sometimes you wonder if it’s better to just let them go out there and get beat up and learn.
I get that but the poor bastage got sacked 9 x yesterday.Only thing you can learn there is run for your fookin' life. Granted Myles Garret is one of the top 5 D-Lineman ,maybe Thee Top.And Clowney is no slouch Malik McDowell is playing good also.Fields won't being seeing that every week but many a prospect got buried before ever getting a real chance because the surrounding cast was - MEH.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 28, 2021, 11:03:45 AM
Cowboys took the driver's seat in the NFC East last night, lighting up the Eagles 41-21. Dak Prescott is a much more impressive and developed passer than what could be expected of him two seasons ago, even behind a less effective offensive line. Dak is living up to his 9 figure contract, showing full control of the offense through strategic audibles, zipping through his progressions until finding the open target, and working his instincts to move around in the pocket and maximize passing lanes. It's impressive to watch knowing how 3 seasons ago Dak was considered the limiting factor of the Cowboys stacked offense. Last night's stat line: 21/26 238 yds 3 tds.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on September 28, 2021, 12:22:05 PM
It's just one game against another crappy NFC East team, but it was nice to see the Cowboys really take charge for a change. 

And it's especially fun to have a game like that against the hated eagles.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 28, 2021, 04:03:46 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
CB Richard Sherman signs one year deal with Tampa Bay. They need all the help they can get at corner.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
Chicago Bears just bought 326 acres of land from Churchill Downs Inc. for $197 million in Arlington Heights about an hour outside of Chicago. Looks like Solider Field no more as the Bears gearing up to move to the 'burbs.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 29, 2021, 05:37:23 PM
Chicago Bears just bought 326 acres of land from Churchill Downs Inc. for $197 million in Arlington Heights about an hour outside of Chicago. Looks like Solider Field no more as the Bears gearing up to move to the 'burbs.
Can they just use whatever technology came with the alien spaceship and move it there, and then restore Soldier Field to its historic state?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 29, 2021, 05:51:10 PM
Yeah, soldier field to that town is 28 miles, and it takes 1 hour, 6 minutes. :o
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 07:20:22 PM
Yeah, soldier field to that town is 28 miles, and it takes 1 hour, 6 minutes. :o
should change the name to the Arlington Heights Bears.

Chicago is a weird ass town to me. It's a megacity smackdab in the midwest. It's like the place where all the lonely midwest farmer boys and farmer gals dreaming for something more flocked to. Weird accents, weird food, and weirdos.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on September 29, 2021, 07:47:12 PM
should change the name to the Arlington Heights Bears.

Chicago is a weird ass town to me. It's a megacity smackdab in the midwest. It's like the place where all the lonely midwest farmer boys and farmer gals dreaming for something more flocked to. Weird accents, weird food, and weirdos.
LOL I'm pretty sure they all went to Florida. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 29, 2021, 07:50:39 PM
LOL I'm pretty sure they all went to Florida.
I went to California at least. But if you want weirdos... They refer to "Florida man" for a reason...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 07:55:30 PM
LOL I'm pretty sure they all went to Florida.
Nah. Not that many people from Chicago in South Florida, thankfully. Haven't seen any of those weird ass hotdog places or disgusting casserole places they refer to as pizza, nor run into any disgusting Chicago accents. Maybe they all frequent the West Coast of Florida? They don't call Tampa the armpit of Florida for no reason.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 29, 2021, 07:58:37 PM
I went to California at least. But if you want weirdos... They refer to "Florida man" for a reason...
Which Florida Man? There are a couple of live wires on this board,"live" being a flexible adjective
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 07:59:07 PM
I went to California at least. But if you want weirdos... They refer to "Florida man" for a reason...
Yeah, there are a shit-ton of Florida Crackers. Thankfully South Florida has been built up so much and become so expensive to live in, they are mostly gone from this area and moved into other parts of the state. Go north or west of South Florida, and you definitely run the risk of running into "Florida Man". 

California has more than it's fair share of fkn weirdos. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 08:04:17 PM
Tom Brady starting his own clothing line to be sold exclusively at Nordstrom. The line will be called Brady, and it goes on sale this December in Nordstrom's all over the US/Canada. Guess Tom needs the money.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 08:06:13 PM
isn't Jim Harbaugh from California? 

Literally DOES NOT get any weirder than f**kstick.

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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on September 29, 2021, 09:16:53 PM
Well he is doing Subway ads.  That's really down market  and lowbrow for Brady.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
Well he is doing Subway ads.  That's really down market  and lowbrow for Brady. 
guy doesn't eat anything, and he's schilling disgusting processed food for Subway. Subway just got hit with a lawsuit because their "tuna" was found to have zero traces of DNA from...well....tuna. Cash money homie.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
should change the name to the Arlington Heights Bears.

Chicago is a weird ass town to me. It's a megacity smackdab in the midwest. It's like the place where all the lonely midwest farmer boys and farmer gals dreaming for something more flocked to. Weird accents, weird food, and weirdos.
midwest farmer boys and girls don't dream of Chitown

that's fo sure
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 29, 2021, 10:45:21 PM
Well he is doing Subway ads.  That's really down market  and lowbrow for Brady. 
Seems like the worst way to get people to forget about Jared is to hire a spokesperson who looks way too young for their age.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on September 30, 2021, 01:05:16 AM
the whole thing is a bad look.   Seems like a campaign that should run overseas in Asia, where US celebs often do 'WTF' ad campaigns.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2021, 02:51:30 AM
Well he is doing Subway ads.  That's really down market  and lowbrow for Brady. 
$ is $
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2021, 02:51:55 AM
the whole thing is a bad look.  Seems like a campaign that should run overseas in Asia, where US celebs often do 'WTF' ad campaigns.
Cue the Schwarzenegger vids...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on September 30, 2021, 08:28:24 AM
Cue the Schwarzenegger vids...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s8qn_PKbiA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcfI0gf9oDc
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2021, 10:02:01 AM
not clicking on that
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 30, 2021, 10:14:18 AM
I thought Megan Rapinoe was the new Jared? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 01:06:04 PM
the whole thing is a bad look.  Seems like a campaign that should run overseas in Asia, where US celebs often do 'WTF' ad campaigns.
Basically the entire plot of a Bill Murray movie.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Gigem on September 30, 2021, 01:09:10 PM
Why is Brady just now doing ads and stuff after all these years?  Seems kind of strange that he's had ~20 years to do this and all of a sudden he's pimping stuff?  Don't tell me he needs the money, I won't believe it.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 01:22:02 PM
Why is Brady just now doing ads and stuff after all these years?  Seems kind of strange that he's had ~20 years to do this and all of a sudden he's pimping stuff?  Don't tell me he needs the money, I won't believe it. 
He has done ads for a while, but they were for clothes and cologne.  Not sandwiches that he wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, and cell service.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 30, 2021, 02:03:59 PM
He has done ads for a while, but they were for clothes and cologne.  Not sandwiches that he wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, and cell service.
I do enjoy that they poke fun at him for it too...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pXVJvrSRU8


These Subway ads have Steph Curry, Serena Williams, Megan Rapinoe, and Charles Barkley narrating. So they've been throwing money at this like crazy...

...although to be fair, they might be paying Barkley in sandwiches. I think he'd work for that.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2021, 02:08:48 PM
I'd work for sammiches
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2021, 02:12:48 PM
Chicago Bears just bought 326 acres of land from Churchill Downs Inc. for $197 million in Arlington Heights about an hour outside of Chicago. Looks like Solider Field no more as the Bears gearing up to move to the 'burbs.
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p180x540/242500597_4577762825650675_5121965210378239497_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Qes8QB11QicAX-TKWVV&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=2d18e3a9ecb88e3e7016dd6abab816fb&oe=617CCD35)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 02:46:07 PM

...although to be fair, they might be paying off Barkley's gambling debts in sandwiches
FIFY
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 02:46:23 PM
I'd work for sammiches
Subway?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 30, 2021, 03:06:38 PM
Subway?
😂😂
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 30, 2021, 03:11:18 PM
Yeah, there are a shit-ton of Florida Crackers. Thankfully South Florida has been built up so much and become so expensive to live in, they are mostly gone from this area and moved into other parts of the state. Go north or west of South Florida, and you definitely run the risk of running into "Florida Man".

California has more than it's fair share of fkn weirdos.
We don't see "Florida Man" around here. Have to drive East toward Lake O to see them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2021, 03:25:44 PM
Subway?
maybe, depending to the quantity and quality and intensity of the work
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 30, 2021, 04:46:00 PM
Made this one today...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 05:12:57 PM
maybe, depending to the quantity and quality and intensity of the work
So, working at Subway?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on September 30, 2021, 05:41:31 PM
not that, I have a good friend that owns and manages 6 or 7 Subways in the area.  He always needs help.  My oldest daughter worked for him a while when in high school.

I won't even help him manage as a friend
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on September 30, 2021, 05:50:31 PM
I have no desire ever to be involved in the restaurant industry again.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 30, 2021, 07:00:00 PM
I was a Sandwich Artist in high school. Food service sucks.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on September 30, 2021, 07:01:23 PM
I was a waiter in college. I was actually impressed on how little regard chain restaurants had for their employees.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on September 30, 2021, 07:09:08 PM
I was a Sandwich Artist in high school.
I was a Sammich Aficionado along the lines of Whimpy,Dagwood,Scooby-Do those who did so much to advance the art.Oh and over the sink and if no one was looking milk straight out of the jug - but I held it high - no touching the lips.I'm not a crass individual after all
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 30, 2021, 07:58:08 PM
You are a scholar and a gentleman, @MrNubbz (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17) 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2021, 08:46:00 PM
I was a waiter in college. I was actually impressed on how little regard chain restaurants had for their employees.
Waiting is a better insider take of a job than Office Space.

I still think waiting tables is the hardest job I've ever had.  And I've done construction work and been a lawyer, so I've run the gamut of blue collar and white collar jobs.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 01, 2021, 07:43:34 AM
I wouldn't say run the gamut,some very serious dabbling how ever
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 01, 2021, 10:35:38 AM
He has done ads for a while, but they were for clothes and cologne.  Not sandwiches that he wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, and cell service.
yeah he's done tons of credit card commercials, under armour, uggs, fragrance, mattress, and sure there's others over the years.

But fast food? He's become so rich and he eats such a strict diet in order to take care of his body- dude hasn't seen the inside of a subway since he was a broke college kid at 18-21 years old. he would probably literally go a day or two without eating rather than eat subway right now. don't think that's an exaggeration. he wouldn't eat that garbage for nothing. give him millions though- and he'll schill it on tv.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 01, 2021, 11:01:02 AM
oh yeah, by the way: Joe Burrow is really good. I think he's going to be the next guy up to replace Brady/Rodgers in the very near future and be in that same category with Mahomes as the best QB's in the league.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 03, 2021, 04:00:05 PM
Malik McDowell get's a key 4th down,4th qtr sack with 1:18 left and Browns hanging on to a 14-7 lead
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 03, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
Browns take a whole 10 seconds off of the clock and punt,SMDH
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 03, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
The Jets are off the schneid. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 03, 2021, 05:48:19 PM
Shady things in Lambaugh, per usual
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 03, 2021, 05:51:07 PM
The Jets are off the schneid.


This is why I NEVER bet on the NFL. It’s too unpredictable. Picked the Titans for this week’s survivor pool pick and wouldn’t you know, Zach Wilson had a coming out party. 2 TDs and just shy of 300 yds passing.

On the other side of the ball Titan’s offense is boom or bust. If they don’t come up with the big play they stutter out because despite having the right parts they’ve had no success establishing a rhythm.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 03, 2021, 06:10:16 PM

This is why I NEVER bet on the NFL. It’s too unpredictable. Picked the Titans for this week’s survivor pool pick and wouldn’t you know, Zach Wilson had a coming out party. 2 TDs and just shy of 300 yds passing.

On the other side of the ball Titan’s offense is boom or bust. If they don’t come up with the big play they stutter out because despite having the right parts they’ve had no success establishing a rhythm.
Weren't Brown and Julio both out?  Granted that doesn't explain Wilson shredding them
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 03, 2021, 06:15:38 PM

This is why I NEVER bet on the NFL. It’s too unpredictable. Picked the Titans for this week’s survivor pool pick and wouldn’t you know, Zach Wilson had a coming out party. 2 TDs and just shy of 300 yds passing.
You did know that both starting WRs were out? Julio Jones and A.J. Brown I looked that game over and went with Buffalo.Just saw ELAs comment we have until 8 PM thursday to get our picks in so plenty of time to look over the injury reports
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 10:12:54 PM
Belichik couldn't get luckier with this weather. Bucs dropping everything. And the one big play they get it's negated by a questionable call.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 11:14:16 PM
Patriots offense literally sucks. And they are making chunk plays and gashing Tampa's defense pretty much at will. This team will not repeat as SB Champs. That defense is just too bad. Their secondary cannot do jack you know what. They are turrrrrible. 


Last year that was masked by a defense that was getting lots of pressure on the QB and making turnovers. They aren't getting any pressure at all this entire year- and they aren't making impact turnover plays. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 11:28:51 PM
Bucs just need to get 7 yards to basically end the game. And what does Arians call? Deep pass to the end-zone to Brown on 2nd down and then the exact same play next down- deep pass to end-zone to Brown on 3rd down. Like seriously, WTF did I just watch?

Even if they make this FG all New England will need is a FG to win the game. Seriously. Wtf.


3rd and 7 and New England only has 1 time out left. All you need to do is pick up the 1st down, make them burn their one TO. Milk time off the clock, kick the FG and the game is likely over.

Now Pats have 1 TO left with 1:57 left down 19-17 and all they need is a FG to win it.

Arians is a straight up legit moron.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 11:32:06 PM
people shit on Joe Buck, and rightfully so- but there isn't a more awful announcing duo in history than Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 04, 2021, 09:17:29 AM
You were drunk in History? I nodded off and woke up to catch the last 9 minutes and saw the lead 3 then almost 4X. This was an emotional,hotly contested game so effort exerted on both sides made the other look pedestrian.I know TB had 2 DBs out.The game was played in a down pour and Mac Jones put on a nice drive in the final minute.That after Brady got the Bucs in FG range and hit on a 47 yarder.The Pat last attempt amost made but hit the upright.I woke up just in time to catch a helluva last half of a 4th Qtr
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on October 04, 2021, 10:15:41 AM
One reason I dislike the NFL, a lesser reason, if the Falcons would be my "home team".

Hapless, hopeless, and horrific, able to blow even safe leads.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 04, 2021, 10:17:52 AM
Bucs just need to get 7 yards to basically end the game. And what does Arians call? Deep pass to the end-zone to Brown on 2nd down and then the exact same play next down- deep pass to end-zone to Brown on 3rd down. Like seriously, WTF did I just watch?

You watched a reciever (Brown) who you like drop a ball in the end zone.That 2nd pass couldn't have been hand delivered any better.Arians used the element of surprise and it should of worked displaying confidence in his offense - go for the jugular,nothing ventured - nothing gained
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 04, 2021, 10:24:10 AM
One reason I dislike the NFL, a lesser reason, if the Falcons would be my "home team".

Hapless, hopeless, and horrific, able to blow even safe leads.
Try following the Browns for decades.Two seasons where they went 1-31.In the late '80s 2 seasons where they were stopped on the door step of the Super Bowl TWICE losing B2B AFC Championships in the last minute
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 04, 2021, 02:29:34 PM
Try following the Browns for decades.Two seasons where they went 1-31.In the late '80s 2 seasons where they were stopped on the door step of the Super Bowl TWICE losing B2B AFC Championships in the last minute
Really?

We are doing this?

The Lions have won one playoff game in my lifetime, in the entire Super Bowl era, and it was 30 years ago
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 04, 2021, 02:34:46 PM
Really?

We are doing this?

The Lions have won one playoff game in my lifetime, in the entire Super Bowl era, and it was 30 years ago
Yes. When the folks I meet down here in Florida find out that I came from Michigan and assume I am a Lions fan, They actually laugh but also have sincere pity for me.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 04, 2021, 02:39:47 PM
Really?

We are doing this?

The Lions have won one playoff game in my lifetime, in the entire Super Bowl era, and it was 30 years ago
That's what they deserve after moving the team from Portsmouth
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 04, 2021, 03:56:05 PM
The Lions have won one playoff game in my lifetime, in the entire Super Bowl era, and it was 30 years ago
Lucky us we last won a playoff game in'94 so ya we have you by a country mile 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 04, 2021, 04:13:26 PM
Lucky us we last won a playoff game in'94 so ya we have you by a country mile
Ummm...try again?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 04, 2021, 04:36:26 PM
The Lions last won the NFC Central in 1993. Since then, every other team in the NFC has won their division at least 3 times, including a team that wasn't even in the NFC at the time.

Since their last Super Bowl, the Vikings have played in 5 NFC Championship Games and have soul-crushing, 7th circle of Hell losses in all of them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 04, 2021, 07:05:09 PM
Really?

We are doing this?

The Lions have won one playoff game in my lifetime, in the entire Super Bowl era, and it was 30 years ago
LOL. For real.

Not to mention....

0-16.

Matt Millen.

Matt Millen picking a WR in the top 10 for oh, 20 years in a row.

Killing the spirit of your greatest player ever and breaking his will into retirement smack dab in his prime. Then suing him to get money back from him because he didn't play out his contract.

Killing the spirit of your second greatest player ever and breaking his will into retirement smack dab in his prime. Then suing him to get money back from him because he didn't play out his contract.

There literally isn't a bigger, sadder, sack of shit franchise in all of pro sports than the Detroit Lions.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 05, 2021, 12:39:41 AM
How much Los Angeles cares about the Chargers: 75% of the crowd was pro-Raiders tonight...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on October 05, 2021, 08:28:34 AM
A lightning delay in a domed stadium.  Just when you think you've seen it all...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 05, 2021, 08:46:49 AM
Ummm...try again?
I should have included ;D,sheesh ya think ya know someone
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 05, 2021, 08:55:23 AM
LOL. For real.

Not to mention....

0-16.

Matt Millen.
I agree Millen was horrific as a GM,but not to be out done in ineptitude the Browns did go 1-15 & 0-16 B2B.The former owner takes the team and leaves and gets a Championship,Belichick leaves gets multiples.Hell when BB cut Kozar for Todd Philcox he was picked up by the Cowboys and won a SB THAT YEAR in Dallas.Snake bit and cursed no doubt about it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 05, 2021, 08:56:39 AM
How much Los Angeles cares about the Chargers: 75% of the crowd was pro-Raiders tonight...
That is going to be the annual reminder of how badly the NFL screwed that up
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 05, 2021, 08:58:07 AM
The Lions last won the NFC Central in 1993. 
The Cleveland Browns have not won the AFC North since the NFL realigned its divisions in 2002. Cleveland won the AFC Central, the precursor to the AFC North, six times. The Browns earned the division title in 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1989.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 05, 2021, 09:02:37 AM
That is going to be the annual reminder of how badly the NFL screwed that up
Oh, my favorite thing about the Chargers is that by coming to LA they blocked the Raiders from returning. 

Vegas suits them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 05, 2021, 09:06:51 AM
Even in good times not sure LA is a Two Team City
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 05, 2021, 10:42:49 AM
Not sure if anyone caught this tidbit from the close of Sunday’s the Ravens-Broncos game.

From www.cbssports.com: “The Ravens entered this contest with 42 straight 100-yard rushing games -- one shy of tying the 1974-77 Pittsburgh Steelers' record, per the Baltimore Sun. While their win was never in doubt, with just seconds left on the clock, Harbaugh instructed his quarterback Jackson to rush left instead of just taking the typical kneel down, in order to tie the NFL record.”

By the last play the Ravens had 97 total rushing yards. As Lamar Jackson’s rush to the left for 5 additional yards preserved the Ravens’ 100-yard rushing streak, Denver’s sideline sure didn’t take it well:

https://twitter.com/9NEWSSports/status/1444877439776313345
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 05, 2021, 10:26:08 PM
The Donkey's sideline can suck it

it wasn't about them
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 05, 2021, 10:31:06 PM
If the Broncos didn't want that to happen, perhaps they shouldn't have put themselves into that position. 

I might be sympathetic to that argument in HS sports, but the NFL? GTFO of here with that whining. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2021, 10:27:03 AM
Patriots released All-Pro CB Stephon Gillmore. Gillmore just turned 31 and is coming off a serious injury and is on the PUP list and can't come back til at least week 8.

Bucs should sign him to 1 year deal. Would be a cheat code to improve their awful secondary.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2021, 12:06:56 PM
If the Broncos didn't want that to happen, perhaps they shouldn't have put themselves into that position.

I might be sympathetic to that argument in HS sports, but the NFL? GTFO of here with that whining.
It was stupid by the Ravens, but I also don't get complaining about it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2021, 12:37:42 PM
I get going for the record but a freak injury sure as hell negates that with a win already in the bag.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2021, 12:39:45 PM
I get going for the record but a freak injury sure as hell negates that with a win already in the bag.
Is it a record?

Most consecutive games over an arbitrary number?  If they were 3 yards short of the most rushing yards in a game, then, at least, maybe.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 07, 2021, 10:35:36 PM
The rare two punts in one play
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 10, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
Joe Burrow is so cold blooded and so f'n money in the clutch. Kid reminds me of Brady so much it's scary. Cincinnati has a good one.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on October 10, 2021, 03:04:16 PM
so Im watching the Texans vs NE game and the first three TDs had a missed extra point try

three in a row has to be a record
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 10, 2021, 03:37:49 PM
what a drive by Burrow and clutch 4th down conversion with his legs and 2 pt conversion throw. wow. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 10, 2021, 04:08:04 PM
Mason Crosby might just retire instead of trying to kick again
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 10, 2021, 04:08:55 PM
Crazy game
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on October 10, 2021, 04:35:21 PM
what a drive by Burrow and clutch 4th down conversion with his legs and 2 pt conversion throw. wow.
I don't think he was too happy to go to the Bengals as owner incompetence could leave him w/ a Rivers like career/frequently injured. Tho he might have softened as at the very least got good skill pos guys. They better offer him 45-50M/yr the year before he hits FA. Because 1/2 the teams in the league would gladly pay 2 No.1s and all the money for him.

and yea that 2pt conversion pass was insane 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 10, 2021, 05:06:35 PM
just turned on the Cowboys - Giants. They had shots of Saquon Barkley on the sideline with his ankle the size of an elephants foot. Looked like a nasty ankle injury. 

I think the guy is a hell of a player with HOF level talent, but he's not going to make it there if he's always injured. It's like he's made out of glass or something. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 10, 2021, 05:26:54 PM
Greedy Williams strips the ball malik McDowell recovers at the 24 of Chargers.2 guys who a year ago prospects weren't looking so hot 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 10, 2021, 05:28:37 PM
FG, Browns 20 Chargers 13
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on October 10, 2021, 05:41:08 PM
just turned on the Cowboys - Giants. They had shots of Saquon Barkley on the sideline with his ankle the size of an elephants foot. Looked like a nasty ankle injury.

I think the guy is a hell of a player with HOF level talent, but he's not going to make it there if he's always injured. It's like he's made out of glass or something.
that was Tyrod Taylor levels of bad luck there
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 10, 2021, 06:51:30 PM
Cleveland got jobbed TWICE,there was offensive holding then the flag the Browns for 33 yrds then 5 plays later the flag the browns and absolutely no holding puts the ball at the 6.Damn,they have to over haul this shit system why play the fooking games if the Zebras can't see it or call it right.Then the offer up a 5 yrd procedure assholes,these jerks should lose their jobs
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 10, 2021, 07:18:38 PM
The Browns picking up the back and carrying him into the end zone is an all timer
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 10, 2021, 07:25:55 PM
Man, looked like Njoku was trying to draw a pass interference call, when if he kept his feet might have caught the game winner
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 10, 2021, 07:29:38 PM
The Browns picking up the back and carrying him into the end zone is an all timer
Been sweating my fantasy matchup all afternoon looking like it was tight because I had Ekeler and my opponent had Waller, and then in the 4th Ekeler gets three TDs, including the one he was actively trying NOT to score.

Lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 11, 2021, 08:47:25 AM
Bills smoke the Chiefs 38-20. Chiefs now 2-3. The beginning of the end of a dynasty that never was? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 10:15:38 AM
no dynasty w/o a defense
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on October 11, 2021, 10:50:56 AM
Giants are bad and had almost none of their offensive starters by the end of the game, but seeing the Cowboys beat them still always brings a smile to my face.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 10:58:14 AM
I wasn't smiling, but glad someone enjoyed it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 11, 2021, 09:14:24 PM
Gruden gone.

Sounds like there were a lot more emails than that from the context...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 11, 2021, 09:16:22 PM
Gruden gone.

Sounds like there were a lot more emails than that from the context...
Isn't he still owed like $60 million?  I'd say there are a lot more
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 09:17:04 PM
just a guess, but It wouldn't surprise me if plenty of NFL coaching staff members were dumb enough to send emails such as those

Gruden will be the scapegoat
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 11, 2021, 09:22:18 PM
Gruden gone.

Sounds like there were a lot more emails than that from the context...
Apparently he was emailing former GM of Redskins who is his friend, and was critical of Goodell saying things like Goodell should stop pressuring teams to draft “queers” (Michael Sam saga) and also making fun of Goodell calling him a “faggot”.

That’s not cool that he said that about “drafting queers”- like why should that even matter what a players sexual orientation is? Can’t say I disagree with him on the Goodell part though. Not sure there isn’t a bigger dickwad in the universe with a more punchable face.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on October 11, 2021, 09:38:12 PM
Also he coached noted gay person Carl Nassib
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 11, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
Also he coached noted gay person Carl Nassib
https://twitter.com/1Leeky_3Leek/status/1447732001079971848?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on October 12, 2021, 12:32:27 AM
Bills smoke the Chiefs 38-20. Chiefs now 2-3. The beginning of the end of a dynasty that never was?
Chiefs still really good. Mahomes isn't really on a cap killer deal either they are gonna be around for a long time. they might be just a wild card/divisional round team this year tho. 

However if you are gonna stink, stink in sept/oct. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 12, 2021, 08:36:38 AM
Chiefs are good on offense, but their defense stinks worse than a full port-a-potty on a hot day.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:26:14 AM
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1447776643557122058?s=20

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1447773522332356609?s=20

https://twitter.com/TotalProSports/status/1447749470209388546?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:30:03 AM
Keyshawn Johnson been waiting for years for this. That clown calling anyone else a fraud- the irony is delicious. Ask his former TB teammates like Warren Sapp or Ronde Barber about Keyshawn. Nobody who played with him liked that f'ng guy.

https://twitter.com/joshnsanchez/status/1447908962934956036?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:39:25 AM
https://twitter.com/GPollowitz/status/1447903843187056642?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:40:59 AM
https://twitter.com/SecureTheStash/status/1447919832947642375?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:41:57 AM
https://twitter.com/docslocks_/status/1447916826856464389?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 09:46:50 AM
Harbaugh to the Raiders? PLEASE GOD MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 12, 2021, 10:41:37 AM
Davis's kid is far enough out of touch that it could happen.But Goodall will prolly mandate a LGBTQ hire 🤣
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 12, 2021, 11:50:51 AM
Season ending surgery for Ragnow.

0-17 is truly in play.  You take a bad team; then take out their best OL, their best pass rusher, their #1 WR, and their #1 CB for the season.

Big yikes.

Of course it's not in a year with a generational QB at the top.  Not sold on Matt Corral as a sure fire pro.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 12, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Is all that confirmed ?I knew about the center
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 12, 2021, 12:02:04 PM
Is all that confirmed ?I knew about the center
Only one that might return is Cephus (#1 WR).  He has a broken collarbone.  Other three are all season ending
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 12, 2021, 12:05:36 PM
I know the back up center is banged up and another cb also Ballantine i think it was Might take Cinci in my survivor pool
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 12:06:35 PM
Season ending surgery for Ragnow.

0-17 is truly in play.  You take a bad team; then take out their best OL, their best pass rusher, their #1 WR, and their #1 CB for the season.

Big yikes.

Of course it's not in a year with a generational QB at the top.  Not sold on Matt Corral as a sure fire pro.
Corral isn't even a 1st round pick imo. Not sure I'd take him anywhere higher than the 4th rd to be honest.

2021 was the year to draft a QB first round. No Trevor Lawerence, Justin Fields, Zach Wilson or even Trey Lance in this draft.

Honestly, I'm not seeing any QB out there I'd touch with a 1st round pick right now. Bryce Young looks pretty good but he's small. It's OK to be small if you can move like Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson- and I don't see that from Bryce Young. I do like CJ Stroud's talent a lot- but need to see some more. MAYBE Caleb Williams, but that's super duper early and he's only played like one half of football. I love the flashes I've seen from JJ McCarthy- you can see the obvious arm talent- but he's thrown like 15 passes total. Quinn Ewers is the most hyped HS QB I can recall since Trevor Lawerence- but haven't even seen him yet.

D.J. Uiagalelei completely underwhelming relative to his massive talent. Spencer Rattler sucks relative to the hype. There just aren't many top flight QB prospects out there.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 12, 2021, 03:02:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U0VG1Xr.png)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 12, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
His comments about Roger Goodell explain this coordinated takedown by the NFL HQ.

Good old fashioned vengeance.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 10:51:59 PM
His comments about Roger Goodell explain this coordinated takedown by the NFL HQ.

Good old fashioned vengeance.
1000%.

This all came about because the NFL had hired law firms (plural) to investigate the Washington Football Team over sexaul harrasment and misconduct for nearly a full year, pour over 650,000+ emails, fined the team $10 million, and wrote an obscenely long report which they decided to share with no one.

None of the other 649,995 emails leak. No part of that 2000 page report leaks.

But all of a sudden, a handful of emails that Jon Gruden wrote to someone who worked for Washington leak to the media. And he happens to viciously make fun of Roger Goodell- the biggest assclown in sports- in those emails- and everything Jon Gruden related leaks out for some odd reason but nothing else.

Goodell had it in for him. He's a petty little cuck.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 12, 2021, 11:06:20 PM
Goodell may well have opened a can of worms he didn't expect would open. 

https://twitter.com/MemesJets/status/1448020925018947585?t=aJvukTqg7OyR0YU6FtbRgg&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 12, 2021, 11:08:00 PM
Goodell may well have opened a can of worms he didn't expect would open.

https://twitter.com/MemesJets/status/1448020925018947585?t=aJvukTqg7OyR0YU6FtbRgg&s=19
awesome. I hope it gets out and it's really bad and he gets accused of trying to cover it up and it just blows up in his face and Goodell is forced to resign. I hate the stupid smug prick.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2021, 08:23:40 AM
Gruden removed from Bucs ring of honor. This shit is all too much. I'd love it if everyone throwing stones at the guy released every private email/text exchange of theirs over the last 10 years. Bet they're all squeaaaaky clean. Nothing to see there!

This is the same team by the way that just signed Richard Sherman- who was arrested for domestic abuse just a few months back- and oh yeah same franchise that also employs Antonio Brown- who was essentially kicked off 3 other NFL teams for being a psycho and was credibly accused of sexual assault by multiple women and domestic violence against his ex-girlfriend.

For reference....one of their esteemed Ring of Honor members:

https://twitter.com/JamesDKoh/status/1448095477183000580?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2021, 08:30:09 AM
by the way- Warren Sapp should 100000000% stay in the ring of honor. And so should Gruden. You cannot take ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON THE FIELD away. Those guys did what they did. 

Vast majority of Gruden's players seem to really like him. The only one who seems to have a bone to pick with him was Keyshawn Johnson. But then again, Keyshawn Johnson is a complete moron assclown who is a legend in his mind only. 

Sapp on Keyshawn: 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBg7O35X0AwLMTu?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2021, 08:52:16 AM
 Roger Goodell- the biggest assclown in sports- in those emails- and everything Jon Gruden related leaks out for some odd reason but nothing else.

Goodell had it in for him. He's a petty little cuck.
My blood boils at the mention or sight of him.This is what is wrong IMHO with pro sports.A shit stain like this pulls in North of 50 mil.,yet cash stapped cities communities have been bullied/bullshitted into thinking they'll lose out $$$$$ when their franchise is moved because they won't build sports complexes/meccas for these corporate pirates.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2021, 09:28:14 AM
thread title is accurate
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2021, 11:20:00 AM
I just can't wait until we get to read Gruden's takes on Pete Rose,  the DH, CFP expansion.   I mean this guy was literally the highest paid analyst on the planet.  It's gotta be in this cache.

Nobody in the league wants to carry on with this. They want to memory hole all of this at this point  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
burning email servers like Hillary the past 48 hours
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2021, 09:07:54 PM
Maybe Tennessee and Gruden always needed each other

https://twitter.com/teatime75/status/1448377930523029504?t=ibaYY8EDIRWBSsk9l-QvVw&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2021, 09:18:02 PM
Maybe Tennessee and Gruden always needed each other

https://twitter.com/teatime75/status/1448377930523029504?t=ibaYY8EDIRWBSsk9l-QvVw&s=19


I'm calling BS. Droopy balls? Boats? Bosm? Goth hospital? Skin? 

Nobody searches these terms on Pornhub, let alone the vast majority of searches from an entire state. 

Most of the others are somewhat believable, but these ones totally blow their cover. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2021, 09:29:58 PM
Way to go Bob Woodward
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2021, 10:12:33 PM
I did get a computer virus once that could access my webcam from a simple google search for "boats" so that was fun.  Creepy AF.

But I lived in AZ at the time, so it's neither here nor there.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 14, 2021, 06:23:54 AM
Way to go Bob Woodward
😂😂😂
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2021, 09:50:29 AM

I'm calling BS. Droopy balls? Boats? Bosm? Goth hospital? Skin?

Nobody searches these terms on Pornhub, let alone the vast majority of searches from an entire state.

Most of the others are somewhat believable, but these ones totally blow their cover.
and just how would you know so much about searches on pornhub???
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 14, 2021, 10:10:47 AM
and just how would you know so much about searches on pornhub???
he's done his fair share of "research" on the platform. haven't we all? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 15, 2021, 09:50:44 AM
What stood out in the first half of last night’s NFL game was the Eagles, otherwise better coached and quarterbacked than I expected this season, making too late of an effort at the obviously needed defensive adjustments. Such as getting away from the bad idea to play their Corners so far off Tampa’s WRs, which allowed Brady to take advantage of the short pass in the first half.

Tampa had a few early interception reviews go their way as well and as my Eagles buddy made his point about the refs always “bailing out” Brady, I realized this is Tampa we suddenly feel has the odds stacked their way. A Tampa franchise that before Brady, Brown, and Gronk couldn’t create a break for themselves. Not since I was working at Burger King in High School, not since the bigger ongoing headline, Gruden, was coaching the Bucs.

Speaking of Gruden, the more compelling development is the ongoing NFL email scandal – of all people shouldn’t lawyers know better than to get careless on email?

https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1448841952754085902
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 15, 2021, 10:18:42 AM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p552x414/243085083_844077286285233_2106178574695519746_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=2kRuwg4PZW0AX9sI57G&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=791e84a8171f924fbb5039916fe2008b&oe=6190C8FE)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 17, 2021, 12:52:31 PM
What a game, what an ending. 
Jacksonville gets the win!   

Incredible 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 17, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
What a game, what an ending.
Jacksonville gets the win! 

Incredible
hopefully the drama with Urbz dies down a little now.

As long as Trevor Lawerence keeps developing into a top tier QB- Urbz will win in Jacksonville. The NFL is ALL about the QB. Saban failed because he never had one. Urbz gots himself a heckuva young QB.

Urbz has one of the best QB prospects I've ever seen since I've been watching. John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Michael Vick, Joe Burrow, and Trevor Lawerence are probably the best QB prospects in the draft since I've been watching. 2 of those dudes are in the Hall, Vick could've been if not for off-field issues, and Luck was easily on his way if not for injuries which caused him to retire early. 

Jury still out on Burrow and Lawerence- but I love what I am seeing from both of them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 17, 2021, 07:22:24 PM
Turn on Dallas/NE two TD's B2B,unbelievable.Under3 minutes Trevon Diggs gets a pick 6 for the Boys, abit of showboating afterward.Next set of downs from Scrimmage he gets burned with a 75 TD pass,29-26 pats.3 lead changes in 4 minutes still going
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 17, 2021, 07:22:50 PM
UNBELIEVABLE clutch play by Diggs right there to make the INT and return it for 6 and give the Cowboys the lead with like 2 mins left in the game.

He is having a season for the ages. This will go down as one of the best CB seasons we've ever seen. Diggs' season thus far has been up there with Deion Sanders' 1994 season, Charles Woodson's 2009 season and Darrelle Revis' 2011 season. It's been incredible to watch.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 17, 2021, 07:32:47 PM
Diggs got smoked on the next play and I told a buddy BILL would go long - and did
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 17, 2021, 07:38:57 PM
I have had this entire game on.  

The officiating has been…….interesting. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on October 17, 2021, 07:53:03 PM
Boys win it!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on October 17, 2021, 10:33:37 PM
I have had this entire game on. 

The officiating has been…….interesting.
That's an understatement. 

Boys win it!

Amen brutha.  That was a heck of a ballgame.  Glad the good guys won.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 17, 2021, 10:45:50 PM
That's an understatement.

Amen brutha.  That was a heck of a ballgame.  Glad the good guys won.

I just feel like if the officiating has been more fair and balanced the game would not have been all that close and Dallas would’ve won by at least a couple of touchdowns. And I have no dog in the fight.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 17, 2021, 10:52:07 PM
 And I have no dog in the fight.
Nor did I seems neither the officials or meteor show up.And the Browns keep getting rolled like a Cheech and Chong blunt.Their injury report is celebrating Halloween early
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on October 17, 2021, 11:19:25 PM
I just feel like if the officiating has been more fair and balanced the game would not have been all that close and Dallas would’ve won by at least a couple of touchdowns. And I have no dog in the fight.
Oh I agree.  But if I say anything, then it's "whining about the refs."

Dallas rarely plays the Patriots and even less often at their home stadium, but I hear fans of other teams complaining all the time about the extra home cooking that goes on there.  I guess we can chalk it up to that, and move on.  Any road win in the NFL is a good win.


Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 18, 2021, 10:19:32 AM
Didn’t know what to expect yesterday from the Raiders after their disordered week of firing Gruden risked sending a disinterested roster onto the field Vs the Broncos. But it was the Broncos whose disinterest was surprising. Granted the Raiders have a pair of stud receivers in Ruggs and Drake, and Carr is passing downfield better than ever, but the Broncos DBs did nothing to set themselves up for success. A whole afternoon of getting out of position, leaving targets uncovered, and taking bad angles.

Take this Raiders TD below (to go up 17-7 right before the half) – the Safety #22 Kareem Jackson reacts slowly with a bad angle when it was clear, once the ball was going Drake’s way, to attack the sideline as cover incase the CB gets beat (which he did). It’s a fatal mistake on Jackson’s part and worse, knowing when to attack the sideline is something you’re coached up on by about 8th or 9th grade.

https://twitter.com/FanSided/status/1449856357717340165
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 19, 2021, 12:17:08 AM
Fantasy football is a cruel bitch.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 19, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
Try a Survival Pool
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 19, 2021, 11:58:26 AM
Or a loser pool, which is the reverse of a survivor pool. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 19, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
Lot of people prolly went out on Jacksonville last week end
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 19, 2021, 12:40:01 PM
Lot of people prolly went out on Jacksonville last week end
Actually, a lot of people went out on Tennessee in my pool. I saw that the Jags game was in London and stayed away.

I cashed in this two years ago, and it lasted until the divisional playoff round before there were few enough players to talk a split.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 19, 2021, 12:41:06 PM
Lot of people prolly went out on Jacksonville last week end
I dunno... The 0-5 Jags were playing the 1-4 Dolphins. Someone picking the Dolphins would be going out on a pretty giant limb there. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 21, 2021, 11:36:26 PM
With Kareem Hunt & Nick Chubb both out the Browns call D'Erest Johnson number and in his 1st pro start gets 146 yds - with 2 O-Lineman out also.Johnson looked good quick hitting holes,cuts good and follows blocks.WR Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham both banged up bad as well as Mayfield did not play has a fractured humerus and torn labrum tough to play with that.Good Guys win 17-14
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2021, 09:58:30 AM
Teddy is a gamer, but Keenum had a running game
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 22, 2021, 10:02:50 AM
Moving forward after reviewing the Injuries as things now stand the Browns would be fortunate to get to 9-7,prolly 8-8.What started with such promise :(,
as long as they hang at least one on the Squeelers😎
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 22, 2021, 12:44:55 PM
Holy crap, Lions actually did something well?

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1451524374339756036?t=wtyyyo9Divp3Z8KiCJ-PXw&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 22, 2021, 12:53:47 PM
Thank you for posting that. That was way beyond cool!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 24, 2021, 01:11:13 PM
Derrick Henry is throwing touchdown passes now?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2021, 02:23:52 PM
what the heck happened in Kansas City?

My neighbors told me this was the next dynasty
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 02:26:22 PM
Derrick Henry is throwing touchdown passes now?
he's the best non-QB offensive player in the game. I love watching the guy play football. He's like the Calvin Johnson of RB's- if that makes any sense. He just doesn't make sense- guys like him should not exist. He's so big, so fast, so strong, so powerful, and so fluid that it's scary.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 02:27:45 PM
what the heck happened in Kansas City?

My neighbors told me this was the next dynasty
not the first dynasty that never was to buy into their own hype and fall apart at the seams. 

Looks like they are going the way of the Greatest Show on Turf and Legion of Boom.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 02:33:14 PM
this one is good....

https://twitter.com/BrianCoz/status/1452341628136480774?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2021, 02:38:05 PM
not the first dynasty that never was to buy into their own hype and fall apart at the seams.

Looks like they are going the way of the Greatest Show on Turf and Legion of Boom.
Not so fast my friend,ya there's a drop off but that's still a young talented squad getting seasoned with adversity.They could run the table or come back like gang busters
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2021, 02:52:00 PM
with an improved Oline and a REALLY improved defense, they could make a run
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on October 24, 2021, 03:17:54 PM
Thought the Bengals were stupid for picking Chase over Sewell. I was crazy wrong. 

7 targets, 7 rec, 174yards 1TD. Crazy he's 41st in targets and might be as high as #3 on the yardage list after today. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on October 24, 2021, 03:24:22 PM
what the heck happened in Kansas City?

My neighbors told me this was the next dynasty
Defense got worse

No running game anymore. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 03:25:57 PM
Thought the Bengals were stupid for picking Chase over Sewell. I was crazy wrong.

7 targets, 7 rec, 174yards 1TD. Crazy he's 41st in targets and might be as high as #3 on the yardage list after today.
me too. only because I didn't want Burrow to get his brains battered in, broken in half and his career cut short by injury. In retrospect- it's probably A LOT harder to find a truly elite WR than it is to rebuild a bad OL. 

Chase looks like the next coming. He looks like a bigger, stronger, faster version of Odell. He looks like he could be THE WR in the NFL for the next decade like Calvin was and like Randy was before him. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 03:32:18 PM
so if the Chiefs dynasty really does die off before it ever got started....anybody else find it crazy that Tom Brady will have had a hand in ending 3 dynasties before they ever began? 


Greatest Show on Turf - 2001 Super Bowl 

Legion of Boom - 2014 Super Bowl

The Super Duper Mahomes - 2020 Super Bowl
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
so if the Chiefs dynasty really does die off before it ever got started....anybody else find it crazy that Tom Brady will have had a hand in ending 3 dynasties before they ever began?


Greatest Show on Turf - 2001 Super Bowl

Legion of Boom - 2014 Super Bowl

The Super Duper Mahomes - 2020 Super Bowl

C'mon winning One and returning for another is impressive but hardly a dynasty
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 03:41:03 PM
C'mon winning One and returning for another is impressive but hardly a dynasty
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.....

Had the Rams won in 2001- that's official dynasty territory- that's 2 SB's out of 3 with having a 3 year run with maybe the greatest offenses ever. 

Ditto the Seahawks in 2014- had they won it's back to back Super Bowl's with maybe the greatest 2 year run of defenses we've ever seen. Carroll lost a lot of guys on that team when he didn't hand the ball off to Beastmode and they lost. Lot of guys never forgave him for that.

And then the 2020 KC Chiefs were favorites to win back to back Super Bowls with a QB going on only his 4th year in the league. They got dismantled 31-9 and haven't been the same since.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2021, 03:47:40 PM
They had how many guys out last SB injuries and covid,tough to fight something you can't see and sure of extent
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2021, 03:50:18 PM
Bengals up 27-17 on Ravens home cooking worx for JB,good kid hope things work out sans when they're playing my perennial stalwarts

EDIT 34-17
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 24, 2021, 06:16:32 PM
Justin Fields taking a beating, 4 sacks, 1 INT, and 3 Fumbles while Chicago is down 35-3 at the half to Tampa Bay.

If I'm Bears owners, I am sitting Fields for the 2nd half and sitting him all year to make sure he doesn't get injured, firing Matt Nagy effective immediately, and looking for a coach that is all-in on developing Justin Fields in 2022 and beyond. Joe Brady?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 24, 2021, 06:42:48 PM
Justin Fields taking a beating, 4 sacks, 1 INT, and 3 Fumbles while Chicago is down 35-3 at the half to Tampa Bay.

If I'm Bears owners, I am sitting Fields for the 2nd half and sitting him all year to make sure he doesn't get injured, firing Matt Nagy effective immediately, and looking for a coach that is all-in on developing Justin Fields in 2022 and beyond. Joe Brady?
I completely agree with you on this one. The worst thing that happened to him was getting drafted by the Bears.

The best thing that could’ve happened to him woyld have been to fall to number 15 were the patriots, and quarterback guru Bill Belichick would have drafted him. 

The Bears can’t even give him one and a half seconds to throw a ball. And they don’t have a game plan designed for someone who’s trying to learn.

they said they were going to do what they did with Mahomes which was let him sit on the bench for a year and just play in spots and learn how to read the defenses, but instead they threw him to the sharks already. 
He’s an incredibly tough kid and a ferocious film study guy so he’ll eventually be OK if he doesn’t get beaten down first.

during fall camp Dalton took all the first team reps. Bilichek on other hand pretty much gave Jones the first team reps almost from the very beginning. 

If you go look at college stats and what the analyst knew-fields is actually more accurate than any other quarterback that was drafted and that’s including long and down field throws.  With the right coach and an offensive line he could be doing everything Kyler Murray is doing and then some.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2021, 07:18:13 PM
Burrow throws for 416yds and 3 TDs as Ravens go down,Lions kept it close until the last minutes 28-19 they go down
 to the Rams
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 24, 2021, 10:58:05 PM
It's reeeeeally pouring in SF.  Those were the most fun games to play in back in HS.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2021, 12:05:05 AM
depending on the air temp 

probably didn't need to worry in Florida
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2021, 08:38:59 AM
Yeah, I considered that, and even though it was up in SF, it didn't seem that it was very cold.

To put my HS experience in context, the coldest game I ever played in was in Daytona Beach, lol.  It was raining and 40s/50s.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on October 25, 2021, 10:24:41 AM
The Bears won't amount to anything so long as the McCaskey family retains ownership of the team.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2021, 10:28:45 AM
that's fine with this Viking fan
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 26, 2021, 07:49:46 AM
The crapfest that was the Saints getting past the Seahawks in rainy Seattle last night, not to include the numerous unsportsmanlike conduct penalties between Lattimore and Metcalf, would be what it’s like to watch the Bears play themselves. The quarterbacking was unwatchable. As bad as Geno Smith always is so was Jamie’s Winston.

While the Saints merely had a bad game the Seahawks are a rotten team, and for all the blame to go around for how hopeless the Seahawks’ roster is faring without Russell Wilson - underwhelming drafting, over reliance on signing aging veterans to twilight contracts, Carroll trading away high draft picks for short terms answers - some of this is on Wilson himself.

When you demand to be the League’s highest paid QB the rest of the roster doesn’t have enough to go around. And it really shows when your QB has to watch games from the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 26, 2021, 09:55:52 PM
Unless you call me a p****, and I want to prove you correct, nothing else will be released

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32481925/nfl-investigation-washington-football-team-released-pressure-commissioner-roger-goodell-says
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 26, 2021, 10:17:19 PM
Unless you call me a p****, and I want to prove you correct, nothing else will be released

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32481925/nfl-investigation-washington-football-team-released-pressure-commissioner-roger-goodell-says
Lmao. Wow.

Roger Goodell is exactly what Jon Gruden said he is in those emails. 

F#ck Roger Goodell.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 26, 2021, 11:44:28 PM
Lmao. Wow.

Roger Goodell is exactly what Jon Gruden said he is in those emails.

F#ck Roger Goodell.
He is Mr slave, and the NFL owners are Mr Garrison. He is well paid to know his role
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2021, 12:03:10 AM
depending on the air temp

probably didn't need to worry in Florida
RBs like it cold and rainy. They get the ball on just about every play, and no one wants to tackle them. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 27, 2021, 12:07:15 AM
RBs like it cold and rainy. They get the ball on just about every play, and no one wants to tackle them.
Yup.  The big switch has been how so much of the NFL's passing game is timing related. The best quarterbacks I think enjoy playing in the snow, because their timing routes still work, but the DBs can't adjust. Brady and Rodgers are nearly unbeatable in the snow
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 27, 2021, 07:33:55 PM
I watched the MNF with Peyton and Eli calling the game on ESPN2, and I gotta say I think that's my preferred format from now on. 

And a little Marshawn Lynch F-bomb live on the air was fun too. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 27, 2021, 07:43:28 PM
 Brady and Rodgers are nearly unbeatable in the snow
Brady's been pretty good in Florida also
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 27, 2021, 08:57:08 PM
I watched the MNF with Peyton and Eli calling the game on ESPN2, and I gotta say I think that's my preferred format from now on.

And a little Marshawn Lynch F-bomb live on the air was fun too.
This. Other broadcasts are just unwatchable to me in comparison. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 28, 2021, 08:21:05 AM
So in a really strange story, Brett Favre received $1.1 million from the state of Mississippi's welfare funds for a bunch of no show speeches. No show jobs? Lol. This sounds like some mafia shit. The only reason he has repaid anything, is because everything all came to light after a sweeping investigation which lead to now disgraced former Mississippi Department of Human Services director John Davis being indicted and charged in one of that state's largest embezzlement cases in history.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32490476/brett-favre-repays-600k-mississippi-welfare-case-state-seeks-228k-interest


That Brett Favre, stand-up guy I tell ya.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2021, 08:23:30 PM
well, we can all hope the Packers and Rogers get a beat down!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2021, 11:49:03 PM
Cards upended and Rodgers didn't have his starting WR's because of covid.Cards exciting but predictable,72 Dolphins are smiling
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 29, 2021, 07:33:15 AM
Cards upended and Rodgers didn't have his starting WR's because of covid.Cards exciting but predictable,72 Dolphins are smiling
I think even they would rather delay it by a week than see the Packers win
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2021, 08:25:45 AM
the last 3 minutes of the game was fun, until it wasn't
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2021, 09:19:40 AM
that was one of the best games all season. 

LaFleur is just not a good coach. That team is winning in spite of him. I think Rodgers realizes this- and my guess is THAT is his biggest beef with the Packers.

Kyler Murray made a huge mistake throwing that pick to end the game. He's an awesome player- but still young and learning. You have to throw a ball to where only your guy and your guy alone can get it or it's INC in that situation. Really, that might fall on Kliff- he probably should've just elected to kick the FG and take it to OT. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2021, 09:25:08 AM
if the WR gets his head around, it very well may have been the game winner
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2021, 09:27:07 AM
IMHO both Kyler and Lamar are on a similiar trajectory.They can run like the wind and are exciting but have to develop a throwers mindset..Those teams are good enough that they won't be drafting high and have to develop roster if they're getting to and winning Conference Championships
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2021, 09:30:56 AM
IMHO both Kyler and Lamar are on a similiar trajectory.They can run like the wind and are exciting but have to develop a throwers mindset..Those teams are good enough that they won't be drafting high and have to develop roster if they're getting to and winning Conference Championships
Kyler is a hell of a passer. He's far ahead of where Lamar is at the moment imo.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2021, 09:38:07 AM
They both have arms no doubt it's just practice and honing.How do either react when they're not boat racing some and are behind late and the opposing defense selling out to stop the run.Some teams still practice that Defense thingy
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 29, 2021, 10:15:51 AM
if the WR gets his head around, it very well may have been the game winner
Exactly. That ball was thrown to where only his player would have a chance at it. AJG was blocking out the defender and was between him and the QB. 

Only problem was that he wasn't paying attention. He let it go right by him. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on October 29, 2021, 10:27:37 AM
I watched the MNF with Peyton and Eli calling the game on ESPN2, and I gotta say I think that's my preferred format from now on.

And a little Marshawn Lynch F-bomb live on the air was fun too.

This is all I'll do if I'm going to spend a Monday night watching NFL.  And yeah, Beast Mode dropped 3 S-bombs and 1 F.  

In his defense, he admitted to being drunk, and I'm pretty sure he was high too.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2021, 10:33:37 AM
Exactly. That ball was thrown to where only his player would have a chance at it. AJG was blocking out the defender and was between him and the QB.

Only problem was that he wasn't paying attention. He let it go right by him.
that was like a corner route back shoulder throw to back of end-zone- and it was a really low throw. NOT the throw you make in that situation imo.

You throw a HIGH jump ball fade to your best jump ball WR (D-HOP) - and throw it sky high to where only your guy can get it- get PI call- or it's out of bounds.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2021, 11:54:36 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1453709770184134663
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2021, 11:57:09 AM
Stop the insanity 🤣
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 29, 2021, 02:52:52 PM
Roger Goodell out there doing god's work, for a small $64 million a year stipend
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2021, 02:54:49 PM
Unfathomable,a wolf in sheep's clothing convinced him and his minions are with the other guy
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on October 29, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Roger Goodell out there doing god's work, for a small $64 million a year stipend
The fact that he makes this much money per year blows my mind. Literally anyone can do that job.

Not to mention in this $64 million a year pay package is his unlimited use of private jets paid for by NFL. Apparently NFL owners agreed to pay for him to use private jets basically whenever the hell he wants 24/7-365. This little perk alone has to got to cost millions more. The man makes SIXTY FOUR GOD DAMN MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR- he can afford to buy his own plane or sign up with Netjets.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2021, 10:36:34 PM
https://youtu.be/Kz1nhPZLyHw
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
https://youtu.be/Q0VGmQ4SvTY
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 31, 2021, 12:37:34 AM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1454666942661332997?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on October 31, 2021, 12:48:31 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1454666942661332997?s=20
I will gladly be in that kind of slavery for that kind of money
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on October 31, 2021, 02:56:27 PM
I think Joey Harrington right now might be better than Jared Goff
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 31, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
Getting spanked,played against them a few weeks in my pool and they kept them close.Fade and then they tank - SMDH
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
Justin Fields having a good day
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 31, 2021, 03:41:53 PM
Jeebis Browns get down to the 20 and cough it up - jarvis landry,who hasn't fumbled in 3 yrs.Wouldn't mind but it's vs the Squeelers.
Squeelers 15
Browns     10
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 31, 2021, 03:44:48 PM
Justin Fields having a good day
Garrapolo having a better day.  Bears have only had to punt once- but their D is letting them down.

(https://i.imgur.com/LZlJ2N5.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 31, 2021, 03:48:46 PM
Damn Landry just drops the ball - get him outta there
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on October 31, 2021, 03:52:59 PM
Freakin' Higgins jumps off sides they are their own worst enemy
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2021, 07:11:03 PM
Jeebis Browns get down to the 20 and cough it up - jarvis landry,who hasn't fumbled in 3 yrs.Wouldn't mind but it's vs the Squeelers.
Squeelers 15
Browns    10
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p526x296/252336131_10220853409827568_2036908244549253041_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=iRcQO1dWDmAAX-N_5ir&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=7c29cfa223631f1a74508c41aad28022&oe=6183B1FB)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 01, 2021, 10:25:14 AM
He is Mr slave, and the NFL owners are Mr Garrison. He is well paid to know his role

Only until recently have I realized what Roger Goodell really is. It’s not that Goodell, in particular, is “good” for the NFL because of the ten figure TV deals he’s negotiated. No, because a woodchuck could negotiate a profitable TV for the NFL. Goodell is in power because he’s a willing and effective FIXER for Billionaires.

The NFL has at least 7 or 8 soulless owners at any given time. It often takes cold ruthlessness to be a Billionaire. And because the NFL needs owners it needs whatever few Billionaires it can get, which puts the League’s commissioner in position of having to be the fixer for however many corrupt Billionaires it takes to fill team ownerships. Goodell’s millions are earned by hiding where the bodies are buried and scrubbing the latest PR crime scene well enough to hide the nature of its owners. Did it for Robert Kraft too.

It’s not only Goodell muzzling the emails. The NHL kept a decade long lid on the Chicago Blackhawks assault investigation. And it’s even worse overseas. The Premier League recently approved the sale of Newcastle United to a Saudi Arabian shadow wealth fund flagrantly titled “Public Investment Fund,” which is completely controlled by the same Crown Prince that ordered the assassination of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi three years ago.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 01, 2021, 10:53:22 AM
Goodell is in power because he’s a willing and effective FIXER for Billionaires.

The NFL has at least 7 or 8 soulless owners at any given time. It often takes cold ruthlessness to be a Billionaire. And because the NFL needs owners it needs whatever few Billionaires it can get,


This is exactly it,our economy is going south and these uber rich shit stains are pumping sunshine up the publics ass.The meager paying jobs their venues provide doesn't balance out the tax money put into them.I've voted against 3 "Sin Taxes" for the Browns/Beisbol/Cavaliers .They have hood winked the masses and the political shills that are worried about their jobs instead of allocating many,many millions in tax revenue appropriately.This has been a problem with these Pirates for decades
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on November 01, 2021, 11:42:29 AM
Goddell made Jerry Richardson sell the Panthers for a lot less than what Snyder is neck deep in.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 01, 2021, 12:48:04 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1454666942661332997?s=20
at this point, this guy should just kill himself. he has literally become an embarrassment. 

the verbal diarrhea that comes out of his mouth is insane. Patrick Mahomes & Dax Prescott are making FORTY F#KING MILLION DOLLARS a year for playing a children's backyard game when the average American is struggling to just get by working bullshit jobs for nothing wages, but somehow NFL multi-millionaires are akin to slaves. The guy really is a tone deaf moron. 

and this narrative that he didn't get starting jobs handed to him because he was blackballed is insane. he didn't play in the NFL again because the guy sucked at actually playing QB. He was a fluke who went on a great run and then got figured out- and he could not adjust once NFL defensive co-ordinators figured him out. He was an average at best passer and wildly inconsistent and inaccurate. 

Denver actually offered him a shot at being a back-up and potentially winning the starting job which would've involved him taking a pay-cut and he turned Denver down. The guy had a moment in the sun but so did Rick Mirer. He was not some awesome player who got blackballed. He was a career journeyman back-up at best. The NFL does not care about shit if you are an amazing football player. They have proven this time and time again. DeShaun Watson has like 23 women accusing him for sexual assault/rape and you have teams still trying to trade for him for christ sake. Why? Because he is an AMAZING NFL QB. 

Colin Kapernick was a mediocre QB at best- and honestly I'd say he was trending towards shitty. Maybe somebody should've given him a shot- but spare me the BS narrative that he was some superstar player they blackballed. Fact of the matter is he was just not good- and NFL teams only put up with the circus, drama or bullshit of a player if he's like REALLY GOOD. And Kap just ain't that good. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on November 01, 2021, 06:23:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfVFHsoSM5A
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 02, 2021, 04:23:24 PM
His career is (rightfully) done, and another life was cut short.  Just sad all around

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32534609/las-vegas-raiders-wr-henry-ruggs-charged-dui-resulting-death
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 04:33:35 PM
His career is (rightfully) done, and another life was cut short.  Just sad all around

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32534609/las-vegas-raiders-wr-henry-ruggs-charged-dui-resulting-death
💔.  Damn. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 02, 2021, 04:45:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfVFHsoSM5A
Great stuff MDT.  Thanks for posting it. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 02, 2021, 04:46:32 PM
His career is (rightfully) done, and another life was cut short.  Just sad all around

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32534609/las-vegas-raiders-wr-henry-ruggs-charged-dui-resulting-death
this is beyond sad. 

Raiders are a complete mess between Gruden and now this. Wow.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 02, 2021, 05:33:16 PM
They are 1st in the AFC West.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2021, 08:33:48 AM
Rams are finalizing a deal to trade for Denver Broncos All-Pro OLB Von Miller.

I guess the Rams are like...who the hell needs draft picks these days? They won't have a 1st round draft pick til 2040 at this rate.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 03, 2021, 08:36:55 AM
The Browns thru the years should have went that route - at least you have a known commodity
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 03, 2021, 08:47:27 AM
Rams are finalizing a deal to trade for Denver Broncos All-Pro OLB Von Miller.

I guess the Rams are like...who the hell needs draft picks these days? They won't have a 1st round draft pick til 2040 at this rate.
They had the #1 overall pick and drafted Jared Goff.  So they are perhaps correct to not want them
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2021, 11:27:59 AM
They had the #1 overall pick and drafted Jared Goff.  So they are perhaps correct to not want them
Lmao. Fact.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2021, 11:28:49 AM
They are 1st in the AFC West.
For now. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 03, 2021, 11:38:44 AM
Interim guy is undefeated. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2021, 11:43:43 AM
Interim guy is undefeated.
so what you're saying is Michigan should fire Harbaugh- let Mike Hart be the interim and he'll go undefeated! GOT IT. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 03, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
I did not say any of these words that you are putting into my mouth. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2021, 11:53:05 AM
Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has tested positive for COVID-19 and will not play against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday, a source confirmed to ESPN.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 11:27:37 AM
News that Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers tested positive for COVID-19, is unvaccinated and will miss this weekend's game against the Chiefs shocked the NFL world on Wednesday -- and not just because he said in August that he had already been "immunized." Since training camp opened in late July, Rodgers had not been publicly observed to be following any of the obvious protocols for unvaccinated NFL players, as agreed upon this summer by the NFL and NFL Players Association. The NFL is currently reviewing the situation with the Packers, per a league statement on Wednesday afternoon.

So what's the deal here? Did Rodgers mislead everyone about his vaccination status? Was he flouting NFL rules? Were the Packers or the league looking the other way?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 04, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
Give the franchise the SMU treatment
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 11:30:21 AM
best Idea all month!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 04, 2021, 11:31:42 AM
Didn't they make him show his dumb little card? Or did they just take his word for it? 

Maybe he paid off one of the shot givers to fill out his card for him? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on November 04, 2021, 11:31:52 AM
Aaron Rodgers seems like a bit of a douche.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 04, 2021, 11:32:42 AM
Well he did go to Cal Berkeley. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2021, 11:46:49 AM
Aaron Rodgers seems like a bit of a douche.
understatement of the month
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on November 04, 2021, 11:47:34 AM
understatement of the month
;)

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 04, 2021, 11:52:27 AM
understatement of the month
https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1455923239071494146?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 04, 2021, 12:06:30 PM
Didn't they make him show his dumb little card? Or did they just take his word for it?

Maybe he paid off one of the shot givers to fill out his card for him?
Think he was cooking something in a bubbling vat - eye of newt,fermented walrus colon, nads of a Yeti - that type of thing
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 04, 2021, 05:53:18 PM
considering the science is in and it's shown that fully vaccinated people transmit the virus same as unvaccinated people- this is a big nothing burger. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 05, 2021, 11:17:31 AM
Aaron Rodgers seems like a bit of a douche.


When it comes to getting the VAX, turns out Aaron Rodgers' "double check" really is "discount."

As for last night's Thursday game between the Jets and the Colts, I tried dutifully watching but only lasted halfway into the third quarter.

With Zach Wilson and Joe Flacco both looking like Planet Fitness trainers in gym clothes on the Jets sideline, I've never heard of Mike White, presumably from the NFL's Backup QB Central Casting, who was trotted out in their place. Had to look up that White played his college ball at South Florida and Western Kentucky.

Quarterbacking on the other side was Carson Wentz whose stat line (22/30 272yds 3tds) bettered a 90 QBR for the Colts. It's almost a relief to watch Carson Wentz now that the announcers calling his games have fully moved on from endlessly hyping Wentz up in a way that holds him to unreasonable, HOF level expectations on every play. And Wentz looks a lot better for getting out from under the radar of the Eagles obsessive media and fans.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 05, 2021, 02:12:15 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1454666942661332997?s=20
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 05, 2021, 04:32:53 PM

When it comes to getting the VAX, turns out Aaron Rodgers' "double check" really is "discount."

As for last night's Thursday game between the Jets and the Colts, I tried dutifully watching but only lasted halfway into the third quarter.

With Zach Wilson and Joe Flacco both looking like Planet Fitness trainers in gym clothes on the Jets sideline, I've never heard of Mike White, presumably from the NFL's Backup QB Central Casting, who was trotted out in their place. Had to look up that White played his college ball at South Florida and Western Kentucky.

Quarterbacking on the other side was Carson Wentz whose stat line (22/30 272yds 3tds) bettered a 90 QBR for the Colts. It's almost a relief to watch Carson Wentz now that the announcers calling his games have fully moved on from endlessly hyping Wentz up in a way that holds him to unreasonable, HOF level expectations on every play. And Wentz looks a lot better for getting out from under the radar of the Eagles obsessive media and fans.
Thursday night NFL is the worst thing to happen to football.  They completely killed what had been a fun night of college football, because it couldn't compete with the ratings of what is generally an unwatchable NFL game.  Louisville should have been storming the field after upsetting Wake Forest last night.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2021, 02:33:43 PM
Browns release OBJ. Odell gave up 20% of his guaranteed salary to leave the Browns.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 06, 2021, 05:32:31 PM
Browns release OBJ. Odell gave up 20% of his guaranteed salary to leave the Browns.
He structured his deal in a way he could get out but be too expensive to be claimed off waivers. This guaranteeing he goes into FA and can choose his team.

And the Browns will have to cover the difference between his salary at the new team and what they owe him, so he's "cheap" enough to his new team to be paid the vet minimum. Same thing Lev Bell did a few years ago.

Savvy, not desperate.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
He structured his deal in a way he could get out but be too expensive to be claimed off waivers. This guaranteeing he goes into FA and can choose his team.

And the Browns will have to cover the difference between his salary at the new team and what they owe him, so he's "cheap" enough to his new team to be paid the vet minimum. Same thing Lev Bell did a few years ago.

Savvy, not desperate.
Oh I know, and he's probably got plenty of money if he didn't spend it all at the club, on cars, jewelry, and bitches- but I don't know if I give up 20% of whatever they owe me. That's got to be a couple million dollars in cash he's giving up this year. I'd be like- PAY ME BITCH. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2021, 06:55:21 PM
understatement of the month
understatement of the century. 

even his own family doesn't like him. lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2021, 06:57:14 PM
 I'd be like- PAY ME BITCH.
OK,shut up and play bitch could he do that?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2021, 06:58:06 PM
Sparty finds paydirt going for two and they get it 37-29
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2021, 06:58:19 PM
OK,shut up and play bitch could he do that?
that's always been his problem. he's a freaking diva. NY Giants were like- we good- and now the Browns are like- nah we good too bro- see ya!

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 07, 2021, 02:42:37 PM
First time Dalvin Cook has looked like Dalvin Cook this season
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 07, 2021, 02:43:55 PM
He structured his deal in a way he could get out but be too expensive to be claimed off waivers. This guaranteeing he goes into FA and can choose his team.

And the Browns will have to cover the difference between his salary at the new team and what they owe him, so he's "cheap" enough to his new team to be paid the vet minimum. Same thing Lev Bell did a few years ago.

Savvy, not desperate.
He got a ton of mileage off one catch.  He's good, but even at his peak, he was overrated.  And now?  DPJ > OBJ
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 07, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
The whole "John Harbaugh asks Lamar Jackson if he wants to go for it on 4th down" narrative is the most overblown thing in the NFL.  Unless he has ever said no, why is it a story?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 03:58:43 PM
Interim Raiders coach gets his first loss. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 07, 2021, 03:59:21 PM
Naturally when I bet Baltimore, Kirk Cousins engineers a 2 minute game tying drive
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 04:09:55 PM
The Clowns pantsed the Bungals. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 04:13:06 PM
The Teal Curtain stops the Bills. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on November 07, 2021, 06:22:33 PM
Naturally when I bet Baltimore, Kirk Cousins engineers a 2 minute game tying drive
The Vikings were involved. Naturally, they soil themselves at the end. 

With big favorites losing, survivor pools might be over this week, unless everyone gets beat, whereupon everyone gets a mulligan. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 06:26:41 PM
Why is Colt McCoy QBing Arizona, and how can they be up so big under these circumstances? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 07, 2021, 06:30:49 PM
He got a ton of mileage off one catch.  He's good, but even at his peak, he was overrated.  And now?  DPJ > OBJ
Thank You I've been trying to tell these lumps,now they see the light - no odell,no problem.See last season
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 07, 2021, 06:31:52 PM
The Vikings were involved. Naturally, they soil themselves at the end.

With big favorites losing, survivor pools might be over this week, unless everyone gets beat, whereupon everyone gets a mulligan.
Loving it - as i had the Ravens and we live to fight another week 😎
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 07, 2021, 06:42:44 PM
Nick Chubb had 14 carries for 137 yds he is everything beckham will never be - say little - do much.Need a block sure,a decoy yup break tackles and bounce out of the back,of course.Just a blast to watch him  play
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 07:23:45 PM
What game was it last year where OBJ ran a reverse for a game winning TD? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 07, 2021, 08:51:05 PM
https://twitter.com/thejasonkirk/status/1457457637126283264?t=L5Ae9UuaHQQlo6GO1ymr4Q&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 07, 2021, 09:07:34 PM
That's it - a picture of a stupid smile from URBZ and a score,how have I ever lived with out this platform
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2021, 10:09:36 PM
I heard that the Raiders might pick up OBJ, since their leading receiver, well... you know. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on November 08, 2021, 01:36:40 PM
What game was it last year where OBJ ran a reverse for a game winning TD?
Cowboys Game
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 08, 2021, 06:54:41 PM
Again with the Raiders... 

https://twitter.com/Outkick/status/1457854818253410304?s=20

...and of course it had to be a Buckeye. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 08, 2021, 06:58:43 PM
https://twitter.com/patrick_mayhorn/status/1457798692795076615?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 08, 2021, 07:22:56 PM
So the Raiders had two 2020 first round picks, and both are closer to jail than their roster now?  Wow
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 08, 2021, 07:40:56 PM
I was going to click like.......hmmm
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 09, 2021, 09:58:57 AM
Steelers Crap 2021:

Thinking the Steelers bottom out and finish as the AFC North’s worst team. Big Ben is ready to collapse. They’re depending their league worst rushing attack on a rookie, Najee Harris. Which is somehow less of a worry than who might effectively block for him.

In the off season Pittsburgh lost FOUR serviceable starters – Matt Feiler, Alejandro Villanueva, and Pro Bowlers Maurkice Pouncey and David DeCastro. Their replacements, if not rookies, are inexperienced depth players, and to make matters worse, projected starter Zach Banner is out next month with knee injuries.

So along with Big Ben past his shelf life, it’s looking like he’ll be passing behind the worst OL he’s ever taken snaps from. And that could render the already overrated WRs almost useless.


Before it got wild with the Bears last night, Mike Tomlin is proving my preseason reports of the Steelers’ demise as greatly exaggerated. Pittsburgh, in controlling much of the game against the Bears displayed a well-coached formula of winning ugly with dependable defense and scoring points when you can while working around Big Ben's age inflicted limitations. Pittsburgh’s offensive line has developed much better than expected and Najee Harris is able to churn out the tougher third-n-short yards. Steelers 5-3 and keeping pace in the AFC playoff race.

Lots of bitter reaction on homer Bears radio re Justin Fields not drawing late hit penalties. Fields played great in the 4th Q. Nagy acts like a buffoon on the sideline – not sure how much longer the sad chap keeps his gig.



Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 09, 2021, 10:10:45 AM
Duh Bears
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 09, 2021, 10:30:12 AM


Lots of bitter reaction on homer Bears radio re Justin Fields not drawing late hit penalties. Fields played great in the 4th Q. Nagy acts like a buffoon on the sideline – not sure how much longer the sad chap keeps his gig.
Refs were probably distracted by all the stupid penalties the Bears committed. Complete lack of discipline.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 09, 2021, 12:03:57 PM
Yes-ouch.  Chicago committed 15 penalties of which 12 were excepted for 115 yards. This includes three lining up off sides on the defense??

The numerous late hits and helmet shots to Fields that clearly should have been called but we’re not aside
( he never complained about it so far be it for me to complain), The officiating in this game was horrendous and clearly gave Pittsburgh an enormous advantage.

They took one beautiful field touchdown throw off the board completely on a phantom call that wouldn’t have even been a good call had the file occurred. low block inside of TE box, which blocker wiffed on Watt, and was well inside TE box)

That cost the Bears four points.  Then the outrageously ridiculous taunting call and a guy who didn’t say a word, pointed anybody, or get near anyone on the other team.  That took Pittsburgh out of a punting situation and put them in field-goal range and basically gave them three more points.

Not to mention some offensive pass interference that was actually called defensive pass interference on to big plays that Pittsburgh had. 

The Bears remind me of the lions in so many ways.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 09, 2021, 04:21:54 PM
OBJ has cleared waivers and is a free agent. For the first time in his career. He gets to choose which team (of any who want him) to join, and apparently can play for league vet minimum with the Browns picking up any difference, so he's cheap to other teams. 

His contract was reduced to a single-year contract and he's apparently willing to take a short "prove it" deal this year, to play his way to a better FA contract in the offseason. 

We may find out his landing spot within the next few hours, as I'm sure his agent has spent the entire last week talking to any team he actually wants to join [and probably a few plan B teams]. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 09, 2021, 04:34:46 PM
I thought he got a bad rap in Cleveland. Also, the video his dad released showing him open was set to Everybody Hurts, which I found really funny.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 09, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
Bad rap? He wasn't or isn't a team player,watch Nick Chubb - that's what professionals do.The punk didn't like NYC,evidently ELI and his two rings were not good enough.The Diva got more press from one catch than anyone in the league.Just shut up and play, not a coincidence they rolled both last year and last sunday when he didn't figure in
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 09, 2021, 04:41:10 PM
I thought he got a bad rap in Cleveland. Also, the video his dad released showing him open was set to Everybody Hurts, which I found really funny.
Yeah, gonna have to disagree. He was a malcontent who did not want to be there, despite having his BFF Jarvis already there. 

Kinda get the feeling the guy thought he was too good for Cleveland. He got intoxicated with his hype off that one catch and in being in the Big Apple. I’d look out for one of the LA teams.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 09, 2021, 04:48:16 PM
Bad rap? He wasn't or isn't a team player,watch Nick Chubb - that's what professionals do.The punk didn't like NYC,evidently ELI and his two rings were not good enough.The Diva got more press from one catch than anyone in the league.Just shut up and play, not a coincidence they rolled both last year and last sunday when he didn't figure in
Did he say anything? I don't remember making a single statement about anything while in Cleveland. He was the embodiment of shut up and play. From what I've heard the biggest problem is Mayfield sucks throwing the routes OBJ is best at, which is why it looked so wonky all the time.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 09, 2021, 04:55:02 PM
Did he say anything? I don't remember making a single statement about anything while in Cleveland. He was the embodiment of shut up and play. From what I've heard the biggest problem is Mayfield sucks throwing the routes OBJ is best at, which is why it looked so wonky all the time.
He didn’t say anything publicly but multiple people have reported that since day one he acted like he didn’t want to be there. 

He blamed Eli and was a malcontent in NY and the Giants said see ya later and traded him, and now he’s blaming Baker and forced his way out of Cleveland. Maybe he just isn’t as good as he thinks he is and not worth the headache?

If he’s really that guy- shouldn’t matter who his QB is. Randy Moss played long stretches in Minnesota with hot garbage at QB much worse than Eli or Baker- and he still was that dude. OBJ just ain’t as good as he thinks he is. Period. One of the most over-hyped players ever.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 09, 2021, 06:28:09 PM
Did he say anything? I don't remember making a single statement about anything while in Cleveland. He was the embodiment of shut up and play. From what I've heard the biggest problem is Mayfield sucks throwing the routes OBJ is best at, which is why it looked so wonky all the time.
There were rumblings about what was said in the locker room/huddle not privy to the air waves.But OBJ was notorious for not running routes and free lancing on the field.The QB looks in a spot expecting a reciever after check offs and walla,no reciever.Kind of kills timing patterns or confidence to do as the play designs.Listened to this stuff quite a bit on 850/92.3 talk.Just disruptive enough that he thought the rules didn't pertain to him.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on November 09, 2021, 09:33:11 PM
Isn't OBJ simply WR# 1,762 in NFL history to act like a drama queen?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 09, 2021, 09:33:56 PM
yup
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 09, 2021, 10:07:58 PM

Before it got wild with the Bears last night, Mike Tomlin is proving my preseason reports of the Steelers’ demise as greatly exaggerated. Pittsburgh, in controlling much of the game against the Bears displayed a well-coached formula of winning ugly with dependable defense and scoring points when you can while working around Big Ben's age inflicted limitations. Pittsburgh’s offensive line has developed much better than expected and Najee Harris is able to churn out the tougher third-n-short yards. Steelers 5-3 and keeping pace in the AFC playoff race.

Lots of bitter reaction on homer Bears radio re Justin Fields not drawing late hit penalties. Fields played great in the 4th Q. Nagy acts like a buffoon on the sideline – not sure how much longer the sad chap keeps his gig.




This is why any discussion of him taking the LSU or USC job is hilarious. You don't leave the NFL for college, even before the transfer portal, if staying in the NFL is an option. And if he wants to stay in the NFL, he can. He and the Steelers may reach an amicable breakup after this year, just because he's been there for so long and they are ready for a rebuild, but if he wants to coach next year, it sure is hell won't be in college, and any NFL team with an opening would be happy to have him
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 10, 2021, 08:02:41 AM
Isn't OBJ simply WR# 1,762 in NFL history to act like a drama queen Cancer?
FIFY
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 10:48:03 AM
This is why any discussion of him taking the LSU or USC job is hilarious. You don't leave the NFL for college, even before the transfer portal, if staying in the NFL is an option. And if he wants to stay in the NFL, he can. He and the Steelers may reach an amicable breakup after this year, just because he's been there for so long and they are ready for a rebuild, but if he wants to coach next year, it sure is hell won't be in college, and any NFL team with an opening would be happy to have him
yeah- if Tomlin and the Steelers part amicably, every single NFL team with an opening will be beating down his door to hire him. I think he'd be a GREAT fit in Chicago with that young QB. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2021, 10:53:32 AM
This is why any discussion of him taking the LSU or USC job is hilarious. You don't leave the NFL for college, even before the transfer portal, if staying in the NFL is an option. And if he wants to stay in the NFL, he can. He and the Steelers may reach an amicable breakup after this year, just because he's been there for so long and they are ready for a rebuild, but if he wants to coach next year, it sure is hell won't be in college, and any NFL team with an opening would be happy to have him
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
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he's a weird guy. 

And honestly- if Michigan didn't have all those connections to him- no way he goes back to college imo. His dad coached there for Bo, he grew up in Ann Arbor during his formative years and was a ball boy for Michigan as a teenager, he played there and was a star QB there under Bo, and the guy worships everything Bo Schembechler. 

My guess is he thought he would go there- turn it around- win big and then go back to the NFL. The fact that he hasn't beaten Ohio State or won shit is probably the only reason he's still there going on Year 7. IF he had gone in- beat the snot out of Ohio State and won a couple B1G titles and a National Title in 4-5 years- my guess is he'd be back in the NFL right now.

The fact that he's pretty much fallen flat on his face and been a dud- is why he's still at Michigan, imo.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2021, 11:01:01 AM
yeah- if Tomlin and the Steelers part amicably, every single NFL team with an opening will be beating down his door to hire him. I think he'd be a GREAT fit in Chicago with that young QB.
the Vikings would fire Zimmer tomorrow if they could get Tomlin back 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 05:12:39 PM
seeing people bring up Kapernick in this whole Rodgers drama, saying stupid shit like "all Kapernick did was take a knee and he lost his career, Aaron Rodgers endangered lives and he only got a $14,000 fine!"

Newsflash: Kapernick was not good at football. Aaron Rodgers is legitimately arguably the most talented Quarterback to ever play in the NFL- and he is one of the 5 or 10 greatest QB's to ever play in the history of the NFL. I'd argue top 5. Kapernick is not in the same universe as Aaron Rodgers. IF he was, he could've taken a knee, refused a vaccine, clubbed a baby seal, kicked a dog, and taken 3 shits on the field while he was taking a knee and he'd have an NFL job TODAY.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2021, 05:16:01 PM
why do ridicules comparison's have to be created about things that are completely unrelated?

stupid is as stupid does 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 05:17:56 PM
top 5 QB's in NFL history imo; 

Tom Brady
Joe Montana 
Peyton Manning 
John Elway 
Aaron Rodgers 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
Most people that carry water for Krapperdick wouldn't know a football from their arse. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 05:28:30 PM
Most people that carry water for Krapperdick wouldn't know a football from their arse.
Kapernick career completion % is 58.9%. This is GOD awful in the modern game. If you're not completing at least 60% today- you absolutely suck at throwing the football.

Rodgers? His career completion % is 65%. His TD to INT ratio is a MIND-BOGGLING 4.66 to 1 and is by far the best in NFL history. Rodgers has thrown for 429 TD's to 92 INT's. At the rate Rodgers throws INT's- he'll have a legit shot to hit 500 TD's before he hits 100 INT's. His MVP season last year he completed 70% of his passes- this year he's completing just shy of 68%. 

If Kapernick was anywhere near as good at playing football as Aaron Rodgers is- he'd have a job right now. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 10, 2021, 05:29:59 PM
top 5 QB's in NFL history imo;

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Peyton Manning
John Elway
Aaron Rodgers
In your life
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 10, 2021, 05:33:45 PM
Kapernick career completion % is 58.9%. This is GOD awful in the modern game. If you're not completing at least 60% today- you absolutely suck at throwing the football.

Rodgers? His career completion % is 65%. His TD to INT ratio is a MIND-BOGGLING 4.66 to 1 and is by far the best in NFL history. Rodgers has thrown for 429 TD's to 92 INT's. At the rate Rodgers throws INT's- he'll have a legit shot to hit 500 TD's before he hits 100 INT's. His MVP season last year he completed 70% of his passes- this year he's completing just shy of 68%.

If Kapernick was anywhere near as good at playing football as Aaron Rodgers is- he'd have a job right now.
You are assuming that they have the ability to form opinions of their own, that haven't been spoon fed to them by the MSM. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 10, 2021, 05:37:13 PM
Newsflash: Kapernick was not good at football. Aaron Rodgers is legitimately arguably the most talented Quarterback to ever play in the NFL- and he is one of the 5 or 10 greatest QB's to ever play in the history of the NFL. I'd argue top 5. Kapernick is not in the same universe as Aaron Rodgers. IF he was, he could've taken a knee, refused a vaccine, clubbed a baby seal, kicked a dog, and taken 3 shits on the field while he was taking a knee and he'd have an NFL job TODAY.
Take that back about the dog
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 10, 2021, 05:59:25 PM
In your life
he's been told stories about Joe Montana
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 10, 2021, 06:14:12 PM
Most people that carry water for Krapperdick wouldn't know a football from their arse.
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 10, 2021, 08:18:25 PM
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Exactly, you're proving the point LOL. This is the same guy that thought Joe Milton, John O'Korn, and Wilton Speight were good. Lol.

After 7 years of watching Jim's offenses/QB's- dude has NO f*kin clue about high level QB play or modern passing offenses. Andrew Luck was flat out dumb luck. And Luck never put up huge stats at Stanford. It wasn't until he was in the NFL that he started going BOMBS away and putting up huge numbers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 10, 2021, 08:21:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/5FQJlvfm8uQ?t=8
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 11, 2021, 11:09:03 PM
Yeah, gonna have to disagree. He was a malcontent who did not want to be there, despite having his BFF Jarvis already there.

Kinda get the feeling the guy thought he was too good for Cleveland. He got intoxicated with his hype off that one catch and in being in the Big Apple. I’d look out for one of the LA teams.
Called it. He signed with the LA Rams. 

He wants to be a big celebrity in a big market more than he wants to be a great football player imo.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2021, 11:29:56 PM
well, Bron Bron is on his side
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on November 11, 2021, 11:35:29 PM
Bronn?  

This guy????

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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 12, 2021, 12:07:27 AM
Bronn? 

This guy????

(https://i.imgur.com/E9snTEG.png)
No this Bron….

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(https://i.imgur.com/sQYFc5R.jpg)‘’(https://i.imgur.com/a0YoCQO.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 13, 2021, 10:14:01 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32615059/jon-gruden-suing-nfl-roger-goodell-saying-forced-las-vegas-raiders-job
Jon Gruden suing NFL, Roger Goodell, saying they forced him out of Las Vegas Raiders job

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 13, 2021, 10:33:18 AM
Beautiful.

Let all the dirt come out.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2021, 02:02:16 PM
Pats go on a 99 yd scoring drive....against the BROWNS,who haven't converted a 3rd down yet
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 14, 2021, 02:11:41 PM
absolute shocker in DC as Washington has been really dominating the Brady Bucs 13-3. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2021, 04:52:52 PM
the Detroit Lions did NOT lose!!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 14, 2021, 04:56:45 PM
the Detroit Lions did NOT lose!!
still winless.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 14, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
still winless.
Yeah but they aren't one of the 30 tieless NFL teams!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
The Steelers will squeak into the playoffs because of the tie. Same number of wins, one fewer loss. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on November 14, 2021, 09:39:25 PM

the Detroit Lions did NOT lose!!
Everyone turn to the right and kiss your sister!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 14, 2021, 11:06:40 PM
I'm absolutely shocked that a guy wearing a Connor Cook alternate jersey is unathletic

https://twitter.com/mulho2mj/status/1459996366860693505?t=Com9CdkZatxvYHLlDNmDzA&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 15, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
Matt LaFleur outcoached Pete Carroll throughout Green Bay’s 17-0 win over Seattle yesterday. From their game plan to leaning into their advantages (home field, colder weather) to working around their disadvantages (Rodgers lack of preparation), LaFluer’s strategy kept the Packers a step ahead of the Seahawks who more or less relied on Russell Wilson’s return from injury as lazy excuse to put everything back on Wilson’s shoulders.

Many will say the Seahawks defense played great – true, but part of the Packers slow start on offense was by design of focusing on their ground game and extending drives in order to keep Seattle’s D on the field while feeling out when things might finally click for Rodgers who, having no passing reps in two weeks, tossed a number of off-target passes and couldn’t establish his instinctive connections with Adams/Cobb/Jones until the second half.

When both Seattle’s defense and Russell Wilson finally gave out (and Pete Carroll attempted no adjustments) Green Bay’s methodical approach took over the game late, amassing two long 10-play drives to tack on overdue touchdowns as the snow began falling.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 15, 2021, 03:03:05 PM
Everything about Seattle kind of feels stale.  Not sure what the answer is though
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 15, 2021, 06:10:07 PM
fire Pete the cheat

he can probably go back to USC w/o penalty now
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 15, 2021, 08:43:33 PM
Everything about Seattle kind of feels stale.  Not sure what the answer is though
they gave Wilson too much money. hard to build a team when your QB takes up $37 mil of the cap. 

Dallas and KC are going to run into same issues shortly. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 15, 2021, 09:27:02 PM
and Green Bay, right?

I hate the Packers but, they have a defense
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 15, 2021, 09:29:21 PM
so, Tom Brady pimps sammiches he doesn't eat and...

Gronk pimps insurance he doesn't qualify for?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 15, 2021, 10:14:29 PM
so, Tom Brady pimps sammiches he doesn't eat and...

Gronk pimps insurance he doesn't qualify for?
'MERICA baby. Nation of money grubbing whores run by a bunch of money grubbing whores in Congress.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 15, 2021, 10:33:59 PM
Gronk and Brady probably need to upgrade their yachts
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 15, 2021, 10:46:56 PM
so, Tom Brady pimps sammiches he doesn't eat and...

Gronk pimps insurance he doesn't qualify for?
We just need Phillip Rivers pitching condoms
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 15, 2021, 11:12:46 PM
We just need Phillip Rivers pitching condoms
Lmao
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 16, 2021, 01:06:57 AM
We just need Phillip Rivers pitching condoms
Guessed i missed it - what'd he do
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 16, 2021, 06:59:26 AM
Guessed i missed it - what'd he do
He has like 9 kids
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 16, 2021, 09:32:52 AM
they gave Wilson too much money. hard to build a team when your QB takes up $37 mil of the cap.

Dallas and KC are going to run into same issues shortly.
Surprised Teams haven't learned this lesson,Baltimore after the 2012 season.Look at their 2000 season - that's how you do it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 16, 2021, 09:44:02 AM
Everything about Seattle kind of feels stale.  Not sure what the answer is though
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll took issue with several calls that went against his team in its 17-0 loss to the Green Bay Packers and said the officials were a "huge part" of Sunday's game.

"I've got some gripes about this," Carroll told 710 ESPN Seattle on his Monday radio show.

The three plays that Carroll discussed in detail were Russell Wilson's first-quarter scramble, Aaron Rodgers' second-quarter fumble and Kevin King's interception of Wilson in the third quarter.

The Packers led 3-0 when Rodgers fumbled a snap near midfield. Seattle's Darrell Taylor emerged from the pile with the football, but officials had already ruled that Green Bay recovered. The ruling was upheld after Carroll challenged.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 19, 2021, 12:12:41 PM
Patriots are 7-4 and Mac Jones looking like the best QB in the draft so far for this NFL season. Not talking long term- just this season. He's also playing with the best head coach, best OL, and best defense of the bunch- but I have to say- I am a little shocked.

Did not think they'd be 7-4 and did not think he would be as good as he is thus far.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 19, 2021, 12:16:46 PM
Antonio Brown being accused of getting a fake vaccination card...lovely....

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32662241/antonio-brown-obtained-fake-covid-19-vaccination-card-former-chef-alleges
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 19, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Wasn't J&J vax taken off the market?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 19, 2021, 12:33:06 PM
some folks just can't behave
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 19, 2021, 12:51:31 PM
Wasn't J&J vax taken off the market?
No. Short pause due to a concern about rare blood clotting issue in women, IIRC. Investigated and not proven to be anything serious, and then it was back on. Still available today. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2021, 02:14:59 PM
Cam Newton is BACK, baby!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2021, 04:02:39 PM
Erin Rogers swallows
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 21, 2021, 04:05:20 PM
Erin Rogers swallows
yeah, but does Erin Andrews?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2021, 04:08:36 PM
Cam Newton is BACK, baby!
and still a loooooser
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2021, 04:12:15 PM
and Da Bears suck
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 21, 2021, 06:15:18 PM
Watching Chefs/Cowgirls

why not just get rid of intentional grounding?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 21, 2021, 11:40:24 PM
I almost never stay up for the end of SNF, but I'm glad I did this week.  What a nutty 4th quarter
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 22, 2021, 09:20:03 AM
Watching Chefs/Cowgirls


As every radio guy I listened to left the Chiefs for dead after the Titans blanked the Mahomes/Reid offense 27-3 a month ago, Kansas City has since won 4 straight to take the lead in the AFC West at 7-4. The star in the Chiefs win yesterday Vs the Cowboys wasn’t Mahomes or Tyreek Hill but rather the KC defensive front seven which overwhelmed the Cowboys OL and never let Dak Prescott settle into a passing rhythm. Winning 19-9 it looked like one of those January wildcard games dictated by the cold weather. A positive for the Cowboys, however, is their defense mostly negating the Chiefs offense which mostly capitalized off shorter drives made possible by a turnover from the Chiefs D.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 22, 2021, 09:57:01 AM
Weren't COwboys also down their top two receivers?  Dak didn't look great though
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on November 22, 2021, 10:14:03 AM
Weren't COwboys also down their top two receivers?  Dak didn't look great though
Cowboys down their best o-lineman, top WR (Cooper), and then #2 WR (Lamb) went out halfway with a concussion.  And Dak is still not really close to 100%.

Chiefs played well for sure and earned the win, but this Cowboys offense is going to struggle against pretty much anyone under these circumstances.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 24, 2021, 01:31:48 PM
biggest NFL 100 All-Time Team snubs? 
https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/roster

I've got 5....Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Charles Woodson, Terrell Owens, and Calvin Johnson.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 24, 2021, 01:37:18 PM
So who do you guys have making the playoffs? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 24, 2021, 01:44:45 PM
So who do you guys have making the playoffs?
AFC: 
East - Bills
West - Chiefs
North - Ravens
South - Titans

Wildcards: Patriots, Chargers, & Bengals

NFC: 
East - Cowboys
West - Cardinals
North - Packers 
South - Bucs 

Wildcards: Rams, Saints & Eagles
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 24, 2021, 01:45:02 PM
so, it's limited to 100 years

just a few Viking greats

Adrian Peterson

Fran Tarkenton

Ron Yary

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 24, 2021, 01:47:00 PM
Adrian Peterson
he's the only one of that list that's got a great case imo. RB position is just freaking stacked. probably moreso than any other position.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 24, 2021, 02:06:28 PM
biggest NFL 100 All-Time Team snubs?
https://www.nfl.com/100/all-time-team/roster

I've got 5....Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Charles Woodson, Terrell Owens, and Calvin Johnson.
Obviously I share the frustration at leaving Brees off.

The problem for both of them, though, is the era they played in, and the limited number of rings they each won.

Brady was a lock. Not that I necessarily think he's a "better" QB in so many ways than Rodgers or Brees, but you're simply not going to argue against a QB that led the team to 7 Super Bowl wins in his career--especially with the ability to do it on two different rosters.

Manning is widely seen as one of the most cerebral QBs in the game, the sort of player who is going to beat you with his understanding of the game rather than his acumen throwing the ball--which he also had. If he'd stuck with the Colts and only won one ring, he might be battling with Rodgers and Brees for that spot, but after going to a new team and winning again there, he pretty much cemented himself on this list.

For both Rodgers and Brees, their achievements in another era might have gotten them onto the list, but I suspect the people who put this thing together didn't want it to be dominated by contemporary QBs, so they're left off.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 24, 2021, 02:30:14 PM
Rogers is a whiny sissy boy -  selfish crybaby pee pants

hopefully keeps him off the list
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 25, 2021, 12:50:18 PM
Every Thanksgiving, as soon as the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade gets turned on, it feels more and more antiquated by the year. As do the Lions who play next, made all the worse this year by matching Detroit against lifeless Chicago. Why won’t the Bears go ahead a fire Nagy already? I’ve seen this sentiment penned by a number of Chicago’s beat writers – “In its more than 100-year history, the team has never fired a coach midseason” – as though some moral virtue is boldly upheld by waiting for Nagy to ungraciously finish the season. Maintaining a sense of decency doesn’t/shouldn’t count for crap in sports, speaking of antiquated.

Lions-Bears tied at 0.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 25, 2021, 01:25:26 PM
Every Thanksgiving, as soon as the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade gets turned on, it feels more and more antiquated by the year. As do the Lions who play next, made all the worse this year by matching Detroit against lifeless Chicago. Why won’t the Bears go ahead a fire Nagy already? I’ve seen this sentiment penned by a number of Chicago’s beat writers – “In its more than 100-year history, the team has never fired a coach midseason” – as though some moral virtue is boldly upheld by waiting for Nagy to ungraciously finish the season. Maintaining a sense of decency doesn’t/shouldn’t count for crap in sports, speaking of antiquated.

Lions-Bears tied at 0.

I've never liked it, but the kids actually do.  They've leaned more into the musical acts, and away from just showing floats.  It's one of those things I don't mind putting on while I'm cooking, cleaning, prepping, in the morning.  Feels like Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on November 25, 2021, 01:44:42 PM
Kids like that stuff, good background.    I love my 12 year Olds reaction when she saw bears lions kickoff.   Oh,  the pro football.   (Fart sound)  shuts off tv.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 25, 2021, 10:15:00 PM
Rogers is a whiny sissy boy -  selfish crybaby pee pants

hopefully keeps him off the list
don't disagree with you on his personality- he seems like a major league bitch and he's shrunk in a lot of big moments in the post-season. having said that- he is still to this day the best thrower of the football I have ever seen. Never thought I'd see someone better at throwing the football than Dan Marino- but this guy just is.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 25, 2021, 10:19:00 PM
Bears get the last second W vs a winless team by a FG. But does that really do anything to save Nagy? I doubt it. I think Chicago should think long and hard about making a play for Ryan Day- think that'd have to be appealing to reunite their young 1st round QB with Day.

Lions might be the only team in NFL history to have two winless seasons. Impressive.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 25, 2021, 11:43:24 PM
 I think Chicago should think long and hard about making a play for Ryan Day- think that'd have to be appealing to reunite their young 1st round QB with Day.
You're just trying to get him out of Columbus...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 26, 2021, 07:32:53 AM
I think Chicago should think long and hard about making a play for Ryan Day
I think you should shut your whore mouth.Here's hoping Saturday's game is close enough for a Harbaugh extension
:cheer:
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 26, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
I think you should shut your whore mouth.Here's hoping Saturday's game is close enough for a Harbaugh extension
:cheer:
just sayin' man....Cardinals went with Kliff to develop Kyler- and that's working like gangbusters. Cardinals are 9-2 and first seed right now in the NFC. Bears might want to think about doing something similar to develop Fields. 

Fickell would immediately go to Ohio State if that happened in a second, so not exactly like OSU won't get a great coach if Day were to leave.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Abba on November 26, 2021, 01:44:04 PM
If this were to happen, I think Fick could still keep the recruiting going, but I just can't see how the offensive play calling would stay at is current level.  Perhaps the defense would improve, but this brand of Buckeye football with Day has been so fun to watch. I think he will eventually hit the league, but hopefully we will get a few more years.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 26, 2021, 01:49:56 PM
If this were to happen, I think Fick could still keep the recruiting going, but I just can't see how the offensive play calling would stay at is current level.  Perhaps the defense would improve, but this brand of Buckeye football with Day has been so fun to watch. I think he will eventually hit the league, but hopefully we will get a few more years.
Nagy has to be fired. No way the Bears are keeping him. If you're the Bears- what better guy to groom your 1st round QB pick than Ryan Day? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 26, 2021, 04:13:19 PM
If this were to happen, I think Fick could still keep the recruiting going, but I just can't see how the offensive play calling would stay at is current level.  Perhaps the defense would improve, but this brand of Buckeye football with Day has been so fun to watch. I think he will eventually hit the league, but hopefully we will get a few more years.
Fickell just needs to make the right hire.  He's not touching that offense.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 26, 2021, 05:40:12 PM
Fickell just needs to make the right hire.  He's not touching that offense.
Nagy might be available and may be pretty much relegated to a college OC job...

Fickell HC of OSU with Matt Nagy as his OC? :57:
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 26, 2021, 05:56:32 PM
i'm going...

Brady, Moss, Antonio Gates, and Adrian Peterson. 

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1463925736591482882?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on November 26, 2021, 06:00:33 PM
I'm going.... LT, Aaron Donald, JJ Watt, and Charles Woodson.

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1463928293976117264?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on November 28, 2021, 03:58:14 PM
Bungles give the Steelers the business. Tomorrow at work I am a Cincy fan and only a Cincy fan.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 28, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
SNF - Browns/Ravens

a pair of hapless offensive teams
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2021, 09:57:01 PM
Jackson has just thrown like 3 int's in 6 minutes.Not to be outdone in the christmas spirit the Browns throw a pick and fumble it away once.Not sure i can take it anymore
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on November 28, 2021, 10:02:46 PM
if one offense would simply take a knee each snap and punt, their team would be ahead by more than 3
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2021, 11:01:09 PM
Browns got their 4th pick
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 28, 2021, 11:21:48 PM
Brady-Emmitt-Fitzgerald-Winslow
Sapp-Strahan-LT-Primetime
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 29, 2021, 10:15:53 AM
Jackson has just thrown like 3 int's in 6 minutes.Not to be outdone in the christmas spirit the Browns throw a pick and fumble it away once.Not sure i can take it anymore

Ugliest game I've seen this year, and somehow worse than even the Texans-Jets game yesterday.

How in the world Cleveland can move forward acting as though Baker Mayfield is the future beats me. With Lamar Jackson giving away four TOs no less.

Baker somehow "throws a fumble" on this play, with Kareem Hunt wide open downfield.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFXO1KEXIAQJvJP?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2021, 11:20:43 PM
Washington has to go for it on 4th down, because they're kicker is hurt. They appear to score a sealing TD.  Replay overturns it for no apparent reason.   Then somehow Seattle goes down and scores a touchdown, on a complete coverage breakdown, after their inept offense had only run like three plays all night in Washington territory. Just to have Washington intercept the attempt to tie on a two-point conversion... except now Seattle has recovered the onside kick.   This is like watching an Iowa game
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2021, 11:22:36 PM
And it's overturned, because Seattle didn't know how to line up.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 03, 2021, 10:13:49 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1466842555128164354?t=WZesMuH81N3NS2_Eo3TT-A&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 05, 2021, 01:41:52 PM
December in Chicago, and it's raining instead of snowing? 

What the... how the.... who the.... HUH? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 05, 2021, 02:17:57 PM
https://twitter.com/CFL/status/1467567307484450820?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 05, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
Lions finally gonna get a "W" today!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 05, 2021, 07:32:50 PM
what Lamar Jackson just did there...wow.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 05, 2021, 07:33:34 PM
why go for 2 there? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 05, 2021, 07:39:19 PM
why go for 2 there?
To win?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 05, 2021, 07:40:42 PM
Seattle playing like a bottom five NFL team all season except when they play the 49ers, winners of 3 straight and otherwise poised for a playoff run.

Kittles played like the best TE in the first half but since then Garrapolo’s steady play has been sabotaged by 2 brain dead INTs. San Francisco’s defense, whose pass rush has gotten after Russell Wilson all game has fallen apart downfield, giving up big play after big play going into the 4th.

Up 17-7, Niners are out scored 23-7 since. Seahawks were marching in for the game-icing TD until their TD Gerald Everett fumbled at the Niners 1 yd/ln, made doubly bad by his previous 3rd quarter turnover at the Niners 1 yd/ln. 

From there, down 30-23, the Niners drive all the way across the field, getting to 4th and goal with :23 left. Garappalo’s final pass get batted away.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 05, 2021, 07:43:57 PM
To win?
go to ot and win it there
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 05, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
Today was a hell of a day of entertaining games
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 05, 2021, 09:00:03 PM
go to ot and win it there
It's a coin flip either way. Save your team the wear and tear
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 06, 2021, 05:36:55 PM
Hilarious...

Fred Roggin has been "the guy" for SoCal sports reporting on NBC since, well, forever. And Petros is a clown, but a funny one on this show. 

Seems they pissed off Kelly Stafford somethin' fierce!

Start at 14:04 (if YouTube doesn't automatically start there) and disregard the dude who shared this and his useless commentary prior to that. 

https://youtu.be/ZIQ-VQRXbJg?t=844
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 05:45:04 PM
Stafford's wife is bat-shit crazy, people from Detroit know that. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 06, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
Wasn't she throwing food at 49ers fans a couple weeks ago?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 05:48:39 PM
Wasn't she throwing food at 49ers fans a couple weeks ago?
yeah she threw a pretzel at a 49ers fan.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 06, 2021, 06:32:53 PM
Spunky.   I like it.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 06:33:48 PM
I believe the correct word for someone like her is, Karen.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 06, 2021, 06:37:32 PM
I believe the correct word for someone like her is, Karen.
No- her looks take her out of that category. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2021, 06:38:29 PM
Nah, Karens are the HOA tattle-tales that rat you out if your garbage can stays on the curb past 6 PM on trash day.

People misuse "Karen" all the time.

This chick sounds more like an Angie, who was the craziest girl I ever dated.  Stole all my stuff when we broke up, then called the cops when I really politely told her I'd like it back.  Finally gave it back about a year later when she just randomly called me and told me I could come over and get it. And when I did, not only did she give me back all my stuff, but she also wanted to get freaky right then and there.

Yup, this chick is definitely an Angie.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 06, 2021, 07:34:15 PM
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-mock-draft-aidan-hutchinson-kenny-pickett-houston-texans


PFF latest mock. Their top 10 goes...

1) DETROIT LIONS: EDGE AIDAN HUTCHINSON, MICHIGAN
2) JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON
3) HOUSTON TEXANS: QB KENNY PICKETT, PITTSBURGH
4) NEW YORK JETS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA




5) NEW YORK JETS (VIA SEATTLE): CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU
6) NEW YORK GIANTS (VIA CHICAGO): EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE



7) NEW YORK GIANTS: OT CHARLES CROSS, MISSISSIPPI STATE


8) ATLANTA FALCONS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME

9) CAROLINA PANTHERS: QB MATT CORRAL, OLE MISS
10) MINNESOTA VIKINGS: EDGE TRAVON WALKER, GEORGIA
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 06, 2021, 08:38:49 PM
Nah, Karens are the HOA tattle-tales that rat you out if your garbage can stays on the curb past 6 PM on trash day.

People misuse "Karen" all the time.

This chick sounds more like an Angie, who was the craziest girl I ever dated.  Stole all my stuff when we broke up, then called the cops when I really politely told her I'd like it back.  Finally gave it back about a year later when she just randomly called me and told me I could come over and get it. And when I did, not only did she give me back all my stuff, but she also wanted to get freaky right then and there.

Yup, this chick is definitely an Angie.
And……. Don’t leave us hanging lol. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 06, 2021, 10:20:45 PM
Nah, Karens are the HOA tattle-tales that rat you out if your garbage can stays on the curb past 6 PM on trash day.

People misuse "Karen" all the time.

This chick sounds more like an Angie, who was the craziest girl I ever dated.  Stole all my stuff when we broke up, then called the cops when I really politely told her I'd like it back.  Finally gave it back about a year later when she just randomly called me and told me I could come over and get it. And when I did, not only did she give me back all my stuff, but she also wanted to get freaky right then and there.

Yup, this chick is definitely an Angie.
Great story somewhere Slick nods in approval.

Hell i don't know what karen's or HOAs (got that)are - w/o looking them up
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on December 06, 2021, 11:05:43 PM
Yeah Slick had all the greatest stories, but he liked that one when I first told it long, long ago.

@Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) - Oh there was nothing to leave hanging on that story.  She was crazy-hot, and happy to do pretty much anything.  I didn't pass up the opportunity.  Many years later it became known as "pulling a utee."
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 07, 2021, 05:15:48 AM
😊😁🤤
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Post by: MrNubbz on December 07, 2021, 01:32:04 PM
She was crazy-hot, and happy to do pretty much anything.  I didn't pass up the opportunity.  Many years later it became known as "pulling a utee."
After reading the addendum,Slick would approve of that also 😎 .You Dog - got her so worked up she forgot to steal your kidneys
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on December 07, 2021, 01:41:17 PM
My wife was asking "why doesn't Matt Stafford tell her to just shut up?"

My response, "uhh, she seems like the type of woman who you don't tell things she doesn't want to hear, lest she turn on you next."

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 07, 2021, 03:44:07 PM
My wife was asking "why doesn't Matt Stafford tell her to just shut up?"

My response, "uhh, she seems like the type of woman who you don't tell things she doesn't want to hear, lest she turn on you next."
LMAO,reminds me of the time myself and 5 buddies came back from a Cavaliers game at the old Richfield Coloseum.We stopped at some dive bar on the way before going home - something out of starwars.At the end of this long bar there was this huge typical biker,complete with beard,bandana,leather,colors,chains getting popped continuously by his testy,pixie,pest of a GF.She keeps cracking him,"I told you this,(crack)I told you that(crack)" and on and on it went.And he's like "gosh I'm sorry Honey".

 Looked like Chewbacca & Princess Laia,anyway this was the funniest shit the 6 of had every seen,we're doubling over holding our guts,slapping our knees,gasping for air until she stops assailing him - must have heard us - and gives US this Manson like stare.IT proceeds to come after all of us like the Souix & Cheyenne after the 7th cavalry,the harder we laughed the more pissed pixie is getting.We're backing up
and cracking up at the same time as she goes full (https://www.cfb51.com/Smileys/fantasticsmileys/character0029.gif) and haves a go at each of us we just rop-a-dope and tried to ignore her.And we hear in the background her Biker BF bellow "Ah - not so funny now,huh?" as he's cracking up.We were a little scratched up but still guffawing - think she got winded and stopped for some ganja


So ya BWARB "lest she turn on you next."
Like Willie Nelson once said "sometimes the low road will show you things the high road never could"
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 10, 2021, 09:32:37 AM
Steelers boat raced in the first half last night. Tired from a hard fought win Vs Ravens with only a few days to ready for a road game Vs Vikings. Left holes wide open for Dalvin Cook. Openings only slightly larger than those Vikings blitzers had through a pedestrian Steelers OL. Roethlisberger torn down like an outdated statue all night. WR Jefferson ran free as a gazelle through Steelers secondary. Ugly showing all around. 23-0 at the half.

Leave it to the Vikings to let Pittsburgh back in.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 10, 2021, 09:49:33 AM
Vikings kicking FGs and missing kicks left the door open

Over 300 yards of offense in the first half - only 23 points

Cousins was not accurate all night - could have been a big score
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Post by: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 09:51:26 AM
Steelers LB Devin Bush has fallen off the cliff post-injury. His rookie year in 2019 he was phenomenal for a rookie showing signs he was going to be a star defensive player for the Steelers going forward. He suffered a nasty knee injury in week 6 or 7 I think of last season- basically his knee blew up- and he does not look remotely like the same player he was before knee injury. Crazy how some players bounce back better (Adrian Peterson) after serious knee injuries and some really struggle.

I think for LB'ers whose game is based largely on cutting ability/speed, knee issues probably hurt them quite a bit. Bush was never the biggest guy at roughly 5'11, 235- but he was a speed demon (ran 4.43 at combine) and could beat blockers with his speed and quickness. Doesn't seem to have that same quickness or speed anymore.

He's still only 23, but sounds like Steelers are getting fed up with his lack of progress.
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Post by: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
former Broncos Pro Bowl WR Demaryius Thomas dies at the age of 33 of a severe seizure. Tragic. Apparently he was in a very bad car accident a year ago and had started suffering from seizures post-accident. The seizures had become more frequent and more violent in the past couple months. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 12, 2021, 05:37:30 PM
Not at all surprised Tom Brady is lighting up the 1st Half Vs the Bills.

This week Brady was put on a magazine cover for a sportsman of the year award and more importantly, to him, with ALL the talk of the Patriots win over Buffalo on Monday, he's got to play staller against a team Belichick just ceremoniously beat. 13/18 150 yards so far. Buccaneers up 17-3 nearing halftime.

Poor Bills are playing the either conference's arguably best teams in matter of six days, but it sounds like a lot of Bills Mafia has made the trip to Tampa en masse. Who's to blame them given Buffalo's winters?
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Post by: FearlessF on December 12, 2021, 07:54:17 PM
Brady is pretty good
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on December 13, 2021, 01:07:30 AM


Poor Bills are playing the either conference's arguably best teams in matter of six days, but it sounds like a lot of Bills Mafia has made the trip to Tampa en masse. Who's to blame them given Buffalo's winters?
-Been really impressed w/ Allen this year, I think he's been better this season over last year. Teams are just teeing off on him because their RBs are terrible and its only a matter of time before he gets horribly injured. Yea he's big and can take the punishment but if you've noticed over the years its the big QBs who scramble who get broken at a young age. 

-Brady has Fournette (who is getting paid No.5 WR money, because RBs are "worthless"), Rodgers has Jones/Dillon, Mahomes is at his best w/ Clyde (and has been lousy w/o him). That's the difference between Allen and those 3. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on December 13, 2021, 10:24:32 PM
Just running at almost full speed while dragging a 330lb professional athlete along and throwing him into the QB.

https://twitter.com/Pitt_FB/status/1470564703286046720

He's the Barry Sanders of DTs, sure like Barry you could make an argument that so and so was better, and I may not even disagree. Like Barry tho, he just does stuff that makes your jaw drop and we'll probably never see anything like him again.
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Post by: Mdot21 on December 13, 2021, 10:31:30 PM
Just running at almost full speed while dragging a 330lb professional athlete along and throwing him into the QB.

https://twitter.com/Pitt_FB/status/1470564703286046720

He's the Barry Sanders of DTs, sure like Barry you could make an argument that so and so was better, and I may not even disagree. Like Barry tho, he just does stuff that makes your jaw drop and we'll probably never see anything like him again.
Nah. There's no argument. Just like with Barry. Barry is the best RB ever. It's not close. Aaron Donald is the best DT ever. It's not close.

also: Kyler Murray is too small. I don't think he will last long.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 13, 2021, 10:33:28 PM
More bullshit FACT
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Post by: FearlessF on December 13, 2021, 10:45:24 PM
Nah. There's no argument. Just like with Barry. Barry is the best RB ever. It's not close. Aaron Donald is the best DT ever. It's not close.

you're so 2021 ;)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on December 13, 2021, 10:59:30 PM
Nah. There's no argument. Just like with Barry. Barry is the best RB ever. It's not close. Aaron Donald is the best DT ever. It's not close.

also: Kyler Murray is too small. I don't think he will last long.

IMO Barry is the best. However if you wanted to make arguments for Jim Brown I could buy that.

Noticed w/ scrambling QBs IMO the smaller ones seem to keep their speed and their health longer. Its the tall physical scramblers ones like Cam, Culpepper, Allen in the future? that get beat up because people dive at their legs and they try to run through people.

Granted he played in Canada but Flutie lasted forever, Russel Wilson gets sacked a heck of a lot and has been healthy etc.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 13, 2021, 11:20:47 PM
It's nice when we actually get two good teams for Monday night.   And yet somehow we get bears- Vikings next week
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 13, 2021, 11:32:24 PM
stupid Bears
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Post by: FearlessF on December 14, 2021, 09:37:04 AM
TAMPA, Fla. -- Former NFL player Josh Bellamy has been sentenced to three years and one month in federal prison for fraudulently obtaining over $1.2 million in COVID-19 relief funds.

Bellamy, 32, of St. Petersburg, Florida, was sentenced Friday in Tampa federal court, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in June to conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Besides serving prison time, Bellamy must also pay restitution.

Bellamy most recently played for the New York Jets, who released him from the reserve/physically unable to play list in September 2020, just days before his arrest. The wide receiver had been placed on the list in May of that year, ending his season before it began. He signed a two-year deal worth $5 million with New York in 2019 and played in seven games before injuring a shoulder and being placed on the season-ending injured reserve list.

According to court records, Bellamy obtained a Paycheck Protection Program loan of $1.2 million for his company, Drip Entertainment LLC, using falsified documents and false information. Bellamy admitted to using the loan proceeds on personal items, such as jewelry and a stay at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino. Bellamy also sought loans on behalf of his family members and close associates.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 14, 2021, 11:32:26 AM
More bullshit FACT
nope. certain opinions might as well be fact. 

anybody with a brain or set of eye balls can look at Barry Sanders and go...THAT'S NOT NORMAL. WHO THE F CAN DO THAT. WTF AM I SEEING. Ditto with Aaron Donald. Somethings, are just facts. Like LT being the best LB and defensive player ever as well. 

You will never see a RB capable of doing the things Barry Sanders did, ever again. You will never see a LB or defensive player capable of doing the things LT did, ever again. You will never see a DT capable of doing the things Aaron Donald is doing right now ever again. These are 1 of 1's. Glitches in the matrix. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on December 14, 2021, 01:47:38 PM
Barry Sanders was fun to watch.  I always got a big kick out of seeing him scramble around for 80 yards (4 or 5 of them actually going forward) while Emmitt Smith was setting TD records and winning Superbowls.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 14, 2021, 01:52:13 PM
Emmitt had an O-line and a passing game to keep defenses honest

if he had been in Detroit he would have retired a decade earlier with no trophies, and no records, and no recognition
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 14, 2021, 02:27:11 PM
Barry Sanders was fun to watch.  I always got a big kick out of seeing him scramble around for 80 yards (4 or 5 of them actually going forward) while Emmitt Smith was setting TD records and winning Superbowls.
Emmitt was a great player- but if we're being honest- this a stupid comparison. Emmitt Smith played for a Hall of Fame coach. Barry Sanders played bulk of his career for Wayne Fontes. Emmitt Smith ran behind arguably the greatest OL in NFL history. Barry Sanders had a few years with an above average OL- but for probably north of 60-70% of his career he played behind terrible OL's. Emmitt Smith played with Troy Aikman. Who was a stud #1 overall NFL draft pick and is in the NFL Hall of Fame on the 1st ballot. Barry Sanders played with Rodney Peete, Andre Ware, Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Dave Krieg, Erik Kramer, Frank Reich, Don Majkowski, and Charlie Batch. Emmitt Smith played with Michael Irvin, an NFL Hall of Fame WR and was the 2nd best WR in the 90s behind only...Jerry Rice. You know, the greatest WR to ever play the game of football. Barry Sanders played with Herman Moore. Who was actually a very good WR- but still not on the same level as Michael Irvin.

Do we need to compare the defenses? Because Dallas had the #1 defense in the league several years that Emmitt was there. Barry Sanders' Lions teams literally only had a top 10 defense one time in his entire 10 year career there. And immediately after that year the dumbass ownership started letting all those top players on that defense like Chris Spielman go.

Dallas would've won Super Bowls with Barry Sanders and the guy probably would've ran for 3,000 to 5,000 more yards for his career running behind that OL. He'd have had a few 2,000 yard seasons and been the only guy to ever have multiple 2k seasons.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 14, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
nope. certain opinions might as well be fact.

anybody with a brain or set of eye balls can look at Barry Sanders and go...THAT'S NOT NORMAL. WHO THE F CAN DO THAT. WTF AM I SEEING. Ditto with Aaron Donald. Somethings, are just facts. Like LT being the best LB and defensive player ever as well.

You will never see a RB capable of doing the things Barry Sanders did, ever again. You will never see a LB or defensive player capable of doing the things LT did, ever again. You will never see a DT capable of doing the things Aaron Donald is doing right now ever again. These are 1 of 1's. Glitches in the matrix.
Bullcrap,we already had this discussion,Great back,great attitude also,lot to like but in your stroll thru the land of make believe you do get creative.Sanders led the league in rushing 4 times,quick and agile for sure.Brown did it 8 of his 9 seasons.Barry got a ton of yards playing on artificial turf where he could stop on a dime.He also lost more yards from scrimmage than anyone else.Payton,Brown,Tomlinson,Dickerson and Campbell were right there.Sayers is even with his shortened career.I saw Campbell in person 4x at old Cleveland Stadium he moved piles and punished people - the only guy I ever saw send Jack Tatem in the other direction.If he made the corner some one was going to pay.Brown played in 12 games for 4 yrs and 14 games for 5.Never missed a game in 9 seasons unanimous all-NFL 8 times.The only back in NFL history to average over 5 YPC and 100 YPG for a career retiring at age 30.And Dallas wouldn't have one another SB unless Jimmy stayed,drugs,lack of discipline,  and Jerry made sure of that
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 15, 2021, 12:04:47 AM
So it's just Mighty Ducks but instead of a fictional DUI it's a well known true life scheme to pay defensive player to injure opposing players?

https://twitter.com/LightsCameraPod/status/1470822412002410502?t=rn9u_5_bDKq8cUCdBmylTg&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on December 15, 2021, 12:59:05 AM
I think somebody should do a comedy series where a soccer manager from an overseas team, comes to the US to coach an NFL franchise.  Chaos and hilarity ensue.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 15, 2021, 07:59:47 AM
You can have chaos or hilarity, but the combination of the two might send people into seizures. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 15, 2021, 09:00:34 AM
So it's just Mighty Ducks but instead of a fictional DUI it's a well known true life scheme to pay defensive player to injure opposing players?

https://twitter.com/LightsCameraPod/status/1470822412002410502?t=rn9u_5_bDKq8cUCdBmylTg&s=19
took out Farve in the NFC champ game

probably OK, this Viking fan didn't want to really like Farve
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2021, 08:41:11 AM
Jonathan Taylor is REALLY good.


NFL on Twitter: "JONATHAN TAYLOR. 67 YARDS. GOOD NIGHT. 📺: #NEvsIND on @NFLNetwork 📱: https://t.co/DL75sQUMR5 https://t.co/V0jzema8xz" / Twitter (https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1472417441384845313?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1472417441384845313|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fwisconsin%2Fboard%2F23%2FContents%2Ftweets-144988831%2F%3Fpage%3D514)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 19, 2021, 10:05:03 AM
best RB that's ever come out of Wisconsin. Honestly was a little shocked he didn't go 1st round after he ripped off 4.3's in the combine. With his size and college production with that verified 40 time- thought for sure he'd go 1st round. 

Chiefs have to be kicking themselves in the ass for taking the kid from LSU over Taylor with the last pick of the 1st round.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 19, 2021, 10:08:00 AM
Should have won the Hypesman. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 19, 2021, 10:24:33 AM
Should have won the Hypesman.
His problem was Kyler Murray and then Joe Burrow had the #2 and #1 best seasons ever in P5 for QBs. 

Hard to knock either of those guys winning it, they were more than deserving. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 19, 2021, 10:46:59 AM
Perhaps but they were QBs let's not forget that
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 19, 2021, 06:12:35 PM
Dolphins outlast Jets 31-24 down in Miami.



More importantly for both teams, their young franchise-hopeful QBs showed flashes of success that can be built momentum for next year. For the Jets their offensive game plan effectively maximized passing lanes by moving Zach Wilson out of the pocket. This went well for the first half until in the second half the Dolphins pass rush sacked Wilson six times. For Miami, Tua's passing appeared much more dynamic which balanced out the attack with an added 196 yds on the ground, over 100 from Duke Johnson.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 19, 2021, 06:19:39 PM
the Lions win again
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 19, 2021, 08:48:48 PM
Against Arizona,what the hey,they just climed out of locking on to the very 1st pick. LION PRIDE
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 19, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
Against Arizona,what the hey,they just climed out of locking on to the very 1st pick. LION PRIDE
This is definitely the year to not care about the #1 pick
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 19, 2021, 11:54:57 PM
Buccaneers need to figure out how to avoid the Saints in the playoffs
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2021, 09:38:24 AM
This is definitely the year to not care about the #1 pick
There has to be a keeper in there somewhere.And if the law of averages is a thing the Lions could see it show up.I have to pull for someone seems the Browns couldn't stand even 15 minutes of Warhol's fame
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
Buccaneers need to figure out how to avoid the Saints in the playoffs
it is insane to me how the Saints both last year and this year can lose to crap teams and barely make playoffs but when they face the Bucs they just destroy them in the regular season. Every. Single. Time. Idk what they are doing that other teams can't do vs the Bucs- but my guess is Payton & his staff just have Arians figured out. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 10:48:42 AM
This is definitely the year to not care about the #1 pick
this. there is no franchise QB out there. there's no Trevor Lawerence or Andrew Luck this draft, which means you probably want to trade the #1 pick and acquire picks anyways.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 03:37:49 PM
Bucs WR Chris Godwin out for the season with torn ACL. That's a huge blow to their chances to repeat. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2021, 04:16:41 PM
There has to be a keeper in there somewhere.And if the law of averages is a thing the Lions could see it show up.I have to pull for someone seems the Browns couldn't stand even 15 minutes of Warhol's fame
Oh, I'm sure there will be.  But it's not obvious who it will be, so I'm not overly concerned about getting the first crack at it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2021, 05:40:33 PM
Nice to see them throw a 46 yard penalty on the Browns for a bit of touching during a pass. You don't get 46 yard penalties running the ball.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2021, 06:00:34 PM
WTF,forgot they're playing how the hell did that happen?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2021, 06:06:51 PM
WTF,forgot they're playing how the hell did that happen?
Raiders about to get sacked, threw a long bomb towards a guy - Brownie DB was in the way, didn't let the receiver just catch the ball. Though I do enjoy a five o'oclock tip. Already dark out - feels like a night game anyway. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2021, 07:39:38 PM
Great Grab by DPJ for like 20 then Chubb up the middle for 11 hopefully they save the best for last.Myles Garret banged up,Browns down 13-7
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2021, 07:45:43 PM
Brownies!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 07:47:37 PM
Oh, I'm sure there will be.  But it's not obvious who it will be, so I'm not overly concerned about getting the first crack at it
Jags already have a QB of the future and since there isn't a QB out there teams will die to get at #1, they aren't going to get a ransom for that #1 pick. 

They might as well stay pat and take Hutchinson. I think he's the safest pick in the draft. And at #1 don't think you can afford a dud. You need a real life player. Hutchinson's floor to me is Chris Long and his ceiling is a Bosa/Watt brother. Even if he doesn't hit and you don't get a superstar defensive player, you're going to get a reliable, high quality starter imo.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2021, 07:49:10 PM
Another catch by DPJ nice run by Chubb then 4th and goal TD to DPJ ;D
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 07:51:31 PM
Another catch by DPJ nice run by Chubb then 4th and goal TD to DPJ ;D
Urbs was right. Kid had top 10 NFL draft pick talent and Harbaugh turned him into a 6th rounder. Lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2021, 08:03:52 PM
Ugh, Cleveland
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 20, 2021, 08:05:06 PM
Turned it off Raiders came back 16-14 Browns 7-7,so much promise in September.Think I heard there were like a total 15-16 guys out,not all Covid
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on December 20, 2021, 08:57:31 PM
Ugh, Cleveland
Coach should have kicked the kicker before the game
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 09:25:13 PM
Coach should have kicked the kicker before the game
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/64252711/i-see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2021, 09:48:44 PM
Watching Dalvin Cook tonight, Walker reminds me a lot of him.  Great vision in the box in a zone blocking scheme, with sneaky, but not elite, speed
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
Watching Dalvin Cook tonight, Walker reminds me a lot of him.  Great vision in the box in a zone blocking scheme, with sneaky, but not elite, speed
Good comparison.  

Game tonight makes me feel so bad for Fields. Bears can’t block, they can’t catch, their play calling is horrible and they either hold, jump off sides are commit personal fouls on ever drive. 
 
I would have loved to see him go at 15 to the Pats. A real coach with real game plans and real plays and a real offensive line.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2021, 10:34:11 PM
The Bears have been wasting a good defense for 30 years

There are literally millions of fans who have been rooting for 2012 MSU for their whole lives
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
For the first time in this game, they call a pass on first down.   Fields completed 5 straight and gets them into the red zone. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on December 20, 2021, 11:29:38 PM
Your QB goes 26/39, 285 yards, 1 TD, no picks and a passer rating of 96 

You hold the other QB to 87 yards and a passer rating of 69, and 193 yards of total offense.  

But you lose 3 fumbles, commit 8 penalties and miss 2 FGs, and never even threaten to win.  

🤮
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 20, 2021, 11:39:22 PM
https://twitter.com/bchapsports/status/1472672491004907523?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 21, 2021, 10:08:44 AM
Your QB goes 26/39, 285 yards, 1 TD, no picks and a passer rating of 96

You hold the other QB to 87 yards and a passer rating of 69, and 193 yards of total offense. 

But you lose 3 fumbles, commit 8 penalties and miss 2 FGs, and never even threaten to win. 

🤮
Da Bears!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 21, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
Bears are where QB's go to die. Lions are where all players go to die.

I don't wish any player getting drafted by them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 21, 2021, 11:57:44 AM
It's been 35 yrs for the Bears so they're due.Browns/Lions fans can expect to wait another 3 decades
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 21, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
It's been 35 yrs for the Bears so they're due.Browns/Lions fans can expect to wait another 3 decades
they can expect to wait an eternity. never gonna happen. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 21, 2021, 11:01:07 PM
Bucs WR Chris Godwin out til late next year with an ACL...now it comes out RB Leonard Fournette has been placed on IR and is on crutches because of a hamstring injury. His status for the playoffs probably up in doubt.

Two huge pieces for that offense- gone. At least they still have Mike Evans and a Gronk that's probably 60-70% of what he used to be- which is still freaking amazing. Antonio Brown suppose to come back from his suspension this week.

Tampa was looking much better at going back to back just a week or so ago.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 21, 2021, 11:03:46 PM
Boring, boring, boring off night game finishing up between Rams and Seahawks. 20-10 LA wins. A game in which Russell Wilson threw at an uncharacteristically low completion rate, in large part because of high risk passes either down the middle or deep. You can really tell by his boom-or-bust play he’s ready to get out of town. The Seahawks can’t block for him, don’t relieve pocket pressure with much of a run game, and the defense is a mixed bag. Time to move on.

On the Rams side of the ball, Stafford threw for 21/29 for a rating over 100. Even without Woods or Beckham playing dependably, Cooper Kupp is a more than trusty target, catching for 136 yards on 9 receptions.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 21, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
Russell Wilson looks like he got old out of nowhere
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 21, 2021, 11:15:30 PM
Bucs WR Chris Godwin out til late next year with an ACL...now it comes out RB Leonard Fournette has been placed on IR and is on crutches because of a hamstring injury. His status for the playoffs probably up in doubt.

Two huge pieces for that offense- gone. At least they still have Mike Evans and a Gronk that's probably 60-70% of what he used to be- which is still freaking amazing. Antonio Brown suppose to come back from his suspension this week.

Tampa was looking much better at going back to back just a week or so ago.
They are saying Fournette should be fine for the playoffs.

Their offense is basically the same as it was last year.  The issue is the defense, which was #3 in the NFL last year in FPI, has fallen to pretty much league average.  Last.year, only the Rams and Steelers had a better defense.  And both had trash offenses.  Tampas offense is basically on par with last year, but their defense has really fallen off
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 21, 2021, 11:16:35 PM
Russell Wilson looks like he got old out of nowhere
that Seattle OL will do it to ya. They neglected the OL for years and his contract ate up so much cap space they were never able to get around to fixing it. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 24, 2021, 11:19:02 AM
The NFL is battling the latest COVID-19 surge with an understanding that symptomatic individuals are driving transmission within the team environment, chief medical officer Dr. Allen Sills said Thursday, with no indications of asymptomatic spread.

That position represents a significant departure from the pandemic-long stance of public health authorities, who have warned about the possibility of individuals spreading the virus without being aware they are infected.


Sills first told the NFL Network that the league has not seen verifiable asymptomatic spread this season, and later fleshed out his point in an interview with ESPN.

"I think all of our concern about [asymptomatic spread] has been going down based on what we've been seeing throughout the past several months," Sills told ESPN. "We've got our hands full with symptomatic people. Can I tell you tonight that there has never been a case when someone without symptoms passed it on to someone else? No, of course I can't say that. But what I can say to you is that I think it's a very, very tiny fraction of the overall problem, if it exists at all.

"Clearly if you want to look at the overall pattern and concern about transmission, it is not being driven by people who have no idea that they are infected and they are infecting scores of others. This is being driven by people with symptoms and the exposures during that symptomatic period."

In response to the Omicron variant, the NFL and NFL Players Association agreed last week to halt weekly testing on vaccinated players and begin random testing of a sample across teams and positions. Vaccinated players who report symptoms are required to be tested, and unvaccinated players continue to be tested daily. The NFL is still performing 1,000 tests per day for players and staff, Sills said.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on December 26, 2021, 05:54:40 PM
Chiefs waging a dominating 1st half Vs Steelers, up 23-0 going into halftime, posting advantages in yardage: 255 to 109; time of possession: 20min to 10min; and passing: Mahomes 19/25 205 yds Vs Rothlisburger 12/17 88 yds.

Chiefs playing better and better by the week; a win today will be 8 straight. 

Steelers are a team capable of beating better teams like Buffalo and Tennessee at the cost of not recovering the effort it took to win in time for the next game.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 26, 2021, 06:42:12 PM
Monday/Saturday just daggars in Hearts of Browns Fans - just brutal
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 27, 2021, 09:20:17 PM
may be time for Browns to move on from Baker Mayfield. That 4 INT game vs the Packers was awful. Just decent QB play and that team is elite. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on December 27, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
Hopefully one last home insurance commercial of him getting evicted?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 27, 2021, 09:40:50 PM
by his neighbor Alice

wearing the boots, returning the wheelbarrow 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 27, 2021, 10:19:21 PM
they'll make super bowl runs so long as Mike Brown doesn't f##k it up.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1475451900594114562?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on December 27, 2021, 11:30:07 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/status/1475656939581460490?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on December 28, 2021, 08:48:08 AM
may be time for Browns to move on from Baker Mayfield. That 4 INT game vs the Packers was awful. Just decent QB play and that team is elite.
The last one was literally pass interence,the announcers agreed,as bad as he played the NFL has no freakin' right to spoon feed their darlings.The DB pulled DPJ shirt slowing him then sliding in front.Every one saw it the fans,the offense,the defense,the hot dog venders,just evidently not the zebras.THE NFL is nothing more than the WWF
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2021, 10:20:26 AM
and why would you try to make a darling of a POS?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on December 28, 2021, 10:27:05 AM
may be time for Browns to move on from Baker Mayfield. That 4 INT game vs the Packers was awful. Just decent QB play and that team is elite.
2 of those interceptions came from non-called DPI.   Not saying Baker had a good game, but get those calls right and the game is different.

Problem is Baker has been hurt all season, you can see it in his throwing motion. Browns would be foolish to replace him because there isn't anyone better available.  Not through free agency or the draft.  Well unless Rodgers become available. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on December 28, 2021, 10:34:13 AM
I'm hoping Kirk Cousins will become available

with the stats he put up this season, he should be worth a fistful of draft picks
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2022, 04:10:59 PM
good game in the Jungle in Cincy
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2022, 04:58:17 PM
Anyone see this,hard to tell if he's looking for attention or just that whack

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-leaves-field-in-middle-of-buccaneers-game-vs-jets-bruce-arians-says-hes-no-longer-a-buc/
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
whack

Arians says he's off the team
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2022, 05:34:41 PM
Godwin's done so is AB and a few others.If Brady wins it this year,Mdot will eat his other dirty sock 😜
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2022, 06:32:37 PM
GRONK!!!

and the defense!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2022, 07:32:25 PM
always amusing to watch the Cowgirls go down
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 02, 2022, 09:44:04 PM
Anyone see this,hard to tell if he's looking for attention or just that whack

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-leaves-field-in-middle-of-buccaneers-game-vs-jets-bruce-arians-says-hes-no-longer-a-buc/
I'll say it again, he went from eccentric fun receiver to legit nuts after he took that helmet to the face from Vonteze (who already should have been out of the league) in that playoff game.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2022, 09:57:45 PM
Read he got an MRI and other scans after getting leaving the game under protocal.He should certainly get another one
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 02, 2022, 10:12:36 PM
That was the dirtiest hit I can recall in the post concession "awareness" era
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2022, 10:24:25 PM
There were others but Burfict made him appear as a crash test dummy.Thru the years I've seen some just as dirty,the old Raiders and Steelers, amongst others.Yet a complete 2 full years afterwards he led the League with 1500 + recieving yds.I remember Brown (before Burfict) kicked one of the Browns in the face saying he was hurling over him.Saw Ward and i think JuJu do some shyt,blind side crap,wonder if they teach it.Burfict should have got at least a year off w/o pay
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 02, 2022, 10:26:15 PM
There were others but Burfict made him appear as a crash test dummy.Thru the years I've seen some just as dirty,the old Raiders and Steelers, amongst others.Yet a complete 2 full years afterwards he led the League with 1500 + recieving yds.I remember Brown (before Burfict) kicked one of the Browns in the face saying he was hurling over him.Saw Ward and i think JuJu do some shyt,blind side crap,wonder if they teach it.Burfict should have got at least a year off w/o pay
Well that's why I qualified with once they actually acknowledged concussions were bad. I'm disqualifying hits from 15 plus years ago
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 02, 2022, 10:33:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DTio1-HMY&t=40s


Click the address they'll show it. Hardly eccentic or fun freeze frame it at 40 seconds.Deliberate as the day is long
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 03, 2022, 12:25:53 AM
He anticipated that the punter would go low, he didn't, aaaaaand he's hanging in the air.  It looks awful, but he obviously didn't set out to do that.  He got stuck.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2022, 10:52:02 AM
it's tackle football

you might get kicked in the head
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 03, 2022, 08:52:43 PM
First Quarter notes from Pittsburgh Vs Cleveland:

Moving ovation from Steelers home crowd as Big Ben takes the field for his last home game.

10:40 - Cleveland’s first drive, 3-N-Out. Baker throws three straight passes, two of which hitting right off the hands of open wideouts...and I’ll say it...almost as if they were dropped on purpose.

5:33 - Cleveland’s 2nd drive: 2 long runs from LOS yet the play calls insist on Mayfield passing despite the strong run game. 4th & 7 and Browns go for it near Steelers 40. Mayfield’s pass knocked away by the DL.

0:43 - Steelers going for it on 4th down, Big Ben missing on a pass deflected by Browns’ LB

Another 3-N-Out for the Browns.

0-0
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 03, 2022, 09:04:11 PM
Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for Ben
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2022, 09:07:25 PM
me either

bye
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 04, 2022, 07:56:43 AM
OBJ has five touchdowns with the Rams. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2022, 08:07:43 AM
He anticipated that the punter would go low, he didn't, aaaaaand he's hanging in the air.  It looks awful, but he obviously didn't set out to do that.  He got stuck.
Bullshit,he diliberately did it just as Burfict,he had smacked around a girl friend prior.Burfict couldn't plan where a player would be at in time and space - only you are that smart
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 04, 2022, 08:18:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/X7pUZ6L.png)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 04, 2022, 12:57:00 PM
Anyone see this,hard to tell if he's looking for attention or just that whack

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-leaves-field-in-middle-of-buccaneers-game-vs-jets-bruce-arians-says-hes-no-longer-a-buc/
craziest ish I've ever seen. Brown has serious mental health issues. Who just quits mid game, on a team that is still in the hunt for the #1 seed in the NFC and trying to repeat as Super Bowl champs? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on January 04, 2022, 03:51:51 PM
Crazy stat they announced last night during the Steelers - Browns game.  Ben Roethlisberger has only played in 2 games his entire NFL career where he was already eliminated from the playoffs.

I know some don't care for the guy, but that's an insane stat.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 04, 2022, 03:59:08 PM
Crazy stat they announced last night during the Steelers - Browns game.  Ben Roethlisberger has only played in 2 games his entire NFL career where he was already eliminated from the playoffs.

I know some don't care for the guy, but that's an insane stat.
It is insane. 

Granted, that has multiple things to unpack.


Interestingly, I looked at Brady. A Brady team has only not made the playoffs in 2002 and 2008. In 2008 it was due to a Brady injury; he only played one game. In 2002 he started all 16 games, and the Pats went 9-7. So it's entirely possible that they weren't eliminated at any point during that season (although they won the last game to go from 8-7 to 9-7, so it would be more likely they were eliminated than if they were 9-6 and lost the last one). 

So it's possible Brady has never started a game while eliminated from playoff contention. Which is partly an insane and positive stat about Brady, but also partly an insane and positive stat about the Patriots org as a whole, given that they only missed playoffs twice while he was there and one of the two times they played his backup all season. 

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 04, 2022, 04:51:22 PM
It is insane.

Granted, that has multiple things to unpack.

  • While the QB is a huge part of whether a team makes playoffs, a QB is not the only thing controlling whether a team makes the playoffs. Team quality also makes a difference.
  • Were there any years where the Steelers didn't make the playoffs, but Ben was benched after they were out of contention due to non-injury reasons? If you know you're eliminated in game 16, do you just start your backup to get him experience?

Interestingly, I looked at Brady. A Brady team has only not made the playoffs in 2002 and 2008. In 2008 it was due to a Brady injury; he only played one game. In 2002 he started all 16 games, and the Pats went 9-7. So it's entirely possible that they weren't eliminated at any point during that season (although they won the last game to go from 8-7 to 9-7, so it would be more likely they were eliminated than if they were 9-6 and lost the last one).

So it's possible Brady has never started a game while eliminated from playoff contention. Which is partly an insane and positive stat about Brady, but also partly an insane and positive stat about the Patriots org as a whole, given that they only missed playoffs twice while he was there and one of the two times they played his backup all season.
Brady was in New England 20 seasons. His rookie year was 2000. He didn't play. We all know the story in 2001- Bledsoe goes down- Brady goes in. Rest is history. The only other year in New England he didn't really play was 2008, when he tore his ACL in the first QTR of the 1st game of that season.

So he had basically 18 seasons as the starter in New England. They made the Super Bowl in 9 of those 18 seasons. Basically 50% of his starting years they were a Super Bowl team. That is just f**ng ridiculous.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 08, 2022, 06:05:39 PM
Chiefs don’t look like they’re playing for much in Denver today. Even with Broncos not blitzing at all in first half. If anything, Vic Fangio has most to gain. If Broncos can finally end KC’s 12 game win streak Vs Broncos it might be the goodwill he needs to convince management to keep his coaching job next year. 

So far Drew Lock is doing more damage as a scrambler than passer.

14-10 Broncos up at the Half.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 08, 2022, 06:30:07 PM
Just keep it within 10!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 08, 2022, 06:43:48 PM
Patrick Mahomes getting dangerously close to Aaron Rodgers level of whining
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 08, 2022, 07:03:57 PM
Hang onto the goddamned ball Melvin Gordon
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on January 09, 2022, 04:01:12 PM
I was just informed of the rather delicious tie scenario tonight.  That may cause me to tune in.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 09, 2022, 04:04:46 PM
Packers Suck
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 09, 2022, 04:12:00 PM
Da Bears suck
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 06:53:50 PM
Clutch threaded throw for a TD by Stafford to Cupp 24-17,capping off a 92 yd drive.2:29 remaining
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 07:07:37 PM
Holy crap 9ers tie it up with 30 sec left knotted at 24.Garapalo drives them 81 yds
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 09, 2022, 07:30:53 PM
The Arizona Cardinals crapping away a late game Vs the Seahawks, giving a productive outing from Murray zero help from the defense, who just gave up a long TD run from Seattle's Rashard Penney that put the Seahawks up 38-27 in crunch time. Top that off with the announcers emphasizing how the Cardinals haven't won a HOME game in SEVENTY SEVEN days. Another late season fade for the Cardinals thanks to Kliff Kingsbury.

It's weird watching regular season NFL this deep into January. Feels out of place and even stale like the really late minor bowls I never got used to watching, like last Tuesday's Texas Bowl.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 09, 2022, 07:32:48 PM
The last regular season games can have more opt-outs than the college bowl games, depending on the playoff picture.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Rams jumped out  to a 17 pt lead,9ers just hit a FG they are up now 27-24 in OT.Rams get a flag have 75 yds to go
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 07:35:51 PM
The Arizona Cardinals crapping away a late game Vs the Seahawks, giving a productive outing from Murray zero help from the defense, who just gave up a long TD run from Seattle's Rashard Penney that put the Seahawks up 38-27 in crunch time. Top that off with the announcers emphasizing how the Cardinals haven't won a HOME game in SEVENTY SEVEN days. Another late season fade for the Cardinals thanks to Kliff Kingsbury.

It's weird watching regular season NFL this deep into January. Feels out of place and even stale like the really late minor bowls I never got used to watching, like last Tuesday's Texas Bowl.
They won't be happy until they are stepping on Opening day's toes
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 09, 2022, 08:44:15 PM
The last regular season games can have more opt-outs than the college bowl games, depending on the playoff picture.
and no one seems to mind
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 09, 2022, 08:50:43 PM
Yeah, I fully acknowledge not understanding the NFL fan's mind.  
I do think it would be very different without gambling and fantasy football, but that's mostly unrelated.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 09, 2022, 08:52:14 PM
and it can easily be blamed on the coach's or franchise's decision, not the player

unlike college
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 09, 2022, 11:49:42 PM
best game I've seen in a few years
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2022, 07:53:01 AM
It's weird watching regular season NFL this deep into January. Feels out of place and even stale like the really late minor bowls I never got used to watching, like last Tuesday's Texas Bowl.


It's like watching MLB or NBA games at ANY point during the regular season.  Long, boring seasons full of meaningless games.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 10, 2022, 08:40:47 AM
The Bears still suck.

TJ Watt doesn't suck.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: WhiskeyM on January 10, 2022, 11:17:50 AM
Watt ties the single season sack record.  He should be in sole possession of the record.  Strahan's last sack was staged, Farve admitted it himself.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 10, 2022, 11:51:49 AM
17 game season versus 16, but TJ missed 2 games this year.

Strahan played in all 16.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 10, 2022, 12:16:58 PM
Chiefs have to be very happy to get to face the Steelers again rather than the Raiders or Chargers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2022, 11:28:19 PM
Watt ties the single season sack record.  He should be in sole possession of the record.  Strahan's last sack was staged, Farve admitted it himself.


perhaps, but it still happened
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 10, 2022, 11:43:43 PM
perhaps, but it still happened
Michael Strahan also went to space, but I'm not calling him an astronaut
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2022, 11:52:49 PM
me either, but it happened
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 11, 2022, 12:09:09 AM
Ground control to Major Tom (Coughlin)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2022, 09:43:52 AM
Wonder if Saban inquires about the Dolphins job?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 11, 2022, 10:38:11 AM
Wonder if Saban inquires about the Dolphins job?
You know who would be a good coach in Miami?  The guy Miami just fired for no reason
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2022, 01:31:09 PM
Remember when the NFL used to not run games on Sunday night against the World Series?

Their average regular season games are smoking the NBA Finals and World Series

https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1481314565694631936?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2022, 09:56:34 PM
(https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271708512_10221184465023741_3970748360657114918_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=XwhWuLoR61QAX_yx_Tp&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=00_AT8DcCIbbeg1mO93leTiwhV2rsrw8aiDkduKbwBhFzZ0rw&oe=61E50450)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 06:32:38 PM
Man some infuriating reffing in the Bungles game. Refs blow whistle during a touchdown play then pretend they didn't. Then don't blow whistle during big play for Bengals and pretend they did.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 15, 2022, 07:57:29 PM
Good for the Bengals for ending a 31 season drought without a playoff win, but man that was anticlimactic with Cincinnati defaulting on so many chances to break open the game. They coasted that second half with timid play calling that went away from Jamar Chase and focused on too many short passes.

Good for Cincy, but no way the outmatched Raiders should’ve been able to hang with a chance at a tying TD to close regulation.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 07:59:20 PM
Good for the Bengals for ending a 31 season drought without a playoff win, but man that was anticlimactic with Cincinnati defaulting on so many chances to break open the game. They coasted that second half with timid play calling that went away from Jamar Chase and focused on too many short passes.

Good for Cincy, but no way the outmatched Raiders should’ve been able to hang with a chance at a tying TD to close regulation.
Buddy, I have absolutely zero complaints about winning a danged playoff game for the first time since I was 11.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 15, 2022, 10:41:48 PM
Yeah, complaining about HOW you win a playoff game is some privileged stuff that this Lions fan cannot relate to
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2022, 03:23:10 PM
well, I thought the Bucs were a lead pipe lock.  Should have bet the farm
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 16, 2022, 03:29:17 PM
Yeah, complaining about HOW you win a playoff game is some privileged stuff that this Lions fan cannot relate to
The BROWNS dabbled in delusion last year,just can't stand prosperity
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 16, 2022, 04:35:33 PM
I got the Cowgirls over the '9ers and the Chiefs over the Steelers. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 16, 2022, 04:37:30 PM
Well here we go.  I think the 49ers are a bad matchup for Dallas, especially their offense and running game against Dallas's mercurial defense.  If I had to bet I'd put the money on SF.

But I suppose there's a reason they play the games.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: EastAthens on January 16, 2022, 04:44:51 PM









The refs were terrible in that Bucs-Eagles game. Every time the Eagles made a play in the 1st half, it was called back.  Almost like the NFL has a vested interest in how many eyeballs Brady draws.  But Hurts did not deserve to win that game, he missed more throws than he made.
 
































Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on January 16, 2022, 04:52:05 PM
Been at a club vball tournament this weekend, I've not this much Bengals gear in my 13 years living in Indy area in that time as I have this weekend.    Have to assume they put away the Buckeyes' jackets.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 16, 2022, 06:25:06 PM
Punt just hit the video board.

Tear it down and start over and make it taller.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 16, 2022, 07:15:18 PM
Down 23-7 with 12 minutes left  McCarthy decides to kick a FG on 4th and 5. I didn’t like the call, but Garropolo helping him out by throwing a bad pick on the ensuing possession to put Dallas in business.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 07:17:43 PM
Is it just me or does this 49ers game look way better than the other games. Like it upgraded my television.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 07:40:07 PM
Hell was Randy Gregory doing?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 16, 2022, 07:42:35 PM
Dallas with 14 penalties and each one was dumber than the previous one.  They absolutely deserved to lose this game.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 16, 2022, 07:45:44 PM
Hell was Randy Gregory doing?
Just inexplicably dumb and Dallas has done that all day. False starts, defensive holds on linemen, hands to the face. Just dumb stuff all day.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 07:53:05 PM
Good grief. These coaches have to be tearing their hair out
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 07:58:31 PM
Welp. That was a fitting ending for one of the dumbest games I've seen.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 16, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
The Steelers' front 7 is mostly B1G guys and their back 4 are SEC guys.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2022, 08:57:02 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p552x414/271597972_4962066897220264_3334344520927580325_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=eaqbxGi5XAMAX9sr8Qh&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AT-mCY4UowrFwK5hu3vm_CQ5ivIJx7L_w3PrFPCjGUMiaw&oe=61E9F641)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 16, 2022, 11:09:57 PM
The Steelers' front 7 is mostly B1G guys and their back 4 are SEC guys.
And their offense shouldn't be NFL guys
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 17, 2022, 08:51:22 AM
Welp. That was a fitting ending for one of the dumbest games I've seen.
The hiring of Mike McCarthy as the head coach of the Cowboys was bewildering at the time, and he has done nothing to change that perception.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 17, 2022, 09:22:39 AM
Dallas with 14 penalties and each one was dumber than the previous one.  They absolutely deserved to lose this game.
Yup.  So many of them pre-snap.  Just undisciplined, bad football.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 17, 2022, 10:05:24 AM
I can't put the blame on McCarthy.  and as a former Packer I certainly don't like him, but....

McCarthy has a great staff that had a great offense and a huge improvement on defense

all the penalties, what can you do besides bench those undisciplined players

Ex-Husker Gregory too many bong hits and Dak may have been with him - running up the middle with 14 seconds left

McCarthy put his players in position to win.  The players botched it, badly
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 17, 2022, 02:11:46 PM
https://twitter.com/Danny_Heifetz/status/1482857233604087809?t=vS5xM6wx67npfvvpB9TkkA&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 17, 2022, 09:45:30 PM
LA Rams taking it to the Cardinals so far, up 21-0 approaching halftime. Game so dull I'm flipping over to the Manning Brothers on ESPN2. Feels like one of those bootleg YouTube livestreams with Eli really needing some sort of talent coach to keep from appearing as facially disengaged and unsettled as he often does.



https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1483253066044477446
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 18, 2022, 12:00:35 AM
LA Rams taking it to the Cardinals so far, up 21-0 approaching halftime. Game so dull I'm flipping over to the Manning Brothers on ESPN2. Feels like one of those bootleg YouTube livestreams with Eli really needing some sort of talent coach to keep from appearing as facially disengaged and unsettled as he often does.



https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1483253066044477446
That chain was a gift from Snoop, tho.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2022, 10:11:43 AM
pair of idiots 
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Post by: utee94 on January 18, 2022, 11:21:57 AM
I've only watched a couple of times but I prefer their dialog over the normal broadcast crew.  I think it would be more interesting though, if they were in the same room, instead of Zoom chat or whatever.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2022, 02:36:14 PM
At Prescott's postgame press conference, a reporter asked the quarterback for his reaction to fans throwing bottles at Cowboys players rather than the referees. Prescott initially expressed disappointment before a participant said that fans actually threw bottles at the officials. In response, Prescott said, "Credit to them."

_________________________________________________ _____

Vikings fans did it better in 1975 after the Cowboy's cheating hail mary
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 19, 2022, 10:14:27 PM
Cowboys coaches and players pretending NFL refs have it out for them is adorable.

Also saw a stat that after the win on Sunday, Brady and Rodgers have the same number of playoff wins against NFC teams.  One has played in the conference for 14 years, the other for 2
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 19, 2022, 10:16:18 PM
Rogers is a douche 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 20, 2022, 12:35:44 AM
Cowboys coaches and players pretending NFL refs have it out for them is adorable.

Also saw a stat that after the win on Sunday, Brady and Rodgers have the same number of playoff wins against NFC teams.  One has played in the conference for 14 years, the other for 2
Does that include Super Bowl games? Because that adds a few to Brady's tally...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on January 20, 2022, 12:41:01 AM
I read that Bills are first AFC team to have a playoff win against each AFC opponent. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 20, 2022, 12:43:46 PM
Does that include Super Bowl games? Because that adds a few to Brady's tally...
Yeah, that's the point
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 20, 2022, 05:08:41 PM
Cowboys coaches and players pretending NFL refs have it out for them is adorable.

Also saw a stat that after the win on Sunday, Brady and Rodgers have the same number of playoff wins against NFC teams.  One has played in the conference for 14 years, the other for 2
Brady has some fun facts.  For instance, he has more TD passes after the age of 40 (168) than Troy Aikman had for his entire career (165).
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 20, 2022, 09:01:19 PM
Not everyone had an Emmitt to hand it off to.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 20, 2022, 10:08:18 PM
Aikman was fortunate

might not be in the hall w/o that O-line and Emmitt
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 21, 2022, 12:39:42 AM
It's a team sport.  Emmitt might not be in the HOF without Troy and that o-line.

One thing is certain-- the trench ponies never get enough accolades.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 21, 2022, 01:03:53 AM
You mean Draft Horses dontcha?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 21, 2022, 09:58:13 AM
big uglies
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 21, 2022, 10:37:34 AM
Brady has some fun facts.  For instance, he has more TD passes after the age of 40 (168) than Troy Aikman had for his entire career (165).
it's a whole different ball-game now. Hard to compare eras. When Aikman came into the league in '89 it was a running league. The rule changes have made it pass happy today and everyone is putting up inflated stats. And not only was it a running league when Aikman came into it, but he was on the worst team- teams earn the #1 pick by sucking. Aikman got beaten to hell his first couple years in the league on a bad team with a bad o-line. It took Jimmy a few years but he restocked the cupboards via drafts and trades and then they took off like a rocket. 

Aikman is to this day one of the most gifted passers I've ever seen. The guy could really just throw the shit out of the football- they just didn't ask him to throw it that often and in that era it was a running league. The only guy from the 80s and 90s that was putting up stupid #'s was Marino- but he's arguably the most gifted passer the league has ever seen.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 21, 2022, 10:43:40 AM
Not everyone had an Emmitt to hand it off to.
wasn't just Emmitt. That entire team was stocked, locked, and loaded. Michael Irvin was probably the 2nd best WR of that entire era. Really only Jerry Rice was better imo. Maybe Sterling Sharpe would've been better if not for the career ending injury. Maybe Cris Carter was as good. But that's it. The OL was massive and talented and the best in the entire league for a good 5-6 year run. The TE's were pretty solid with Jay Novacek. Not to mention their 90s defenses were the #1 defenses in the league for like 3 years in a row from '92 to '94. In the 90s they were a top 5 defense unit every single year during their Super Bowl runs. And then they went and added Deion Sanders- the greatest CB ever in '95.

That was an All-Star super team.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 21, 2022, 10:47:24 AM
It's a team sport.  Emmitt might not be in the HOF without Troy and that o-line.

One thing is certain-- the trench ponies never get enough accolades.
this.

it's a stupid argument. what all-time great HOF player who wins multiple championships doesn't play for all-time great coaches and with other all-time great players? 

Joe Montana played with Ronnie Lott and Jerry Rice and for Bill Walsh for f**ksake. That's only the greatest all-around DB, greatest WR, and greatest coach ever imo. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 12:17:41 PM
Ol Jimmy Johnson had some stoopid talent in the NCAA and the NFL

but, that's the head coach's job - get better players
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 22, 2022, 01:48:14 PM
it's a whole different ball-game now. Hard to compare eras. When Aikman came into the league in '89 it was a running league. The rule changes have made it pass happy today and everyone is putting up inflated stats. And not only was it a running league when Aikman came into it, but he was on the worst team- teams earn the #1 pick by sucking. Aikman got beaten to hell his first couple years in the league on a bad team with a bad o-line. It took Jimmy a few years but he restocked the cupboards via drafts and trades and then they took off like a rocket.

Aikman is to this day one of the most gifted passers I've ever seen. The guy could really just throw the shit out of the football- they just didn't ask him to throw it that often and in that era it was a running league. The only guy from the 80s and 90s that was putting up stupid #'s was Marino- but he's arguably the most gifted passer the league has ever seen.
Yeah man, I get it but if you can’t appreciate the absurdity of that fact you’re just making an effort not to.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 04:53:07 PM
rooting for the Bengals

I like the head coach
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 22, 2022, 05:43:58 PM
Go Houston Oilers!

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2022, 06:41:42 PM
It's a team sport.  Emmitt might not be in the HOF without Troy and that o-line.

One thing is certain-- the trench ponies never get enough accolades.
They always seem to when people talk about Emmitt.  
They ignore Emmitt was great in HS and college.
They ignore any and all backup RBs in Dallas sucked during the Emmitt years, running behind the same OL.
.
He wasn't as flashy as Barry Sanders, so we have to slight him by complimenting his OL every chance we get.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2022, 06:43:01 PM
wasn't just Emmitt. That entire team was stocked, locked, and loaded. Michael Irvin was probably the 2nd best WR of that entire era. Really only Jerry Rice was better imo. Maybe Sterling Sharpe would've been better if not for the career ending injury. Maybe Cris Carter was as good. But that's it. The OL was massive and talented and the best in the entire league for a good 5-6 year run. The TE's were pretty solid with Jay Novacek. Not to mention their 90s defenses were the #1 defenses in the league for like 3 years in a row from '92 to '94. In the 90s they were a top 5 defense unit every single year during their Super Bowl runs. And then they went and added Deion Sanders- the greatest CB ever in '95.

That was an All-Star super team.
Thanks, Vikings.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 22, 2022, 07:08:21 PM
They always seem to when people talk about Emmitt. 
They ignore Emmitt was great in HS and college.
They ignore any and all backup RBs in Dallas sucked during the Emmitt years, running behind the same OL.
.
He wasn't as flashy as Barry Sanders, so we have to slight him by complimenting his OL every chance we get.
You don't have to convince me, I'm a huge fan of Emmitt Smith.

But I was talking more about individual accolades at the pro level.  Emmitt, Michael, and Troy were easy HOF selections.  The linemen get talked about a lot, but only LArry Allen has been inducted to the HOF.  If that o-line was so otherworldly-good that it's the main reason Emmitt and Troy were successful-- as a lot of folks like to imply-- then I'd expect more of them to be in there...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 07:27:06 PM
well, most folks agree that Emmitt's O-line was vastly superior to Barry's O-line

most folks that know football also think that Emmitt's O-line was one of the best of all-time in the NFL

Perhaps Emmitt made the O-line look very good and helped earn them the accolades they seem to get?

and, perhaps giving credit to a great O-line isn't a slight to the running back
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 22, 2022, 07:44:10 PM
Tied at 16, the Bengals flip the imminent finish in Nashville. With Tennessee driving, Tannehill tosses a third pick resulting from a tipped pass, this with about :30 left at Midfield. Joe Burrow then launches a strike to Chase deep enough to put the Bengals in FG range. McPherson nails a 52 ydr as regulation expires. 

Bengals unheralded defense really stepped up all game to stop Derrick Henry and frustrate Tannehill.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 22, 2022, 08:00:34 PM
well, most folks agree that Emmitt's O-line was vastly superior to Barry's O-line

most folks that know football also think that Emmitt's O-line was one of the best of all-time in the NFL

Perhaps Emmitt made the O-line look very good and helped earn them the accolades they seem to get?

and, perhaps giving credit to a great O-line isn't a slight to the running back
Eh, there's a difference between giving credit to Emmitt's o-line, and replying to any and all compliments toward Emmitt with "yes, but..."-- which is a LOT of what goes on when discussing Emmitt's relative success.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 22, 2022, 08:08:42 PM
Everyone shits on the Lions' OL, but they had 2 multiple-Pro Bowlers in C Rich Glover and T Lomas Brown.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 22, 2022, 08:20:15 PM
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/05/08/eb9afc2a-b87a-497a-9dc1-d9588234f930/thumbnail/1200x675/76fd14fc3ec4d7454d979500c44ccf08/joe-burrow.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 08:23:13 PM
Thanks, Vikings.
damn you

but, true

thanks for nuttin Herchel

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 22, 2022, 09:23:57 PM
You don't have to convince me, I'm a huge fan of Emmitt Smith.

But I was talking more about individual accolades at the pro level.  Emmitt, Michael, and Troy were easy HOF selections.  The linemen get talked about a lot, but only LArry Allen has been inducted to the HOF.  If that o-line was so otherworldly-good that it's the main reason Emmitt and Troy were successful-- as a lot of folks like to imply-- then I'd expect more of them to be in there...
I’d take a look at how they were honored during their playing careers.  Allen, Newton, Stepnoski, and Williams not only received multiple Pro Bowl nods but multiple All Pro nods, which are much harder to come by.  I don’t think Williams will ever be a HOF because he has too much off the field baggage and his career wasn’t so impressive that you just can’t leave him out.

I still wouldn’t be surprised if Newton and Stepnoski don’t get voted in at some point.  Whether they do or not it doesn’t change the fact that was a hell of a line that was dotted with All Pros almost across the board.

But I understand getting a little salty.  There does seem to be a lot of “Yeah, but the line” when Emmitt’s name comes up.  He was terrific in his own right.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 22, 2022, 10:52:31 PM
Hhhhuuuugggeee punt block for the Niners knots it at 10.  Late 4th.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 22, 2022, 11:00:35 PM
This game is dumb, bad, kind of amazing.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 11:09:34 PM
I like it!!!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 22, 2022, 11:11:57 PM
Jolly Rogers 0-4 vs Niners in the P.O.s
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on January 22, 2022, 11:19:39 PM
Rodger Sherman@rodger

The Bears cut Robbie Gould in 2016, leading to years upon years of kicker-related angst and frustration, but it was all part of the grand plan to have him hit a game-winning field goal against the Packers in 2022. 4D Chess.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 02:35:27 AM
Thanks, Vikings.
yeah, dumbest trade ever. Vikings gave away the farm.

Herschel Walker had just came off a monster 1,500 yard rushing season on a terrible team. Vikings were a playoff team who thought they were one player away. Whoops. Walker wanted to be in Dallas, he didn't want to go to Minnesota. He basically quit on the Vikings once he was there.

Have to give Jimmy Johnson a ton of credit for cashing in on the picks though. Lots of teams could've bungled that package. No doubt in my mind the Detroit Lions would've. Jimmy nailed the freaking draft like no other coach I've ever seen except for maybe Bill Walsh. That dude nailed draft picks too. Not a coincidence that one guy had the dynasty of the 80s and the other guy had the dynasty of the 90s.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 02:43:58 AM
You don't have to convince me, I'm a huge fan of Emmitt Smith.

But I was talking more about individual accolades at the pro level.  Emmitt, Michael, and Troy were easy HOF selections.  The linemen get talked about a lot, but only LArry Allen has been inducted to the HOF.  If that o-line was so otherworldly-good that it's the main reason Emmitt and Troy were successful-- as a lot of folks like to imply-- then I'd expect more of them to be in there...
Well having a great O-line certainly doesn't hurt. I agree 100% that Emmitt, Michael, and Troy were no-brainer HOF selections. They are all elite talents and were at the very top of the league at their positions during their era. I mean who was better than Emmitt? Barry Sanders. That's it. Who was better than Michael? Jerry Rice. That's it. They were both literally better than every other player in the league at their position except one.

Larry Allen wasn't just a HOF player- that dude is the single greatest interior linemen that's ever played football if you ask me. Dominant isn't even the right word. More like freaking terrifying. Erik Williams would've been a HOF'er if not for that horrific car accident which mangled his body. He was never quite the same guy after that. He was still an All-Pro and Pro-Bowl selection after that accident- but he was on track/pace to be maybe the best RT ever and certainly the best of that era before that accident. Still remember him owning Reggie White in the playoffs in '92. Who does that? Oh yeah, no one. He's got a borderline HOF case imo. Nate Newton was named to 6 Pro Bowls and 2 All-Pros and Stepnowski was named to 5 Pro Bowls and 3 All-Pros. They were a hell of a unit. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 02:51:57 AM
Everyone shits on the Lions' OL, but they had 2 multiple-Pro Bowlers in C Rich Glover and T Lomas Brown.
yeah, their OL sucked. And their QB's sucked even worse.

You mean Kevin Glover. He was a great center, but one guy does not make an OL. Lomas Brown was a top tier pass blocker, but he was kinda meh as a run blocker. And that's two guys. The other 3 guys on their line stunk for 90% of Barry's career. They also never utilized TE's or FB's. The first year they gave Barry Sanders a fullback he ran for 2,053 yards. And the Lions QB's were god awful.

If that Lions team had a real-life QB and an OL it would've been something to behold because Barry Sanders was like a freaking cheat code and their collection of WR's were actually really good. Herman Moore, Brett Perriman, and Johnnie Morton were a nice crew.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 03:00:36 AM
Jolly Rogers 0-4 vs Niners in the P.O.s
he also just lost a home playoff game. again.

For as talented as he is, he doesn't do a lot of winning in the post-season. The Packers had a top tier rushing attack and defense this year. There really is no excuse for that L they just took at home to a pretty pedestrian 10-7 49ers team that needed to win their last game of the season to even make the playoffs. He's now 7-9 in the post-season since winning his one Super Bowl 11 seasons ago. And this is despite having #1 seeds and home-field throughout in 5 of those 11 seasons- they were 15-1, 13-3, 13-3, 12-4, 13-4 - and #1 seeds and bounced out of the playoffs at home each time. Crazy.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 05:03:41 AM
Sanders was great, obviously.  The fact that he had idiotic coaching stinks.

It's just weird that a guy who had the most carries by far, the most rushing yards by far, and the most TDs by far is treated like Rodney Dangerfield.  What could Emmitt have done to get more respect?  20,000 yards?  200 TDs?  I mean fuck.

Many probably don't know this, but he had the 2nd most rushing yards in high school.  Ever.  

I can't help but feel like if he had the same EXACT career in the NFL, but ran a 4.4 second 40, people would think more highly of him.  And that's stupid.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 23, 2022, 06:19:02 AM
F the Packers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 08:19:47 AM
Have to give Jimmy Johnson a ton of credit for cashing in on the picks though. Lots of teams could've bungled that package. No doubt in my mind the Detroit Lions would've. Jimmy nailed the freaking draft like no other coach I've ever seen except for maybe Bill Walsh. That dude nailed draft picks too. Not a coincidence that one guy had the dynasty of the 80s and the other guy had the dynasty of the 90s.
No one hates the Squeelers as much as I but Noll made a deal with the Devil on Draft Day aslo
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 23, 2022, 08:36:24 AM
No one hates the Squeelers as much as I but Noll made a deal with the Devil on Draft Day aslo
Legendary draft master. Got Bradshaw on a coin flip with Halas. Halas then traded the pick to the Fackers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 23, 2022, 08:49:39 AM
damn you

but, true

thanks for nuttin Herchel


Mike Lynn is my hero.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 08:50:21 AM
he also just lost a home playoff game. again.
well, he's a douche so..

we all know special teams lost the game, Rogers didn't play terribly, but yes he did.  He did VERY little after the opening drive and nothing in the 2nd half

gotta put up more than 10 points at home, especially if you know your special teams SUCK.  Finish the drive, go for it on 4th down.  The 9ers had the balls.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
Aaron Rodgers getting eliminated earlier than expected is my favorite NFL tradition
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 09:12:03 AM
https://twitter.com/Schuster_Elias/status/1353488439832936454?t=8sTT2qVBKmFkF0e834q2iQ&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 09:52:00 AM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/s600x600/272393462_10221234894044435_6640583106467004104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=b8V_iZLixv8AX9XaKvc&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AT8_VncSCKIK2_3VWGwGQ_sM8j-lm2-dF2uM5f0PO9MQfg&oe=61F34E53)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 23, 2022, 10:03:46 AM
Aaron Rodgers = Dan Marino. Stat sheet filler in the regular season, playoff choke artist. 

I guess this isn't the first time this year that we all thought Aaron Rodgers had a shot. Or two.

As for the coaches, all you need to know about them is that on the game-winning FG attempt, the Packers only had 10 men out there.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 10:12:13 AM
maybe they only had 9 men on the punt team

the long snapper that was run over on the blocked punt looked like he weighed about 220 pounds
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 23, 2022, 10:38:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6tOT46U.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 23, 2022, 10:50:43 AM
Rodgers is taking a beating. I like it.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 11:51:48 AM
Statistically, Rodgers has been a better postseason QB than Brady.  

Completion percentage 
TD/INT ratio 
TD pass %
INT %
YPA
QB rating 

All Rodgers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 12:16:07 PM
There's one stat you left out - kind of a biggy
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 12:28:28 PM
There's one stat you left out - kind of a biggy
A lot goes into that one though, right?  Not just how well the QB played.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 01:29:42 PM
A lot goes into that one though, right?  Not just how well the QB played.
But over 20 years, and multiple roster constructions, and you have one through line...

And FTR, I have said I think Rodgers is the most physically talented QB in NFL history.  But a million dollar arm and a 2 cent head only gets you so far.  I've never seen a whinier on field/court/ice player than him, and I think that mentality is why we are where we are with him.  The Patriots "culture" was Brady.  Say what you want about him, but players respect him.  All different kinds of players.  He has a way of figuring out the Gronks of the world, and the Antonio Browns, and the Randy Mosses.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 01:49:09 PM
Rodgers can be a douche so it’s easy to pile on him when he loses, but he’s actually been a really good postseason QB.  It’s easy to look at W-L records and assign labels like clutch or choke.  It’s a lazy take.

 Brady has been undeniably great but he’s gotten help too. Brady’s teams on average have given up 20.03 points per game in the playoffs.  Rodgers’ teams about 26.8.  An extra TD to overcome per game makes a difference in playoff success.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 01:55:17 PM
Rodgers can be is a douche 
nuff said
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 02:05:43 PM
Rodgers can be a douche so it’s easy to pile on him when he loses, but he’s actually been a really good postseason QB.  It’s easy to look at W-L records and assign labels like clutch or choke.  It’s a lazy take.

 Brady has been undeniably great but he’s gotten help too. Brady’s teams on average have given up 20.03 points per game in the playoffs.  Rodgers’ teams about 26.8.  An extra TD to overcome per game makes a difference in playoff success.
It's not a lazy take,60 he didn't deliver after a couple of drives.The intagibles are huge with him, negatively so,he simply comes across like meh,he's got his coin and acts contemptible if demands/requests aren't catered to.Brady could make his own breaks when in crunch time,Rodgers sporadically.I hope he does leave,doubt if he gets another ring.Wasn’t this the Green Bay Packers’ criticism of Aaron? He’s not really a team guy. He’s an Aaron guy. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 23, 2022, 02:40:13 PM
But over 20 years, and multiple roster constructions, and you have one through line...

And FTR, I have said I think Rodgers is the most physically talented QB in NFL history.  But a million dollar arm and a 2 cent head only gets you so far.  I've never seen a whinier on field/court/ice player than him, and I think that mentality is why we are where we are with him.  The Patriots "culture" was Brady.  Say what you want about him, but players respect him.  All different kinds of players.  He has a way of figuring out the Gronks of the world, and the Antonio Browns, and the Randy Mosses.
That strike me as a bit of an overstatement. 

He's objectively one of the best to ever play that position, and it's not like he's been a BAD postseason QB, but not a particularly exceptional one. And it's fair to say he's not Tom Brady, but no one really is (especially considering Brady's modest physical and pure improvisational talent).

If he was several ticks better as a personality, would he have another title? I dunno, somewhere between maybe and probably, I guess. But in the end, it kinda white washes over two points. 1. Winning a super bowl is freaking hard, and sometimes weird. Drew Brees has one, Jim Plunkett two. No one is singing the praises of two-time winner Ben Roethlisberger above the shoulders. And if you can win a Super Bowl by throwing for 179.7 yards and less than a TD a game (beating the GOAT), there seems to be a bit of randomness to it all. 2. Teams put you in position to win titles. While defenses don't win championships as much anymore, they can lose them. He's has more than a few defenses that didn't make his life easier (like say Brady's first three, at least).

This is all to say that it's kinda random and weird sometimes. Brady was denied titles by hilariously inferior teams, and won titles with inferior teams. Rodgers is very, very good, and it seems unlikely he has some magic cap because he's a schmuck (which he seems to be!), but because that's sometimes how it goes. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 02:50:39 PM
It's not a lazy take,60 he didn't deliver after a couple of drives.The intagibles are huge with him, negatively so,he simply comes across like meh,he's got his coin and acts contemptible if demands/requests aren't catered to.Brady could make his own breaks when in crunch time,Rodgers sporadically.I hope he does leave,doubt if he gets another ring.Wasn’t this the Green Bay Packers’ criticism of Aaron? He’s not really a team guy. He’s an Aaron guy.
What do you mean Brady makes his own breaks?  That’s just things people say that have no substance.  I agree in the game last night Rodgers wasn’t particularly great but he wasn’t particularly bad either.

The biggest difference between Brady and Rodgers is when he has a meh game like that his team seems to bail him out more than Rodgers.  And please, if somebody tries to tell me that’s because they like him or respect him more I’ll puke.  Brady’s teams don’t play better defense out of some sense of loyalty to him.  They play better because they are better, or coached better, or whatever.  Green Bay didn’t have special teams breakdowns because Rodgers is moody.

Narratives get created and people just sort of blindly accept them.  I like to look deeper into those sometimes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 23, 2022, 02:53:54 PM
Rodgers is taking a beating. I like it.
Pretty clear that COVID wasn't the only thing he failed to get immunized from. 

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 03:14:23 PM
What do you mean Brady makes his own breaks?  That’s just things people say that have no substance.  I agree in the game last night Rodgers wasn’t particularly great but he wasn’t particularly bad either.

The biggest difference between Brady and Rodgers is when he has a meh game like that his team seems to bail him out more than Rodgers.  And please, if somebody tries to tell me that’s because they like him or respect him more I’ll puke.  Brady’s teams don’t play better defense out of some sense of loyalty to him.  They play better because they are better, or coached better, or whatever.  Green Bay didn’t have special teams breakdowns because Rodgers is moody.

Narratives get created and people just sort of blindly accept them.  I like to look deeper into those sometimes.
I respect him more really,so hurl away 🤮 he's a gamer,He does he takes the big bucks and and earns it.What did Rodgers do in the 2nd half? the great ones have what he lacks - moxie,the Packers caved into practically every demand he's made.ELA's right,million dollar talent and a 10 cent head.His ridiculous crap last off season - did you pay attention? Then earlier this seaon giving the team and reporters the impression he was immunized when he wasn't.Not dialed in and a Diva
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 03:52:14 PM
I respect him more really,so hurl away 🤮 he's a gamer,He does he takes the big bucks and and earns it.What did Rodgers do in the 2nd half? the great ones have what he lacks - moxie,the Packers caved into practically every demand he's made.ELA's right,million dollar talent and a 10 cent head.His ridiculous crap last off season - did you pay attention? Then earlier this seaon giving the team and reporters the impression he was immunized when he wasn't.Not dialed in and a Diva
You keep focusing on just the Niner game last night.  I’m talking about over the course of his career.  But yeah, Rodgers was 20-29 for 225 yards.  No TD’s. No picks.  Pretty meh game for the most part.  Not terrible, but not great.  I could probably find half a dozen playoff games Brady has played worse in and won.  Hell, both of the Super Bowl wins against the Rams come to mind right off the top of my head

And it wasn’t because he had “moxie” or “made his own breaks” or any other term that sounds good but means nothing.  It’s because his team played better and bailed him out of a so-so game.  Simple as that.

But we look at the winning QB and assign a clutch narrative and the losing one assign a choke narrative.  It’s lazy.  Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 03:54:03 PM
Pretty clear that COVID wasn't the only thing he failed to get immunized from.


https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1485102287936704516?s=20
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 03:55:16 PM
Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.
Has anyone praised him today?

It's not like this is the first time for him
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 04:03:26 PM
Brady making me look bad after calling Rodgers by far the biggest whiner
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Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 04:07:36 PM
You keep focusing on just the Niner game last night. 
No you piped up when it was pointed out he was 0-4 vs niners and 7-9 in the Play oFfs since he last won the hardware in 2010. How many guys have collected more money in the last 12 years?It's all about the benjamins - Just Win Baby


But we look at the winning QB and assign a clutch narrative and the losing one assign a choke narrative.  It’s lazy.  Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.
His defense didn't give him the ball back enough times?



Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 04:24:35 PM
What is Brady's worst playoff game ever?  Are we watching it?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 04:33:10 PM
No you piped up when it was pointed out he was 0-4 vs niners and 7-9 in the Play oFfs since he last won the hardware in 2010. How many guys have collected more money in the last 12 years?It's all about the benjamins - Just Win Baby
His defense didn't give him the ball back enough times?




I wasn’t piping up about games against the Niners specifically.  I was piping up about the narrative that Rodgers has been a choke artist in the playoffs. He hasn’t.  He’s actually been pretty damn good.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 04:34:43 PM
Has anyone praised him today?

It's not like this is the first time for him
It goes to support my earlier point about a team can win or lose outside of how the QB plays.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 23, 2022, 04:47:07 PM
Statistically, Rodgers has been a better postseason QB than Brady. 
Completion percentage
TD/INT ratio
TD pass %
INT %
YPA
QB rating

All Rodgers.


I'm finished with Rodgers stats apologetics. After Saturday's choke I'm convinced Rodgers plays to protect his Passer Ratings and TD/INT ratio before bothering with the bigger picture of actually winning the game. For long stretches against the Niners Rodgers would only throw to either Aaron Jones on screens or Davante Adams on sideline outs. This safely kept his completion percentage high while minimizing his INTs.

Notice the one pass for six yards to Allen Lazard. His only catch from the slot position came on a 3rd-n-short to set up a 1st-n-goal on a 14 play drive that finished with a FG to put Green Bay up 10-3 early in the 4th Q. Lazard was matched with a LB, as he had been for most of the game, because the Niners were instead assigning so much manpower to covering and Adams and guiding him toward the sideline with double coverage.

So why, if an LB was usually matched on Lazard at Slot WR, didn’t Rodgers exploit this match up more? It’s especially questionable given how banged up the Niners secondary was. If Rodgers wasn’t going use the rest of the field, as the Niners must’ve realized, they only needed to keep Rodgers shorter passes to Adam or Jones from resulting in YAC.

As the game moved along there was no sense of throwing downfield from Aaron. Instead it was Garoppolo thriving late with higher risk 3rd down passes to Samuel and Kittle.

Could it be Rodgers concerted fostering of these stats that might counterintuitively be holding Green Bay back?

(https://i.imgur.com/O6OELxI.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 23, 2022, 05:11:03 PM


Notice the one pass for six yards to Allen Lazard. His only catch from the slot position came on a 3rd-n-short to set up a 1st-n-goal on a 14 play drive that finished with a FG to put Green Bay up 10-3 early in the 4th Q. Lazard was matched with a LB, as he had been for most of the game, because the Niners were instead assigning so much manpower to covering and Adams and guiding him toward the sideline with double coverage.

So why, if an LB was usually matched on Lazard at Slot WR, didn’t Rodgers exploit this match up more? It’s especially questionable given how banged up the Niners secondary was. If Rodgers wasn’t going use the rest of the field, as the Niners must’ve realized, they only needed to keep Rodgers shorter passes to Adam or Jones from resulting in YAC.
The bolded part is almost certianly incorrect, FYI
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 05:12:42 PM
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 23, 2022, 05:24:58 PM
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.
This. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 05:45:37 PM
that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Mike Evans took a real dirty helmet to helmet shot there, should've been a personal foul and Tampa gets an automatic first down. Instead, because the ball hit the ground after he took the hit, Rams get the ball turnover on downs, get pushed 15 yards back and it's 1st and 10. 

NFL has really has some stupid ass rules. We see this every single year. Either give the ball to the Bucs and it's a new set of downs, or give the ball to the Rams and have them have to go 1st and 25. WTF is the god damn point of the penalty otherwise? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:11:24 PM
holy shit. Tampa right back in this in position to tie it up. I turned the game off at 27-3. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 23, 2022, 06:11:35 PM
Oh FFS with this game.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:12:09 PM
Oh FFS with this game.
this game is playing out like a vintage Tom Brady game. if he ties it up and it goes to OT, Bucs are a lock to win.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 23, 2022, 06:27:13 PM
this game is playing out like a vintage Tom Brady game. if he ties it up and it goes to OT, Bucs are a lock to win.
Well, Kupp made sure OT didn't happen lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:27:43 PM
literally don't understand Bucs defensive play-calling that last play. Rams had no timeouts and 30 seconds left in the game. Pretty much the only way they could beat you was on a big play down the field. Bucs send an all-out blitz and leave Winfield in man coverage with Cooper Kupp and that's all she-wrote. I don't know how you don't have everyone playing back. Todd Bowles just cost them an NFC Championship. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:28:50 PM
Well, Kupp made sure OT didn't happen lol.
he's been the best WR in the league this year. That was an insane play to win the game. And I'd say Todd Bowles did that moreso than Cooper Kupp. That was horrible defensive play-calling on the last drive. They had no timeouts and 30 seconds. Put everyone back.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 23, 2022, 06:29:09 PM
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.


A better wording would be that Rodgers’ overly conservative performances resulting playoff losses end up protecting certain passing stats that his supporters trumpet. If you’re Rodgers in another upset playoff loss and getting unexplainably outlasted by Jimmy G at home, it invites absurdist overreactions searching for answers.

Lazard is lined up against an LB on this play:

https://twitter.com/proftblculture/status/1485091897978888196

And here’s Lazard wide open and ignored on 3rd down of Green Bay’s last possession (3rd & 11 w/ 3:40 left):

https://twitter.com/RyanMSampson/status/1485250029334011912
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 23, 2022, 06:30:10 PM
this game is playing out like a vintage Tom Brady game. if he ties it up and it goes to OT, Bucs are a lock to win.
Ha Stafford only needed 42 seconds to pull off his “Brady”.  

TB couldn’t luck into this one- although the Rams sure tried to help them with their constant fumbles.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:33:05 PM
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.
I wouldn't go that far. But I do think Rodgers goes through long stretches where he just gets too conservative. Sometimes he's a little resistant to just let it rip. Which, I can't say I blame him. He does a great job of not turning it over and hurting his team, but come playoff time you have to take more chances and just cut it loose.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 23, 2022, 06:34:51 PM
Ha Stafford only needed 42 seconds to pull off his “Brady”. 

TB couldn’t luck into this one- although the Rams sure tried to help them with their constant fumbles. 
Stafford has always been great in the clutch in Detroit. The guy has ice in his veins. Tampa DC f'ed up royally with his defensive play calls on the final drive and Stafford made them pay. Happy for Stafford that he's going to the NFC Championship. Hopefully he wins that and goes to the Super Bowl and wins that. No one deserves it more after playing for a dogshit franchise like the Lions for over a decade.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 23, 2022, 06:49:53 PM
Stafford has always been great in the clutch in Detroit. The guy has ice in his veins. Tampa DC f'ed up royally with his defensive play calls on the final drive and Stafford made them pay. Happy for Stafford that he's going to the NFC Championship. Hopefully he wins that and goes to the Super Bowl and wins that. No one deserves it more after playing for a dogshit franchise like the Lions for over a decade.
Yes- having lived in Michigan all of those years-I always wanted to see what he could do on a real team. 

TB was only in the game due to the Ram turnovers- which are not on Stafford.  It was pretty one sided other than that. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 06:54:26 PM
Stafford has always been great in the clutch in Detroit. The guy has ice in his veins. Tampa DC f'ed up royally with his defensive play calls on the final drive and Stafford made them pay. Happy for Stafford that he's going to the NFC Championship. Hopefully he wins that and goes to the Super Bowl and wins that. No one deserves it more after playing for a dogshit franchise like the Lions for over a decade.
This. Stafford's ability to pull Ws out of his ass would be less ignored if he wasn't in Detroit
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 07:06:59 PM

A better wording would be that Rodgers’ overly conservative performances resulting playoff losses end up protecting certain passing stats that his supporters trumpet. If you’re Rodgers in another upset playoff loss and getting unexplainably outlasted by Jimmy G at home, it invites absurdist overreactions searching for answers.

Lazard is lined up against an LB on this play:

https://twitter.com/proftblculture/status/1485091897978888196

And here’s Lazard wide open and ignored on 3rd down of Green Bay’s last possession (3rd & 11 w/ 3:40 left):

https://twitter.com/RyanMSampson/status/1485250029334011912
Well, yeah, it looks like if he waits an extra second he has Lazard.  I would guess that if someone wanted to they could isolate a play in literally every football game ever played and say, “Watch the QB miss an open receiver right here.”

What’s funny though is it illustrates the exact opposite of what you are claiming.  You claim Rodgers plays it safe to protect his stats and the play you use to illustrate is him winging it deep in double coverage instead of finding an underneath receiver.  You couldn’t have picked a worse play to prove your point.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 07:08:07 PM
I was going to blame the other safety that ran up on the short curl, but yeah, the did a slot blitz with man behind it.  Yes, it was shit coverage, but also a bad DC call.  I like wanting pressure, but you have to do it with AT LEAST a Cover 1 behind it.  A check-down doesn't matter.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 07:49:19 PM
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.
What was Brady down 27-3,what was Diva up?7-0,10-3,Biggest stage,biggest position,biggest performance?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 07:51:58 PM
Might be the best week end of NFL Playoffs....EVER
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 08:03:50 PM
What was Brady down 27-3,what was Diva up?7-0,10-3,Biggest stage,biggest position,biggest performance?
Lol. Yeah, I was actually hoping Brady would win.  It would have been a perfect example of a QB not playing that well but getting breaks that had nothing to do with him and winning anyway.  The Rams lost four fumbles.  If I believed what I read on here those were caused by Brady’s moxie and will to win.  Oh, and because his teammates respect him so much.  When Brady’s will to win caused the Rams center to snap it over Stafford’s head and I came out  of my seat and applauded.

I guess Brady didn’t have enough moxie to keep the Bucs from blowing their coverage on the last drive though.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 08:05:20 PM
I wouldn't go that far. But I do think Rodgers goes through long stretches where he just gets too conservative. Sometimes he's a little resistant to just let it rip. Which, I can't say I blame him. He does a great job of not turning it over and hurting his team, but come playoff time you have to take more chances and just cut it loose.
This is exactly wrong.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 08:12:08 PM
I guess Brady didn’t have enough moxie to keep the Bucs from blowing their coverage on the last drive though.
27pts is usually enough to grab a W,not sure about the other HOF effort
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 08:41:26 PM
Things heating up in KC
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 09:27:13 PM
Damn, that CB got Iverson-ed.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:27:57 PM
The NFL made a deal with the devil and I'm glad they did these play off.......sheesh

(https://susansheehey.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/celebrate.gif)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 09:28:08 PM
Might be the best week end of NFL Playoffs....EVER
ok, I'm in
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: rook119 on January 23, 2022, 09:29:23 PM
Chiefs-Bills is GOAT SB 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:32:17 PM
AGAIN omg,the devil's dealing
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
speed kills
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 09:33:32 PM
Was that fast?  It looked fast.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:34:31 PM
sounded fast
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:38:42 PM
on the bright side i have no money on it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:39:00 PM
MIND BLOWN!!!,4 lead changes last 2 minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 09:39:51 PM
They've gone from good defense to trying to Twelve at the end, sheesh.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 09:41:44 PM
holy SHIT
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 23, 2022, 09:42:35 PM
Simple little post route, lol
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 23, 2022, 09:42:56 PM
This has been a hell of a football weekend
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 23, 2022, 09:44:34 PM
Holy hell
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 09:45:13 PM
They're going for Monday morning.Can't make this shit up
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 23, 2022, 09:47:15 PM
 Bananas 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 23, 2022, 09:49:59 PM
This is … a lot 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 09:52:33 PM
a lotta fun for me
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 10:08:49 PM
The best weekend of the football season certainly delivered
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 23, 2022, 10:09:14 PM
Great game.  

Hard to agree with postseason OT rules that eliminate a team from having a possession.  Coin toss means too much- especially in this modern football where offenses have all of the advantages. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 23, 2022, 10:19:25 PM
Mahomes had 177 yards and 2 TDs... after the 2 minute warning. Also, it showed that 12 seconds was too much time to leave Mahomes. Buffalo kickoff team should have squibbed the kickoff. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 10:19:29 PM
don't like the outcome of OT???

you've got 60 minutes to prove you have the better team

tough titty
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 23, 2022, 10:21:30 PM
don't like the outcome of OT???

you've got 60 minutes to prove you have the better team

tough titty
Read a little bit closer next time.

Couldn’t care less about the outcome. Neither team proved it was better after 60 minutes. With these overtime rules only one team gets a chance. 

Why not just have a coin toss to see who the winner is.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 11:10:42 PM
if you couldn't care less, why bring it up

the team on the short side of the outcome knew well before hand the unfair rules of overtime

they did toss a coin to award one team the opportunity to have the ball first

if you're not up for the 50/50 shot of a coin toss, play to win in regulation

__________________________

other than that, go to the rules committee in the off-season

there's no crying in baseball
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 24, 2022, 12:47:51 AM
I believe I saw that NFL teams who win the counties in OT actually win at a lower clip than college teams who win the OT coin toss, although both are fairly close to 50/50.

It's something like 53% of the time in the NFL and like 56% in college (when both teams touch the ball)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 24, 2022, 08:02:59 AM
if you couldn't care less, why bring it up

the team on the short side of the outcome knew well before hand the unfair rules of overtime

they did toss a coin to award one team the opportunity to have the ball first

if you're not up for the 50/50 shot of a coin toss, play to win in regulation

__________________________

other than that, go to the rules committee in the off-season

there's no crying in baseball
How much do you drink during these games?😂
so- you are saying “the unfair rules of overtime”?

Because I never said that. 

The rules are fair because they apply equally.

all I did was ask the question: is it the best process in postseason NFL games to allow one team to have a possession and not the other team? 

For years we have generally agreed on this forum that the rules favor the offense, so in a game where it appears neither defense can stop the other team, is the process they are using the best way to Determine a winner?

just kind of wondering out loud. I just have to remember when I post something there’s a number of people who like to drink and post. 


Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2022, 08:15:57 AM
I drink plenty during games

I don't need a game to drink & post

is the process they are using the best way to Determine a winner?

usually, the powers that be just keep changing the process to try to appease folks that came out on the wrong end of the stick

no, it's probably not the best way, but nothing is perfect

it could be better, not going to argue that

heck, I guess we agree :86:
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 24, 2022, 08:20:27 AM
all I did was ask the question: is it the best process in postseason NFL games to allow one team to have a possession and not the other team? 
Agreed perhaps they should clip the way the OT is done during the season.It goes back/forth like ping pong,both these squads are deserving.After 4 months of pounding the snot out of each other,they deserve better than a coin flip,maybe an 8-9-10 minute Qtr?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2022, 08:28:22 AM
or they could do it like golf and have them suit up the following day and play another 60 minutes
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 24, 2022, 08:45:16 AM
Well they use to play an extra QTR back in the day.But in recent years during the season the LEAGUE implements this short,abridged version that has turned into a bastardized format of the Arena League.It should not hold court in the POs,IMHO
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2022, 08:51:02 AM
I'd be for the NCAA version

alternating possessions starting at the 50
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 24, 2022, 09:11:52 AM
In hindsight, I don't think that a dribble kick would have run off enough time to keep Mahomes and the Chiefs out of FG range. In addition to the 13 seconds, he also had all three timeouts.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 24, 2022, 09:12:34 AM
I drink plenty during games

I don't need a game to drink & post

is the process they are using the best way to Determine a winner?

usually, the powers that be just keep changing the process to try to appease folks that came out on the wrong end of the stick

no, it's probably not the best way, but nothing is perfect

it could be better, not going to argue that

heck, I guess we agree :86:
Well I think we do agree fearless.

and I will take responsibility to because although I’m Not much of a drinker and didn’t have any yesterday at all, the prior three days was my “friends visiting from Michigan for a golf weekend“. There may have been three or four bottles of bourbon and some lingering effects involved.🥴
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 24, 2022, 09:36:12 AM
Well they use to play an extra QTR back in the day.But in recent years during the season the LEAGUE implements this short,abridged version that has turned into a bastardized format of the Arena League.It should not hold court in the POs,IMHO
When?

They played 15 minutes, but it was total sudden death, so that KC could have just won it with a FG.  At least they had to score a TD now
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 24, 2022, 09:39:13 AM
When?

They played 15 minutes, but it was total sudden death, so that KC could have just won it with a FG.  At least they had to score a TD now
Yes that's the earliest OT rules I can remember for the NFL, but Mr. N is considerably older than both you and me.  Perhaps he's talking about the leather helmet days... ;)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 24, 2022, 09:43:23 AM
Yes that's the earliest OT rules I can remember for the NFL, but Mr. N is considerably older than both you and me.  Perhaps he's talking about the leather helmet days... ;)

😂😂
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 09:54:28 AM
After all the star power in these playoffs, I will find it hilarious if we get a SF/Cincy Super Bowl. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 24, 2022, 09:58:01 AM
After all the star power in these playoffs, I will find it hilarious if we get a SF/Cincy Super Bowl.
Last time we got it, it sure as hell delivered.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 24, 2022, 11:07:33 AM
Yes that's the earliest OT rules I can remember for the NFL, but Mr. N is considerably older than both you and me.  Perhaps he's talking about the leather helmet days... ;)
What are these helmets you speak of? Bastage
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 24, 2022, 11:16:21 AM
When?

They played 15 minutes, but it was total sudden death, so that KC could have just won it with a FG.  At least they had to score a TD now
Ya,Ya  - dat's da TICKET.Forgive me i spent half the weekend huffing/puffing  behind a 40 yr old Toro Blower belching exhaust - and trying to keep up with it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Kris60 on January 24, 2022, 11:53:56 AM
After all the star power in these playoffs, I will find it hilarious if we get a SF/Cincy Super Bowl.
Long time Bengal fans probably don’t want to see the Niners in SB again.  0-2 against them.  Of course, Joe Montana ain’t walking through the door anymore  either.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 24, 2022, 12:12:25 PM
Last time we got it, it sure as hell delivered.
(https://i.insider.com/5e32fd8e5bc79c288e381159?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 24, 2022, 01:47:26 PM
A 4-seed vs a 6-seed would be the NFL in a nutshell.

A couple of 10-7 teams duking it out to claim they're the champs.  
Brilliant.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 01:54:05 PM
A 4-seed vs a 6-seed would be the NFL in a nutshell.

A couple of 10-7 teams duking it out to claim they're the champs. 
Brilliant.
Yeah. The NFL would be WAY more fun to watch without a salary cap where 4 teams were allowed to amass SO much talent that no other team could typically remain within 30 points of them on any given Sunday. Then we can just let those 4 duke it out every year.

Exciting. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 02:10:36 PM
Yeah. The NFL would be WAY more fun to watch without a salary cap where 4 teams were allowed to amass SO much talent that no other team could typically remain within 30 points of them on any given Sunday. Then we can just let those 4 duke it out every year.

Exciting.
LOL. This. 


NFL is WAY more interesting, exciting than CFB. I am getting to the point where I don't even want to watch college football anymore. Too much consolidation at the top, and only 4 teams ever have a real chance to win it all. 

I think they need to drastically limit scholarships to like 65. This way top teams can't just take all the top talent. Leave some talent for everyone else.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 02:11:46 PM
A 4-seed vs a 6-seed would be the NFL in a nutshell.

A couple of 10-7 teams duking it out to claim they're the champs. 
Brilliant.
No...the NFL in a nutshell is man the f up, sack up and play ball. Winner takes all. Loser goes home. 

Don't want to go home? Show up and play some f**king football. Play like shit and you'll get beat and go home. 

Best playoff in all of sports, and it's not even close.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2022, 02:16:24 PM
I prefer the Stanley cup playoffs to any other.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 24, 2022, 02:17:22 PM
I prefer the Stanley cup playoffs to any other.
What sport is that... cricket?  Jai alai?

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2022, 02:19:37 PM
Naked mud wrestling.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 02:29:59 PM
I prefer the Stanley cup playoffs to any other.
I hate best of. I love one game elimination. Stakes are so much higher. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 02:43:04 PM

I think they need to drastically limit scholarships to like 65. This way top teams can't just take all the top talent. Leave some talent for everyone else.
Nah. Cat is out of the bag with NIL. Limit to 65 and you'll be amazed at how many 5* "walk-ons" go to 'Bama, OSU, etc. 

Who needs a scholarship when the boosters will just pay you many multiples of the value of that scholarship?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on January 24, 2022, 03:09:56 PM
XXIII,  that was a Michael Jackson halftime and 3 D glasses.    Joe Robbie Stadium was shiny and new.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 24, 2022, 03:11:44 PM
Last time we got it, it sure as hell delivered.
Delivered a lot of tears to little 9 year old me
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 24, 2022, 03:16:58 PM
XXIII,  that was a Michael Jackson halftime and 3 D glasses.    Joe Robbie Stadium was shiny and new.
https://youtu.be/C2ZryL4ljZQ

JFC, a fat Elvis was the halftime show. Up With People must have been booked already.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 03:18:41 PM
Delivered a lot of tears to little 9 year old me
Delivered $5 to 11-year old me.

I don't recall whether I bet my dad or my older brother that the Niners were going to win, but at 11 I probably shouldn't have been making bets anyway. And I sat in my grandma's kitchen watching the game with my family as whichever one I bet was rubbing it in that I was learning a lesson about gambling, late in the game, and then Montana came back to win. 

It's weird that I like this story more than the one where I got to meet Ickey Woods... 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on January 24, 2022, 04:32:25 PM
on the bright side i have no money on it
That TD by Kelce at the end made me $1,200.  That said I would have lost that to see the chiefs go down in defeat. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 05:04:14 PM
XXIII,  that was a Michael Jackson halftime and 3 D glasses.    Joe Robbie Stadium was shiny and new.
No, that Michael Jackson half-time was show was the first Cowboys-Bills Super Bowl in the '92 season. And it was a hell of a show, probably still the best half-time show ever. That was back before the child molestation accusations, when Michael Jackson was still the biggest star on planet earth. It's hard to put into words just how big that guy f**king was, and we'll probably never see someone that famous or huge again. He really turned the Super Bowl half-time show into the entertainment spectacle it is now. Before him, the half-time shows were high school or college marching bands or complete has-been washed up acts. It was a real joke.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2022, 05:14:15 PM
Lol. yeah.

(https://i.imgur.com/talJXsq.png)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
That Sharika show was something.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 05:31:33 PM
That Sharika show was something.
That Shakira show was borderline inappropriate. We had the kids that year and my wife was thinking it might not be the right thing for my going-on-teenage son to see, and CERTAINLY not for my young daughter. 

I certainly had no complaints about that one though. ;)

I remember the ~2004 "wardrobe malfunction" show. This was before I started brewing or had a kegerator, but I had people over so I had a keg of Miller Lite on the patio. I knew it was pretty much a "you've got a day and a half before this goes bad and anything you don't drink is wasted", so I was, well, close to wasted by halftime. I just remember seeing that and my brain just couldn't comprehend that I had just actually seen what I thought I saw. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 24, 2022, 05:32:07 PM
Any discussion of Super Bowl halftime shows begin with U2 and end with Prince. Then it's a long way back to anyone else.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 05:32:28 PM
We're looking forward to this year's show. 

Because you can't have a Super Bowl in Inglewood without Dre and Snoop, right? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2022, 05:33:58 PM
U2 was amazing. Prince was better. The best, in fact.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 24, 2022, 05:35:28 PM
That Shakira show was borderline inappropriate. We had the kids that year and my wife was thinking it might not be the right thing for my going-on-teenage son to see, and CERTAINLY not for my young daughter.

I certainly had no complaints about that one though. ;)

I remember the ~2004 "wardrobe malfunction" show. This was before I started brewing or had a kegerator, but I had people over so I had a keg of Miller Lite on the patio. I knew it was pretty much a "you've got a day and a half before this goes bad and anything you don't drink is wasted", so I was, well, close to wasted by halftime. I just remember seeing that and my brain just couldn't comprehend that I had just actually seen what I thought I saw.
I thought the old bud light ads made sure the Super Bowl was not agreeable to parents prone to covering their kids‘ eyes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on January 24, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
I thought the old bud light ads made sure the Super Bowl was not agreeable to parents prone to covering their kids‘ eyes.
I'd rather have those Bud Light ads than the ones from Nationwide that, when paraphrased, said "Insure with us or your kids die."
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 24, 2022, 05:51:03 PM
Yeah. The NFL would be WAY more fun to watch without a salary cap where 4 teams were allowed to amass SO much talent that no other team could typically remain within 30 points of them on any given Sunday. Then we can just let those 4 duke it out every year.

Exciting.
Uhhh, when has the NFL suffered from its dynasties?  The 70s was the Steelers/Raiders winner vs Dallas half the time.  The 49ers in the 80s, Dallas in the 90s and then the Pats with Brady. 
The NFL and its fans love dynasties or love to hate them.  It's historically been a lot like the playoff era of college football. 
Gee whiz, I wonder if that's a coincidence?!?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 05:57:51 PM
Uhhh, when has the NFL suffered from its dynasties?  The 70s was the Steelers/Raiders winner vs Dallas half the time.  The 49ers in the 80s, Dallas in the 90s and then the Pats with Brady. 
The NFL and its fans love dynasties or love to hate them.  It's historically been a lot like the playoff era of college football. 
Gee whiz, I wonder if that's a coincidence?!?
It's all about coaching, management, and maximizing the talent you can acquire. 

That's what the draft, free agency, and salary cap are about. It's to ensure that even if you don't have parity of coaching or management, every team has access to talent. If you suck badly enough, like Jacksonville, you get access to the equivalent of the "5* QB" with the first draft pick and Trevor Lawrence. 

Whereas CFB is all about using your shiny helmet to snag all the talent that exists and so the value of coaching only matters for about 10 teams out of 130. 120 of those teams will never have access to the 5* QB. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 06:30:01 PM
That Sharika show was something.
anything with Shakira is something. I can't stand her voice or her music, but I've seen a lot of videos/performances she's done on mute. She is one of the best looking women of all-time if you ask me lol. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 06:30:50 PM
Any discussion of Super Bowl halftime shows begin with U2 and end with Prince. Then it's a long way back to anyone else.
disagree with you on U2. Definitely agree with you on Prince. Actually forgot about that one. I'd vote that as the best ever. By far.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
U2 was amazing. Prince was better. The best, in fact.
This.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2022, 06:40:43 PM
anything with Shakira is something. I can't stand her voice or her music, but I've seen a lot of videos/performances she's done on mute. She is one of the best looking women of all-time if you ask me lol.
I'm surprised to hear you say that... She's only Colombian, not Brazilian!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 06:46:56 PM
Uhhh, when has the NFL suffered from its dynasties?  The 70s was the Steelers/Raiders winner vs Dallas half the time.  The 49ers in the 80s, Dallas in the 90s and then the Pats with Brady. 
The NFL and its fans love dynasties or love to hate them.  It's historically been a lot like the playoff era of college football. 
Gee whiz, I wonder if that's a coincidence?!?
You mean the NFL had dynasties in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s- when there was no free agency or hard salary cap. That was the entire point of introducing a hard salary cap and free agency in 1994. Dallas was the last dynasty of the old NFL and once the cap kicked in and free agency kicked in, Dallas wasn't able to maintain. They won exactly 1 more Super Bowl, in 1995, after the cap and free agency kicked in. And it wasn't exactly like Aikman, Emmitt, and Michael were old in 1996. They were still relatively young, in their prime players. Now Jimmy leaving had a lot to do with the fall off, but it's all the other guys they lost in free agency that they weren't able to just keep because of the cap restrictions and other teams over-paying for key contributing starters on a great team as is the norm now.

The Brady/Belichick Pats dynasty of the 2000s and 2010s is a complete anomaly that we didn't even see the likes of in the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s- and it featured maybe the greatest athlete ever (Brady) and maybe the greatest coach ever (Belichik) and stretched 9 Super Bowl trips and 6 Super Bowl wins over 20 seasons. We never saw that before and we're never going to see that again. Using that as an example is probably a bad idea.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 06:48:13 PM
I'm surprised to hear you say that... She's only Colombian, not Brazilian!
I might like Colombians more than Brazilians lol. Venezuelans and Argentinians look great too. South America has maybe the hottest women in the entire world. I believe a worldwide survey/poll actually named Colombian women as the best looking women in the world. Don't quote me on that though. That Sofia Vergara is something else. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 24, 2022, 07:38:07 PM
It's funny that Sofia Vergara wasnt mainstream until like 10-12 years after she was all over those Maxim-type magazines.  Maybe she was learning English or something, but she wasn't widely known until after her peak years.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 24, 2022, 08:06:28 PM
It's funny that Sofia Vergara wasnt mainstream until like 10-12 years after she was all over those Maxim-type magazines.  Maybe she was learning English or something, but she wasn't widely known until after her peak years. 
I knew about her back then :)

And yeah, you're right she wasn't hugely popular or well known until after her peak years, but even then she was SMOKING hot. Chick looks better in her 40's than most women in their 20's do lol.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 26, 2022, 11:37:23 AM
Good for 49ers fans projected to take over Sofi Stadium like they did all Red against the Rams in Week 18. The Rams, Chargers, and Raiders did this to themselves by seeking greener grass in sexier cities and hoping tickets would only sell to synthetically forced home fans. Hopefully Niners fans vape the place out.

Speaking of Vaping, nothing shouts “I vape” more than Kyle Shanahan constantly wearing his flat brims on the sideline:


(https://i.imgur.com/rRmmK4S.jpg)

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1485393680429195266
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 26, 2022, 04:02:39 PM
I do think LA needs a team.  I would have been fine with it being the Rams (although I would have preferred the Jaguars).

It was everything beyond that which was dumb.  Why did you move a 2nd team?  Why did you move a team with actual fan following to Vegas?

If they had just moved the Jags to LA and Chargers to Vegas, I'd get that
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 26, 2022, 04:11:53 PM
I do think LA needs a team.  I would have been fine with it being the Rams (although I would have preferred the Jaguars).

It was everything beyond that which was dumb.  Why did you move a 2nd team?  Why did you move a team with actual fan following to Vegas?

If they had just moved the Jags to LA and Chargers to Vegas, I'd get that
this. 

Jaguars need to move and change their logo and uniforms.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 26, 2022, 04:57:58 PM
Well, Las Vegas was already full of Raiders... They're called casinos. 

I don't get the idea of moving the Chargers to LA. San Diego loved them. Now San Diego hates them and Los Angeles views them as the second tier team in this market and doesn't care. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 26, 2022, 05:12:45 PM
SD just wasn't caving into the extortion,wish nation wide the citizenry would draw a line that has long ago been breeched
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2022, 05:13:15 PM
Well, Las Vegas was already full of Raiders... They're called casinos.

I don't get the idea of moving the Chargers to LA. San Diego loved them. Now San Diego hates them and Los Angeles views them as the second tier team in this market and doesn't care.

Between all the moves the Rams, Raiders, and now Chargers have made, I honestly get confused and don't remember which city any of them are in, anymore.  That's no joke.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 26, 2022, 05:14:30 PM
SD just wasn't caving into the extortion,wish nation wide the citizenry would draw a line that has long ago been breeched
this. that city told the owner of the billion dollar plus NFL franchise/asset- pay for your own god damn stadium. You'll get no free land, tax breaks, or money from us.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 26, 2022, 05:38:01 PM
It's not that league that was built by guys that toted lunch buckets
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 29, 2022, 03:49:12 PM
Tom Brady calling it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 30, 2022, 06:07:43 PM
Any body watching the No Fun League,they're in O.T.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 30, 2022, 06:12:12 PM
Any body watching the No Fun League,they're in O.T.
F'n yes I am
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 30, 2022, 06:22:05 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKYucg0XoAg7H6G?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 30, 2022, 06:29:17 PM
I don't f'n believe it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 30, 2022, 06:37:22 PM
Another great game.  I'm really enjoying just watching the 4th quarters/OT.

And the Super Bowl, to determine the champion of the league, will be between two 4-seeds or a 4 and a 6.  No teams with the top 8 W-L records will be involved.  World Champions!!!

entertainment >>>>>>> competition
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 30, 2022, 06:45:56 PM
Bengals-49ers, round 3? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 30, 2022, 06:48:00 PM
Tom Brady calling it
No he just suits up in Cinci
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 30, 2022, 07:42:30 PM
Another great game.  I'm really enjoying just watching the 4th quarters/OT.

And the Super Bowl, to determine the champion of the league, will be between two 4-seeds or a 4 and a 6.  No teams with the top 8 W-L records will be involved. World Champions!!!

entertainment >>>>>>> competition
Bungles 3-0 against the top two seeds in the AFC
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 30, 2022, 08:14:42 PM
49ers underdog blue print is pretty much finding ways to stick around against superior teams with superior quarterbacks by maximizing chances from the other team’s mistakes, pounce on more mistakes, find yourself still in the game late, and finally capitalize off the opponent’s inevitable bad luck deserved from allowing the 49ers to hang around in the first place.

Happening again for the 49ers in LA, up 10-7 at the half Vs the Rams.

https://twitter.com/mad_hill/status/1487975764330889217
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 30, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Another last minute contest
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on January 30, 2022, 09:39:57 PM
It's crazy how parity leads to entertaining postseasons
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 30, 2022, 10:39:15 PM
Bungles 3-0 against the top two seeds in the AFC
So they were a .500 team against worse teams?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 30, 2022, 11:45:13 PM
Bengals with Burrow at QB as a 3+ dog this season? 6-0 outright.

Give me the Bengals. Burrow is a special player and leader.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on January 31, 2022, 12:01:51 AM
Bengals with Burrow at QB as a 3+ dog this season? 6-0 outright.

Give me the Bengals. Burrow is a special player and leader.
Rams look pretty good

Bengals will need a few good breaks to beat em
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 06:07:09 AM
So they were a .500 team against worse teams?
Luckily they don't give trophies based on whether you beat the Browns
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on January 31, 2022, 06:53:13 AM
I thought Burrow would do really well but I figured they would need more time with supportive cast.  I wouldn't mind seeing Stafford win a ring.  A Bengals win would give me a kind of trifecta on championships if I count Cincy as "my team" (they really aren't, I'm not much for pro).
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 09:58:04 AM
I would love to see Stafford win a ring as well. I love both these QBs. Stafford and Calvin Johnson were the only reason to watch the Lions for about a decade. And Stafford was never a malcontent or bad guy, despite the shitshow franchise and all the losing, Stafford was always a great teammate and class act. Would love to see him win a ring. No one deserves it more after the decade plus in Football Siberia he was forced to stay in.

Burrow is just a special player. I think he’s going to win multiple Super Bowls and not that there is ever going to be an heir apparent to Tom Brady, but if anyone can come even a little bit close- I think it’s gonna be Burrow. As long as he stays healthy and his line doesn’t get him killed that is.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 31, 2022, 10:12:11 AM
Ya I agree on Stafford but unfortunately he's throwing to a butt hurt malcontent OBJ that got his daddy to do his bidding.He better study routes instead of his free lancing or it could be a long day for Stafford
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 10:26:41 AM
Ya I agree on Stafford but unfortunately he's throwing to a butt hurt malcontent OBJ that got his daddy to do his bidding.He better study routes instead of his free lancing or it could be a long day for Stafford
He's seemed to be a solid asset so far in LA. It's it possible the Browns were the problem?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 10:46:05 AM
He's seemed to be a solid asset so far in LA. It's it possible the Browns were the problem?
well, he's only been with the Rams for 8 games and they are in the Super Bowl. Odell is a front-runner who goes in the tank if things aren't going in his way. For 8 games plus the post-season, things have been going his way. And I'm sure he knows this is his 3rd chance and might be his last if he doesn't walk the straight and narrow and actually produce. There is no question he was a malcontent of the highest order in both New York and Cleveland.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 11:19:38 AM
well, he's only been with the Rams for 8 games and they are in the Super Bowl. Odell is a front-runner who goes in the tank if things aren't going in his way. For 8 games plus the post-season, things have been going his way. And I'm sure he knows this is his 3rd chance and might be his last if he doesn't walk the straight and narrow and actually produce. There is no question he was a malcontent of the highest order in both New York and Cleveland.
He's spent his entire career on crappy teams with mediocre QB play. In 7 seasons prior to this, he's only played in 1 playoff game. If he'd stayed on the Browns, he'd be 1 playoff in 8 seasons at this point. 

He's now played in 3 playoff games and he's going to the Super Bowl. 

Perhaps he was a malcontent because his talents were completely wasted on teams with bad management and no shot at a title. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 31, 2022, 11:28:09 AM
OBJ has the luxury of doing whatever because the Rams have Kupp and Jefferson running their routes and catching everything thrown their way.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on January 31, 2022, 11:30:28 AM
He's seemed to be a solid asset so far in LA. It's it possible the Browns were the problem?
Like with everything, the answer is usually both and winning cures all. 

it also probably doesn’t hurt that he’s basically all upside for the Rams. If he sucks, they just turn to someone else
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 11:37:35 AM
He's spent his entire career on crappy teams with mediocre QB play. In 7 seasons prior to this, he's only played in 1 playoff game. If he'd stayed on the Browns, he'd be 1 playoff in 8 seasons at this point.

He's now played in 3 playoff games and he's going to the Super Bowl.

Perhaps he was a malcontent because his talents were completely wasted on teams with bad management and no shot at a title.
It's nutty that the Browns straight up just cut the dude and now have no receivers. Now all I hear on sports radio is about Baker Mayfield's feelings but supposedly OBJ was the real problem.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 11:50:44 AM
https://twitter.com/hannahhfrancis/status/1487979236711407624?s=20&t=xR4IUV2wPBuTobE7_2GW9g
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 31, 2022, 11:58:27 AM
Win-win for me, since my rooting interest for NFL is nothing more than spotting former Tigers and hoping they have good games.  If Burrow/Chase/Shelvin/Moss win.....yay....they further cement their status as 2019 LSU legends.  If the Rams win, I'd be so happy for Whitworth finally getting a well-deserved shot, and for OBJ too.  He may be banned from campus and not the same after his injury, but he's still rightfully a fan favorite.  Interesting that the Saban/Miles/Orgeron eras will all be represented in this game.  And technically Brian Kelly has a WR in the game, so hell, I'm just gonna claim the next era is represented also.  

We had the most former players on all playoff teams, which is nice because our actual team sucks and we have to find something to cheer about.  Only the Packers had no Tigers.  They lost their first game.  Coincidence?  I think not.  San Francisco lost too, probably because of having only one former Tiger.  Kansas City demoting CEH to RB2 and Mathieu barely clearing concussion protocol was the cause of the Chiefs' downfall and you cannot convince me otherwise.  Our sub-six foot kings will rise again in September, along with Darrel Williams.  

But while I'm at it, Ima just leave this here: 

Joe Burrow came to LSU, a QB graveyard, won a NC and had the greatest passing season in college football history.  Now the Bengals, who haven't won a playoff game in 31 years and never won one on the road have won three, two on the road against the 1 and 2 seed, and will go to a SuperBowl.  

His powers are unlike anything we've ever seen.

That kicker from Florida, Evan McPherson, has ice in his veins.  Whatever the Bengals are paying him, it's not enough.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 12:15:50 PM
It's nutty that the Browns straight up just cut the dude and now have no receivers. Now all I hear on sports radio is about Baker Mayfield's feelings but supposedly OBJ was the real problem.
Browns didn't really have much choice. OBJ saw to it. 

He basically signaled to the world that if he was traded to a team he didn't like, he might have a little injury flare-up... I.e. nobody wanted to trade for him because they'd have to pick up the remainder of his contract, but they weren't sure they'd get someone who would buy in. So the trade deadline came and went and the Browns couldn't offload his contract.

So then it was clear the two sides were going to part. OBJ and the Browns negotiated a contract change that may have helped reduce the Browns' impact but at the same time contained enough of a financial poison pill that he would be sure to clear waivers. No team wanted to pick up the contract which, again, they'd have to do [and the Browns would no longer be responsible for] if they'd claimed him. 

OBJ got what he wanted--to be a true free agent, and have 100% choice in what team he would sign with. Clearly he chose a good situation.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
His powers are unlike anything we've ever seen.
I'm the biggest Joe Burrow lover there is outside of the city of Cincy. But...ever heard of a guy named Tom Brady? 

Joe Burrow only has 9 more Super Bowl starts and 7 Super Bowl wins to go to catch him....
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:41:06 PM
It's nutty that the Browns straight up just cut the dude and now have no receivers. Now all I hear on sports radio is about Baker Mayfield's feelings but supposedly OBJ was the real problem.
Baker kinda sucks. That's the real problem. He's never going to be a franchise QB. He's a JAG. Just another guy. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 31, 2022, 12:42:52 PM
Joe Burrow came to LSU, a QB graveyard, won a NC and had the greatest passing season in college football history.  Now the Bengals, who haven't won a playoff game in 31 years and never won one on the road have won three, two on the road against the 1 and 2 seed, and will go to a SuperBowl. 

ABSOLUTELY,during his days in C-Bus,many off us who actually attended games  made the argument to play him in 2016.On the old CFN Board and on Buckeye Boards at that time but there is a loathing Lizard Choad that assures me I was mistaken
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:45:11 PM
He's spent his entire career on crappy teams with mediocre QB play. In 7 seasons prior to this, he's only played in 1 playoff game. If he'd stayed on the Browns, he'd be 1 playoff in 8 seasons at this point.

He's now played in 3 playoff games and he's going to the Super Bowl.

Perhaps he was a malcontent because his talents were completely wasted on teams with bad management and no shot at a title.
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matt Stafford played longer on much crappier franchises and teams than the whiny little bitch OBJ did. None of them ever became distractions, never pointed blame at others, were always the consummate teammates and professionals, were always the first to take all the blame when things went wrong and were always the first to give the credit to their teammates when things when right.

I don't have a whole lot of respect for OBJ. He's a diva in the mold of Terrell Owens or Randy Moss, but he's never been and never will nowhere near as good as either of those guys. He's not even in the same universe talent or production wise as those guys.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 31, 2022, 12:52:14 PM
Baker kinda sucks. That's the real problem. He's never going to be a franchise QB. He's a JAG. Just another guy.
2020 he had a very good season and the Browns still had a decent passing game as DPJ definately stepped up Landry ,Njoku,Hooper even Higgins.Having a ripped up left shouder coudn't have helped.He'll be pedestrian,the O-Line had many holes to,winning cures everything
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on January 31, 2022, 01:00:06 PM
He's now played in 3 playoff games and he's going to the Super Bowl.

Perhaps he was a malcontent because his talents were completely wasted on teams with bad management and no shot at a title.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing.Maybe if injuries to the QB and the O-Line don't happen he would have kept his mouth shut and run his routes as assigned.He was popping off behind the scenes and many times running his own routes.Off course he'll behave now at least until he's not getting the throws or buried on the depth charts
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 31, 2022, 01:21:19 PM
I'm the biggest Joe Burrow lover there is outside of the city of Cincy. But...ever heard of a guy named Tom Brady?

But....ever heard of hyperbole, humor, and fandom?

Jeez.  I bet you're a hoot at parties.  

But if we're taking it at face value, sure Brady is the GOAT, but which of his SB-appearing teams had a mediocre defense and a OL actively trying to kill him?  A Michigan fan pissing in the cornflakes trying to make sure nobody forgets the UM guy is better than whatever anybody is happy about right now.  Hmm.  

Also....a Michigan fan is the biggest Burrow fan outside of Cincy?  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 01:28:23 PM
Also....a Michigan fan is the biggest Burrow fan outside of Cincy?
absolutely love his game and everything he stands for. ice in his veins, clutch, tremendous leader. he's the next closest thing we've got to Tom Brady imo and wouldn't take any QB over him in the NFL right now for the next decade plus. Not even Mahomes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 31, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
Hmm....some serious OBJ haters here.

I don't keep up with him nearly as much since leaving us, but he sure holds a lot of NFL records for a guy who's not good.  

On a related subject, pointing to championship rings--for anybody--is about as dumb as anything you can contrive.  Take a guy like Tom Brady...obviously a great case to be made for being the best ever.  But the margin that separates him and contemporaries like Manning and Brees are not that great, yet they only got 2 and 1 rings respectively.  There are so many other factors that it's not worth considering.  Andrew Whitworth has been perhaps the best OT in the league for 18 years, and this is the first he's ever sniffed a ring.  By this logic, Robert Horry is a greater basketball player than Michael Jordan.  More rings, bruh!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 03:11:39 PM
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matt Stafford played longer on much crappier franchises and teams than the whiny little bitch OBJ did. None of them ever became distractions, never pointed blame at others, were always the consummate teammates and professionals, were always the first to take all the blame when things went wrong and were always the first to give the credit to their teammates when things when right.

I don't have a whole lot of respect for OBJ. He's a diva in the mold of Terrell Owens or Randy Moss, but he's never been and never will nowhere near as good as either of those guys. He's not even in the same universe talent or production wise as those guys.
I'm not defending OBJ as a person.

But the nature of the NFL is that you often have little control over your future. You get drafted to whatever team picks you, and you're stuck with them 4 years. 5 if they exercise the 5th year contract option. Perhaps he shouldn't have signed a contract extension with the Giants, but he did, and then he got traded to the Browns. 

He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 31, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
Hmm....some serious OBJ haters here.

I don't keep up with him nearly as much since leaving us, but he sure holds a lot of NFL records for a guy who's not good. 

On a related subject, pointing to championship rings--for anybody--is about as dumb as anything you can contrive.  Take a guy like Tom Brady...obviously a great case to be made for being the best ever.  But the margin that separates him and contemporaries like Manning and Brees are not that great, yet they only got 2 and 1 rings respectively.  There are so many other factors that it's not worth considering.  Andrew Whitworth has been perhaps the best OT in the league for 18 years, and this is the first he's ever sniffed a ring.  By this logic, Robert Horry is a greater basketball player than Michael Jordan.  More rings, bruh!
Joe Thomas.


I was watching the game yesterday. Did not know that LA has two former Badgers starting on OL. Kinda neat.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 04:33:13 PM
The Rams had former Purdue TE Brycen Hopkins inactive yesterday, but Higbee left the game early with a knee injury. The Rams were running with only one healthy TE the rest of the game. 

Brycen Hopkins may play in the Super Bowl depending on whether the injury was serious... 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 04:55:05 PM
He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team.
says a lot about those guys that they never threw in the towel, became a distraction or a malcontent when they didn't get what they want and kept on doing their jobs and not being a problem while they were getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play a game. They aren't saving lives, they aren't making breakthrough discoveries in the sciences. They are playing a game.

Odell signed that fat contract with New York. If he didn't want to be there, he shouldn't have signed it. It's not like he was trapped on a bad team making nothing. They did only sign him to a 5-year, $100 million contract with $65 million in guarantees. Excuse me if I don't feel bad for someone making $20+ million a year because they are stuck on a crappy team. That's no excuse to be a whiny douche. Be a professional.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 05:15:38 PM
I'm not defending OBJ as a person.

But the nature of the NFL is that you often have little control over your future. You get drafted to whatever team picks you, and you're stuck with them 4 years. 5 if they exercise the 5th year contract option. Perhaps he shouldn't have signed a contract extension with the Giants, but he did, and then he got traded to the Browns.

He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team.
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 05:18:39 PM
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
I wouldn't say they just straight up quit. They retired. There's a difference. Can't play the game forever. Barry played 10 years, Calvin 9. Barry's passion for the game was gone, he just couldn't play anymore. Calvin's body was breaking down and he lost his passion on top of that.

Neither "quit" on their team a during a season or tried to force their way out to go to a new team where they thought they'd be happier. There was no quit in either of those guys. They both just retired. And once they retired, they were done. Neither ever even though of coming back to play football. That to me isn't quitting.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 07:32:55 AM
But....ever heard of hyperbole, humor, and fandom?

To be fair that's what these 😎🤣😜 are for,so i can see taking you at your word there.

https://youtu.be/V2f-MZ2HRHQ
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 07:44:11 AM
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
He wasn't getting blamed for the Browns problems,he just creates them.It's my understanding from listening to local sporsts talk that  he broke off his routes enough to be disruptive.the QB can't rely on timing patterns when some aren't sticking to the script.I really believe he was trying to over compensate for sitting out injured as the team had a better year w/o him.Mdot's right,crazy but right the diva should have to go to a real job for a while
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 01, 2022, 10:14:16 AM
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matt Stafford played longer on much crappier franchises and teams than the whiny little bitch OBJ did. None of them ever became distractions, never pointed blame at others, were always the consummate teammates and professionals, were always the first to take all the blame when things went wrong and were always the first to give the credit to their teammates when things when right.


Stafford’s immediate success with the Rams is widening the conversation around the Detroit Lions perpetual ineptitude. Detroit as a sort of black hole and wasteful of its best talent is such a known reality at this point that I’m wondering if potentially high draft picks will vocally refuse to be drafted to Detroit from now on.

We’ve seen guys like Eli Manning reject potentially playing for the Chargers along with John Elway similarly reject the Colts, but those were case by case one-offs. The Lions are so incompetent and squandering for so long I’m wondering if they risk becoming a league-wide franchise non grata to more than a few potential draftees who can leverage plans elsewhere before their drafting.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 10:22:23 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure what's worse.  Everyone the Browns draft seems to be a bust.  The Lions have had talent...and just keep wasting it
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:29:07 AM
Stafford’s immediate success with the Rams is widening the conversation around the Detroit Lions perpetual ineptitude. Detroit as a sort of black hole and wasteful of its best talent is such a known reality at this point that I’m wondering if potentially high draft picks will vocally refuse to be drafted to Detroit from now on.

We’ve seen guys like Eli Manning reject potentially playing for the Chargers along with John Elway similarly reject the Colts, but those were case by case one-offs. The Lions are so incompetent and squandering for so long I’m wondering if they risk becoming a league-wide franchise non grata to more than a few potential draftees who can leverage plans elsewhere before their drafting.
I've been saying that for years lol. If I was a top pick, I'd refuse to play for the Lions. I'd make them trade me or I'd just sit out and wait til the next draft.

I don't wish being drafted by the Lions on my worst enemy. And if I was Aidan Hutchinson and the Lions tried to draft me, I'd refuse to play for them.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 01, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
The GOAT retired today.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:32:35 AM
The GOAT retired today.
so weird to not be able to watch him play football next year. he's been a staple and pillar of the NFL for the last 20+ years.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 10:46:22 AM
I've been saying that for years lol. If I was a top pick, I'd refuse to play for the Lions. I'd make them trade me or I'd just sit out and wait til the next draft.
Oh c'mon you were just railing about the divas.I'd be a dick Owner if I had the coin and draft their ass .let them sit for a year - that rarely works out for them
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Oh c'mon you were just railing about the divas.I'd be a dick Owner if I had the coin and draft their ass .let them sit for a year - that rarely works out for them
there is a huge difference to me in signing a $100 mil contract and being a diva vs being a young kid just entering the draft who is being up front that he doesn't want to play for your team. huge difference. don't sign the dotted line, take the $100 million and then be a huge jerkoff when you don't get exactly what you want or things aren't going your way. 

I've got no problem with a player who is entering the draft saying he doesn't want to play for a certain team. Team has simple solution: don't draft the kid or draft him and trade him.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 10:54:41 AM
 Everyone the Browns draft seems to be a bust.  The Lions have had talent...and just keep wasting
Your right they have been crappy evaluators of talent.I wasn't kidding we could scrape together a pretty good scouting Dept from this forum.I can honestly say when ass wipe Haslem drafted Johhny Football or even Brandon Weedon not one of us  were pumping our fists screaming  Hell ya.More like Oh No Weeden turned 29 his rookie season.It really makes one question how these people got to where they were.Sad thing is Belichick wasn't much better
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 10:58:48 AM
there is a huge difference to me in signing a $100 mil contract and being a diva vs being a young kid just entering the draft who is being up front that he doesn't want to play for your team. huge difference.
Bull jive same diva - go work for a living,the league has rules to keep balance or at least a chance of it.Fine you don't want to play by the rules - sit out bitch,can't let the tail wag the dog.It's usually the Elways,Mannings - let them sit and no coin might change their minds
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 01, 2022, 04:19:53 PM
Now this is some bad texting

https://twitter.com/WigdorLaw/status/1488612654059069443?t=v2ar91aW8gk23TAH7Ncomw&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 01, 2022, 05:09:05 PM
Joe Thomas.

...was not in the league for 18 years, or currently :)


....but I get your point....dude was a beast.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 01, 2022, 05:10:32 PM
To be fair that's what these 😎🤣😜 are for,so i can see taking you at your word there.

It's not funny when you have to use emojis.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 01, 2022, 05:10:40 PM
Shame he didn't get to play on a winner.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 05:13:33 PM
Rooney rule strikes me as a dumb rule. It’s entire purpose was to pander, buy good PR.

NFL billionaire owners are gonna hire who they damn well please. They didn’t become billionaires by following rules, taking orders, or being told what to do. These are literally all trust fund douches who inherited money or type a personality captain of industry types who are egotistical maniacs. 

Flores suing the NFL just going to enhance the rep he has as difficult to work with. He’s still have a job in Miami if he wasn’t at war with the GM and had he bought into Tua as the QB of the future even a little bit. Dude never wanted Tua and he never kept that a secret within the organization. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 01, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
Shame he didn't get to play on a winner.

Yeah, but there are those of us who look at things differently.  Hopefully the players themselves do too.  Joe Thomas is a winner, period, end of discussion.  Doesn't matter to me if he ever got a ring.  Many players fit that category.  You give it your all, become elite at your position, that's all you can ask.  Everything else is out of your control.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 01, 2022, 05:21:28 PM
Yeah, but there are those of us who look at things differently.  Hopefully the players themselves do too.  Joe Thomas is a winner, period, end of discussion.  Doesn't matter to me if he ever got a ring.  Many players fit that category.  You give it your all, become elite at your position, that's all you can ask.  Everything else is out of your control. 
And I'm sure we don't need to pity someone who probably isn't crying into his beer in his solid gold and diamond-encrusted pint glass over it anyway :57:
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 01, 2022, 05:28:11 PM
I don't think OBJ's time with the Giants was contentious, whatever his preferences.  He routinely seemed to be fine there when interviewed.  Who knows what's going on in his head, but OBJ was always a loud personality.  Nobody ever wondered what was on his mind when he was in college.  He wasn't a problem, but he wasn't a quiet guy who blended in either. 

What's up with Eli Apple?  Dude roasted the Giants and Saints, then insulted the fans, and then went a step further to trash the city of New Orleans and then say the food is horrible.  Now he's trolled the Chiefs players, offering them tickets to the SB.  All I really know about him was watching him with the Saints and the playoff games with the Bengals.  Nobody should be a douche, but when you're not even good enough to earn some passes, you really should try harder to do the bare minimum.  And by "bare minimum" I mean....you know....not insulting and picking fights with fans and insulting their cities. 

Guys who quarrel with their peers within the league or management may have some growing up to do.  When you can't stop yourself from blasting the fans who make your career possible, you have major character flaws. 

ETA:  And if you dis NOLA's food, then you've left "douche" and crossed into "dumb" territory.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 05:38:17 PM
It's not funny when you have to use emojis. 
Jebis don't get an MC for a whole yr and half and you go to pieces
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 05:45:01 PM
What's up with Eli Apple?  
what's up with Eli Apple? he stinks. I still don't know how he was a top 10 pick just 5 seasons ago. He's already on his 4th team. 

Jeff Okudah also kinda sucks. What's going on with high draft pick OSU CB's? 

Lattimore is pretty damn good though. Even if he gets away with quite a bit of PI. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 01, 2022, 05:45:24 PM

ETA:  And if you dis NOLA's food, then you've left "douche" and crossed into "dumb" territory. 

Man I need to make a trip to NOLA soon, it's now been 4 or 5 years and we normally get there at least once per year.  So much great good.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 01, 2022, 05:53:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IiwcVby.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 05:58:29 PM
Now this is some bad texting

https://twitter.com/WigdorLaw/status/1488612654059069443?t=v2ar91aW8gk23TAH7Ncomw&s=19
Might take Ross down with him.  Granted that guy seems to be Teflon with how many allegations have failed to stick over the years

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1488641191864418314?t=T4y3o9eHVSHwBzt18Akt_A&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 06:05:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/IiwcVby.jpg)
this is terrific. wow lmao.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 06:06:20 PM
Man I need to make a trip to NOLA soon, it's now been 4 or 5 years and we normally get there at least once per year.  So much great good.
amen. one of my all-time favorite cities. love it to death. haven't been since 2015 and I used to go almost every year as well. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 06:15:59 PM
Might take Ross down with him.  Granted that guy seems to be Teflon with how many allegations have failed to stick over the years

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1488641191864418314?t=T4y3o9eHVSHwBzt18Akt_A&s=19
as far as any implication of trying to tank because Stephen Ross may have invested in part of a $17.5 million round of funding - seems incredibly stupid for this guy to even bring this up. It's a complete non-starter. Stephen Ross is worth probably close to $10 billion. Maybe even more. Hard to quantify his wealth- as it's mostly privately held. Put it this way- he's so rich- he's donated $500 million to the University of Michigan. You have to have a FUCKTON of money to donate $500 million to anyone. You have to be obscenely wealthy. A relatively small investment in a gambling company for someone of his stature is virtually meaningless - like it doesn't even track. Makes no sense to me that it's even brought up. The money he's invested in the Dolphins and the money he makes from the Dolphins winning is infinitely greater than the little check (by his standards) he wrote to participate in a round of funding for a gambling startup.

If Flores is alleging that Ross wanted him to tank to get the #1 pick - I'm sure he's not the first owner nor will he be the last. If Miami had tanked and got Joe Burrow instead of Tua - Miami might be in the Super Bowl right now and not the Bengals. He's going to have to prove this allegation in court - that Ross offered him $100k to lose games to get the #1 pick - so good luck. Unless he's got emails or texts showing this - it's impossible to prove.

Flores is coming across like a major league asshole, jilted ex throwing a bunch of shit to the wall seeing if anything sticks - and the billionaire boys club ain't going to forget any time soon. This guy is killing any chance he's ever had at getting another NFL head coaching job again. I can see why the Dolphins fired him.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 06:28:21 PM
You mean convincing UM to take money in exchange for helping him in a tax evasion scheme?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 01, 2022, 06:42:58 PM
I don't think OBJ's time with the Giants was contentious, whatever his preferences.  He routinely seemed to be fine there when interviewed.  Who knows what's going on in his head, but OBJ was always a loud personality.  Nobody ever wondered what was on his mind when he was in college.  He wasn't a problem, but he wasn't a quiet guy who blended in either. 

What's up with Eli Apple?  Dude roasted the Giants and Saints, then insulted the fans, and then went a step further to trash the city of New Orleans and then say the food is horrible.  Now he's trolled the Chiefs players, offering them tickets to the SB.  All I really know about him was watching him with the Saints and the playoff games with the Bengals.  Nobody should be a douche, but when you're not even good enough to earn some passes, you really should try harder to do the bare minimum.  And by "bare minimum" I mean....you know....not insulting and picking fights with fans and insulting their cities. 

Guys who quarrel with their peers within the league or management may have some growing up to do.  When you can't stop yourself from blasting the fans who make your career possible, you have major character flaws.

ETA:  And if you dis NOLA's food, then you've left "douche" and crossed into "dumb" territory. 
Have to take what he says a bit tongue in cheek
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2022, 06:46:40 PM
Where we dine in NOLA was mediocre at best.  We were with a lady who claimed she knew the place and where to eat.  I think they were all tourist spots.  I didn't enjoy the visit at all and don't plan to return ever.  I'm sure I could have had a better experience on my on, but I did not enjoy the place.  My wife had the same thoughts.  She had been before years back before I knew her.  It was my first and only visit.

Every city has good places to eat and plenty of mediocre places (and chains).  It's something of a mystery how to find the former, unless you're in France.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 01, 2022, 06:51:26 PM

Dude, no offense, but every single person you associate with in other cities, just absolutely sucks.  It's uncanny.  You get the worst hosts and worst advice of all time, every time.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 06:54:05 PM
You mean convincing UM to take money in exchange for helping him in a tax evasion scheme?
not really evasion....more like off-setting or lowering his tax burden. legally. not that i'm thrilled with it. but he did donate $500 million to a public university of higher learning. tax evasion schemes to me are more like what Bezos and Musk do - getting 0% interest loans and borrowing against paper assets (stock) for an eternity to fund their lifestyles which means they never have to declare income or pay tax - unless they sell stock - or setting up shell companies overseas and hiding/laundering money in real estate to avoid paying taxes- the kind of shit we saw in the Pandora Papers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 01, 2022, 06:55:55 PM
as far as any implication of trying to tank because Stephen Ross may have invested in part of a $17.5 million round of funding - seems incredibly stupid for this guy to even bring this up. It's a complete non-starter. Stephen Ross is worth probably close to $10 billion. Maybe even more. Hard to quantify his wealth- as it's mostly privately held. Put it this way- he's so rich- he's donated $500 million to the University of Michigan. You have to have a FUCKTON of money to donate $500 million to anyone. You have to be obscenely wealthy. A relatively small investment in a gambling company for someone of his stature is virtually meaningless - like it doesn't even track. Makes no sense to me that it's even brought up. The money he's invested in the Dolphins and the money he makes from the Dolphins winning is infinitely greater than the little check (by his standards) he wrote to participate in a round of funding for a gambling startup.

If Flores is alleging that Ross wanted him to tank to get the #1 pick - I'm sure he's not the first owner nor will he be the last. If Miami had tanked and got Joe Burrow instead of Tua - Miami might be in the Super Bowl right now and not the Bengals. He's going to have to prove this allegation in court - that Ross offered him $100k to lose games to get the #1 pick - so good luck. Unless he's got emails or texts showing this - it's impossible to prove.

Flores is coming across like a major league asshole, jilted ex throwing a bunch of shit to the wall seeing if anything sticks - and the billionaire boys club ain't going to forget any time soon. This guy is killing any chance he's ever had at getting another NFL head coaching job again. I can see why the Dolphins fired him.
I am a thousand percent certain that the NFL and Stephen Ross want no part of the discovery process of this lawsuit. I also don't blame Flores - getting canned after willing a terrible team to a winning record is awful enough, and then to get kicked in the teeth that they already picked their coach before your interview is doubly insulting. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 06:58:06 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.michigandaily.com/government/court-appeals-finds-stephen-ross-associates-overstated-donation-value/
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 01, 2022, 07:36:21 PM
https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1488638088939294720?s=20&t=DII0UVD6WAoC6KqhKkOgEw
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 08:59:14 PM
I am a thousand percent certain that the NFL and Stephen Ross want no part of the discovery process of this lawsuit. I also don't blame Flores - getting canned after willing a terrible team to a winning record is awful enough, and then to get kicked in the teeth that they already picked their coach before your interview is doubly insulting.
if Flores has emails/texts proving he was offered $100k a game to tank so they could get the #1 pick- would love to see it. honestly kind of dumb not to take the $100k/game - make an extra $1 million plus AND get Joe Burrow? Sign me the f***k up for that lol.

He's got a rep as being difficult to work with, and now the dude is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Broncos, and the Dolphins. Apparently he's never heard of not biting the hand that feeds you. He better get a fat settlement or win that lawsuit - because no one in the NFL will probably ever hire him again.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 09:05:15 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.michigandaily.com/government/court-appeals-finds-stephen-ross-associates-overstated-donation-value/
well, shit man. didn't know all this. you just dropped the mic. f***k that guy. man.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 09:19:01 PM
If UM wants to cut ties, I'm willing to let MSU throw an honorary degree his way :72:
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 09:42:40 PM
Rooney rule strikes me as a dumb rule. It’s entire purpose was to pander, buy good PR.

NFL billionaire owners are gonna hire who they damn well please. They didn’t become billionaires by following rules, taking orders, or being told what to do. These are literally all trust fund douches who inherited money or type a personality captain of industry types who are egotistical maniacs.

Flores suing the NFL just going to enhance the rep he has as difficult to work with. He’s still have a job in Miami if he wasn’t at war with the GM and had he bought into Tua as the QB of the future even a little bit. Dude never wanted Tua and he never kept that a secret within the organization.
I just enjoy that it's Belichick who might cause the NFL to lose millions
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:14:15 PM
I just enjoy that it's Belichick who might cause the NFL to lose millions
Belichik has more than a few bones to pick with the NFL and Goodell. Wouldn't surprise me if he sent those texts on purpose.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 10:17:56 PM
You mean convincing UM to take money in exchange for helping him in a tax evasion scheme?
Fill me in got a link
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 02, 2022, 09:08:21 AM
So, it's the Washington Commanders now.

Good name.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2022, 09:10:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fXOwKZR.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 02, 2022, 09:45:07 AM
Belichik has more than a few bones to pick with the NFL and Goodell. Wouldn't surprise me if he sent those texts on purpose.
Not to mention the Giants
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 02, 2022, 09:45:23 AM
So, it's the Washington Commanders now.

Good name.
I think Commies is the preferred name
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on February 02, 2022, 10:45:15 AM
Where we dine in NOLA was mediocre at best.  We were with a lady who claimed she knew the place and where to eat.  I think they were all tourist spots.  I didn't enjoy the visit at all and don't plan to return ever.  I'm sure I could have had a better experience on my on, but I did not enjoy the place.  My wife had the same thoughts.  She had been before years back before I knew her.  It was my first and only visit.

Every city has good places to eat and plenty of mediocre places (and chains).  It's something of a mystery how to find the former, unless you're in France.
Only been to NOLA once,  Was taking a cruise out of the port.  Didn't know it at the time I booked, but it was right in the middle of Mardi Gras.

It took forever to get from the airport to our hotel.  It took 2 hours to get from hotel to a place close to Bourbon St (less than 3 miles). Ate at a restaurant near Bourbon street, the food was fantastic.  Walked over to the street, in one block, I saw a man sliced with a knife, I saw a fist fight and my daughter-in-law was groped by a man.  Got off the street after one block and went back to the hotel.

At the hotel, at 3am I have someone pounding on my door and yelling Jeremy open the door.  It so happened that my step-son is named Jeremy and was in the room across the hall. Go to the door there are 3 police officers with guns drawn.  Turns out they had the wrong room.  Starting pounding on the room next door.  They pounded and yelled at the door for about an hour before the guy in there finally answered came out. All this because the person in the room locked his friends out and kept their stuff in the room.  Why the police has to be involved and why it was necessary to do this at 3am I will never know.  Hotel ended up comping our room. 

Then it took us 2 hours to go the 5 miles to get to the port.

They only thing I like about NOLA was the restaurant, It was the best Jambalaya that I have ever had. Nothing has been close to it.  Can honestly say, I don't think I will ever go to NOLA again. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on February 02, 2022, 10:46:57 AM
if Flores has emails/texts proving he was offered $100k a game to tank so they could get the #1 pick- would love to see it. honestly kind of dumb not to take the $100k/game - make an extra $1 million plus AND get Joe Burrow? Sign me the f***k up for that lol.

He's got a rep as being difficult to work with, and now the dude is suing the NFL, the Giants, the Broncos, and the Dolphins. Apparently he's never heard of not biting the hand that feeds you. He better get a fat settlement or win that lawsuit - because no one in the NFL will probably ever hire him again.
NFL is know for fighting not just giving up.  I don't expect him to win or get a thing. Flores screwed up. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2022, 11:14:48 AM
Only been to NOLA once,  Was taking a cruise out of the port.  Didn't know it at the time I booked, but it was right in the middle of Mardi Gras.

It took forever to get from the airport to our hotel.  It took 2 hours to get from hotel to a place close to Bourbon St (less than 3 miles). Ate at a restaurant near Bourbon street, the food was fantastic.  Walked over to the street, in one block, I saw a man sliced with a knife, I saw a fist fight and my daughter-in-law was groped by a man.  Got off the street after one block and went back to the hotel.

At the hotel, at 3am I have someone pounding on my door and yelling Jeremy open the door.  It so happened that my step-son is named Jeremy and was in the room across the hall. Go to the door there are 3 police officers with guns drawn.  Turns out they had the wrong room.  Starting pounding on the room next door.  They pounded and yelled at the door for about an hour before the guy in there finally answered came out. All this because the person in the room locked his friends out and kept their stuff in the room.  Why the police has to be involved and why it was necessary to do this at 3am I will never know.  Hotel ended up comping our room.

Then it took us 2 hours to go the 5 miles to get to the port.

They only thing I like about NOLA was the restaurant, It was the best Jambalaya that I have ever had. Nothing has been close to it.  Can honestly say, I don't think I will ever go to NOLA again.

I went to Boston for a 2-day event.  I had no idea it was St. Patrick's Day.  It was impossible to get anywhere, everyone was drunk and mean and fighting, and it was a miserable experience.

Boston is terrible and I'll never go back again.


(is what your post sounds like to me.  No offense :) )
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 02, 2022, 11:16:25 AM
If Harbaugh's interview with the Vikings is a formality I don't know where this leaves Michigan after all the goodwill built up over getting over the proverbial hump by finally beating Ohio State and winning the Big Ten.

On the other hand the Vikings will be getting a proven winner who during his time with the 49ers maximally managed the roster and whose risks at QB paid off. And Harbaugh will be getting a Minnesota roster with plenty of talent in an NFC North division that could be up for grabs depending on what happens with Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 11:35:35 AM
Harbaugh will fail in the NFL imo. It's moved EVEN MORE towards a passing league in the nearly 10 years since he's been there - and he just has NO f***king clue how to do that. His big success in San Fran was with Kapernick - who sucked at throwing the football - but was a great runner. And what was his success? Super Bowl runner up. He didn't win a Super Bowl.

Name me a team that has won a Super Bowl with a primarily running QB in the modern era and I'll shut up and listen. You need a pocket passer. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Big Ben, Rodgers, Mahomes - have to be able to throw at an elite level from the pocket to win.

Dude just has no f***king clue when it comes to the pass game - and that's not going to fly in todays NFL.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 02, 2022, 01:13:30 PM
Dude, no offense, but every single person you associate with in other cities, just absolutely sucks.  It's uncanny.  You get the worst hosts and worst advice of all time, every time.

If he couldn't find something delicious to eat in NOLA, he's just not trying.  

I have no sympathy.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2022, 01:14:58 PM
If he couldn't find something delicious to eat in NOLA, he's just not trying. 

I have no sympathy. 
He had the exact same story for his visit to Austin.  I genuinely feel sorry for him, he either has the worst luck, or just knows the worst people.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MikeDeTiger on February 02, 2022, 01:21:01 PM
I guess taste has something to do with it, although it's incredible how many people worldwide love Louisiana food, NOLA in particular.  

I had about a six-month adjustment period when I moved to Austin.  It wasn't that the food was bad, but it was different, and I didn't care for it.  After a while I got used to it, my palate adjusted, and there were so many great places.  I still miss them.  They key was not the food being sub-par, it was my taste buds lacking an appreciation for what I was eating.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2022, 01:21:58 PM
I guess taste has something to do with it, although it's incredible how many people worldwide love Louisiana food, NOLA in particular. 

I had about a six-month adjustment period when I moved to Austin.  It wasn't that the food was bad, but it was different, and I didn't care for it.  After a while I got used to it, my palate adjusted, and there were so many great places.  I still miss them.  They key was not the food being sub-par, it was my taste buds lacking an appreciation for what I was eating. 
Sounds like you, too, were going to the wrong places.

i don't think excellent BBQ or sushi or Vietnamese or fine dining are any sort of an acquired taste, and Austin has all of that in abundance since the late 90s.  There's even been great Italy-Italian food available in Austin since then.  One weak spot for Austin is definitely American-Italian, but even then there are a couple of places in town that my New York/New Jersey Italian neighbors love.

Tex-Mex or Interior Mexican... maybe.  But the really good places just taste good, regardless of what's being served.  For example fajita tacos are ubiquitous around the country and everyone seems to like them, so getting the actual best versions of those should be immediately palatable.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 02, 2022, 01:32:29 PM
I mentioned that my BIL just moved to San Antonio, and now my MIL and her husband have sold their house and just spent a little over a week in San Antonio, and bought the replacement. 

They were absolutely raving about the food. 

Granted, they've spent the last decade and a half or so in rural Oregon, so maybe options were limited there...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 02, 2022, 02:20:35 PM
No accounting for people's tastes. There is an awesome Venezuelan place by my job, but people go there and order the burrito. Which, I mean, it's a burrito. It's fine. But you aren't getting the best the place has to offer.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 05:13:02 PM
If he couldn't find something delicious to eat in NOLA, he's just not trying. 

I have no sympathy. 
this. that place has so many amazing places to eat you have to try to eat somewhere that sucks lol. 

cochon butcher is maybe my favorite place to eat lunch that i've ever been anywhere. that is my jam. would go there every day when i was in new orleans and just wanted to be a total fat ass. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 05:15:46 PM
He had the exact same story for his visit to Austin.  I genuinely feel sorry for him, he either has the worst luck, or just knows the worst people.
I've never even been to Austin and even I know Franklin's is the place to go. Is it as good as they say? Heard wait times can be hours long.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 02, 2022, 05:27:49 PM
I've never even been to Austin and even I know Franklin's is the place to go. Is it as good as they say? Heard wait times can be hours long.
Franklin is great.  It's the best commercial brisket I've ever had.  You can also skip the line by preordering, and picking up from the to-go window, but then of course you need a plan for a nearby place to eat it, because it's always best fresh-sliced.

But there are several other places that are almost as good at brisket, and even better at other meats, where the wait is minimal.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 09:34:31 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1487848082448347139?s=20&t=9kEacOY6MlLwCAeMVw1TdQ
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 09:51:16 PM
https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1488536401826172928?s=20&t=nIN3LslpB1mjVab-ypzXdw
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 09:57:17 PM
https://twitter.com/PFF_Sam/status/1488633881028960258?s=20&t=nIN3LslpB1mjVab-ypzXdw
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 10:13:12 PM
so turns out that comment Brady made on LeBron's HBO show about "you're really sticking with that m**therf**ker" was very likely about Dolphins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick. Ross wanted Brady badly, and had a meeting set up on his yacht to try and seal the deal. Apparently Brian Flores didn't want Brady however.

It does make some sense that Brady might want to play for the Dolphins - as I do know that Brady & Gisele planned on moving to Miami permanently - as right around that time they bought a 5,700 sq ft house in Indian Creek for $17.5 million- which is a super-exclusive island in Miami Beach - and they are in the process now of tearing down the existing house and building a behemoth. He probably also wouldn't mind sticking it to Belichik twice a year and taking the division over.


https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1488647630607601674?s=20&t=nIN3LslpB1mjVab-ypzXdw

https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1488934252452487168?s=20&t=nIN3LslpB1mjVab-ypzXdw
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 03, 2022, 10:16:26 AM
Harbaugh will fail in the NFL imo. It's moved EVEN MORE towards a passing league in the nearly 10 years since he's been there - and he just has NO f***king clue how to do that.

Dude just has no f***king clue when it comes to the pass game - and that's not going to fly in todays NFL.

Good news @MDot21, at least for Harbaugh and maybe the Vikings too? I would try to make sense of why Harbaugh would bother interviewing in Minnesota at all only to immediately announce his return to Ann Arbor if this week’s theme wasn’t so clearly Sham NFL Interviews.

(Sounds like the Vikings will turn their attention to hiring the Rams OC, 36 year old Kevin O'Connell.)

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489031932558069772
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on February 03, 2022, 10:42:44 AM
Someone explain why the match-fixing angle isn't dominating this. Jerry Richardson was forced to sell the Panthers for a lot less than what Flores is claiming.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on February 03, 2022, 11:03:15 AM
I went to Boston for a 2-day event.  I had no idea it was St. Patrick's Day.  It was impossible to get anywhere, everyone was drunk and mean and fighting, and it was a miserable experience.

Boston is terrible and I'll never go back again.


(is what your post sounds like to me.  No offense :) )
None taken, that is exactly what it is.  Cities get only one chance with me :)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
Someone explain why the match-fixing angle isn't dominating this. Jerry Richardson was forced to sell the Panthers for a lot less than what Flores is claiming.
I don't think he was forced to sell, I think he sold because he was old as dirt, probably wanted to make all the drama go away. And he cashed out to the tune of $2.3 billion - which is a far cry from what he paid to get an expansion team - I think the cost to get the team back in the 90s was like $150 million. Even accounting for inflation that's a staggering gain in a very short timespan. Hard to feel bad for the guy. I believe that he was accused of sexual assault, sexual harassment, and making racist comments to a scout - which to me - probably worse than saying pssssst coach tank so we can get the #1 pick. Colts openly "Suck for Luck" if you ask me. No one will convince me they weren't tanking games to get Luck.

If the Dolphins had actually tanked for Burrow - they might be in the Super Bowl right now and not the Bengals.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 06, 2022, 01:31:27 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p526x296/273394922_10228201316803910_6292857759481677917_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=dm0uSy3CIxIAX8rboJd&tn=_MnT8OkIfzNoswba&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AT9cmSjZJvjK49BfmD_J6NfLK2P7MqpaktwXuDqn--bdzg&oe=6204C4C9)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 06, 2022, 02:18:01 PM
Ben looks like something the Amish would hook up to their plows
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 06, 2022, 02:23:36 PM
probably smells like it to
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 07, 2022, 09:25:33 AM
Officially Super Bowl week

I'm predicting one of those impossibly boring, closer-that-the-score-shows 27-16 games. Rams hold the critical mass of advantages over the Bengals. With much of LA’s roster and coaching staff having played for the Rams in a Super Bowl three seasons ago, they’re less likely to blink under the stage lights. Much less in their home stadium. The Bengals are likely “taking it all in” and content to be in the Super Bowl at all. And on the field it’s pretty clear the Rams have the better roster, position by position.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 07, 2022, 09:44:44 AM
Officially Super Bowl week

I'm predicting one of those impossibly boring, closer-that-the-score-shows 27-16 games. Rams hold the critical mass of advantages over the Bengals. With much of LA’s roster and coaching staff having played for the Rams in a Super Bowl three seasons ago, they’re less likely to blink under the stage lights. Much less in their home stadium. The Bengals are likely “taking it all in” and content to be in the Super Bowl at all. And on the field it’s pretty clear the Rams have the better roster, position by position.
maybe - maybe not - after the hitting starts it falls back to who can do what in real time.IMO Cinci went thru the tougher play off opponents.I don't think LA presents the same HFA as say KC specially in a mixture like the the SB. And as good as Stafford is I'd still say Mahomes presents more problems to a defense.Hopefully this contest falls in line with the excitement displayed in the rest of this post season
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 07, 2022, 06:23:43 PM
Texans reportedly hiring Lovie Smith. Not sure a retread is a good idea...but whatever. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Abba on February 07, 2022, 08:13:50 PM
[img width=273.429 height=526 alt=May be an image of 3 people and text that says 'TOM BRADY, BEN ROETHISBERGER & AARON RODGERS ALL WALK INTO A BAR.... JUJONIEERS TAMPAGAY CHERS B TO WATCH THE BENGALS!']https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p526x296/273394922_10228201316803910_6292857759481677917_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=dm0uSy3CIxIAX8rboJd&tn=_MnT8OkIfzNoswba&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=00_AT9cmSjZJvjK49BfmD_J6NfLK2P7MqpaktwXuDqn--bdzg&oe=6204C4C9[/img]

Is Brady just watching that burger for someone else?  Or has he changed his diet since retiring?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 08, 2022, 07:24:27 PM
Announcement 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 08, 2022, 09:16:35 PM
Damn, dunking on the Lions.  Way to avoid the low hanging fruit.  Tht must have been created by an SNL writer
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 08, 2022, 09:43:18 PM
Damn, dunking on the Lions.  Way to avoid the low hanging fruit.  Tht must have been created by an SNL writer
I saw it a couple days ago and it referenced the Dallas Cowboys stadium.  Internet memes, are they ever NOT hilarious? :)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 09, 2022, 09:55:00 AM
Ouch!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/feb/08/los-angeles-chargers-popularity-san-diego-nfl-football
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 09, 2022, 10:06:42 AM
Tough to argue with a lot of that.

I always had a soft spot for the San Diego Chargers.  Now they're not even an afterthought in LA.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 09, 2022, 10:14:10 AM
Gotta love SD giving the finger to the NFL sure be nice if the mayors in cities would wake up and see how they are getting played.The millions spent on disgusting slimy ass hole owners could actually go into the infrastructure and our country would be a hell of a lot better off
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 09, 2022, 11:38:23 AM
The Chargers old stadium is being torn down as we speak. Having moved to San Diego recently, I've come across a number of former Chargers season ticket holders who, since the Chargers moved up the road, have completely stopped following not only the Chargers but the NFL. And unlike Browns fans who've remained vocally bitter against Art Modell, Spanos doesn't register as anything worth talking about. They're past the point of caring. My one buddy has moved on from sports altogether and taken up a second life running year round Dungeons and Dragons tournaments on Sundays. He commented to me the other day, after watching a quarter of the Bengals-Chiefs game, how much leaner Offensive Lineman look these days.

San Diego is much more of a Padres and Lakers town now.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2022, 07:36:43 AM
Where is SDSU going to play?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 11, 2022, 07:38:03 AM
TJ puttin' some Wattage in the cottage.


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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 11, 2022, 08:47:48 AM
Gotta love SD giving the finger to the NFL sure be nice if the mayors in cities would wake up and see how they are getting played.The millions spent on disgusting slimy ass hole owners could actually go into the infrastructure and our country would be a hell of a lot better off
"We" prefer shiny new stadia to infrastructure.  I was astonished that the Braves got a new one, really, the "old" one was actually quite nice, and centrally located.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 12, 2022, 08:02:02 AM
Where is SDSU going to play?

SDSU will play their games in a new stadium built atop the location where Qualcomm was torn down. SnapDragon Stadium will seat 35K, to open this Sept Vs Arizona. Without a stadium all last year, SDSU played their home games at an MLS Stadium, home to the LA Galaxy, in Carson CA. The same soccer complex where the Chargers spent their few years adrift between San Diego and SoFi.


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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 12, 2022, 08:15:24 AM
Looks nice. Is that thing expandable? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 12, 2022, 08:58:24 AM
That will be a much better home field advantage than playing in a 70,000 seat stadium, meant to handle baseball
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 12, 2022, 11:38:44 PM
They're the Aztecs!
Where's the pyramid in the end zone?
They could do a Clemson-esque pre-game of coming down the steps, after be-heading the opponent's mascot and letting it roll down the steps ahead of them.

C'mon, man!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 02:44:29 PM
Until they are forced to change their mascot in a couple years
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 13, 2022, 02:46:57 PM
This being the first year in, ahem, quite some time where I am invested in the actual game, I thought I would enjoy the pregame coverage. Not so much.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 13, 2022, 02:59:39 PM
This being the first year in, ahem, quite some time where I am invested in the actual game, I thought I would enjoy the pregame coverage. Not so much.
It is not watchable.

4-6-8 guys on TV all yelling at me at the same time is not fun.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 13, 2022, 03:27:15 PM
more fun than watching the Huskers play hoops
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 13, 2022, 07:51:27 PM
Shoot Vernon Hargreaves into the sun
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 13, 2022, 08:36:19 PM
Wow. OPI wasn't called when it involved the receiver making a blatant facemask... 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 13, 2022, 08:37:09 PM
I don't know why they scheduled a football game around a Snoop Dogg concert though...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 13, 2022, 08:38:52 PM
I got out of the halftime show by opting for a second shower that I didn't even need. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 13, 2022, 08:39:29 PM
Wow. OPI wasn't called when it involved the receiver making a blatant facemask...
Ramsey got away with blatant pass interference earlier...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 13, 2022, 08:40:34 PM
Refs have been consistent.  Letting them play.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 13, 2022, 09:09:51 PM
I got out of the halftime show by opting for a second shower that I didn't even need.
It was a good show for people who came of age in the late 90s lol...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 09:24:26 PM
Refs have been consistent.  Letting them play. 
I mean, you grab a guy by the facemask and throw him down, even the most old school of us.  If a DB did that, he would have been tossed
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It was a good show for people who came of age in the late 90s lol...
I think it was perhaps the best halftime show ever
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 13, 2022, 09:50:16 PM
The refs with two phantom calls on the Bengals here
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 13, 2022, 10:00:23 PM
What a sham
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 13, 2022, 10:04:19 PM
I think it was perhaps the best halftime show ever
I liked most of it.  Blyge, Snoop.  But Lemar and Eminem sucked. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 13, 2022, 10:05:23 PM
The refs with two phantom calls on the Bengals here
Have to agree.   They let a lot of major stuff go by both sides all night.  Then they call that?  Weird. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 10:13:36 PM
Alright, now Lions management knows what they need to surround a QB with.  Let's go!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 13, 2022, 10:15:14 PM
Alright, now Lions management knows what they need to surround a QB with.  Let's go!
😂😂.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 10:17:51 PM
https://twitter.com/merryjonze/status/1493037136295211009?t=WpugzT_5sXsxH9cauQJpWQ&s=19
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 13, 2022, 10:45:41 PM
I liked most of it.  Blyge, Snoop.  But Lemar and Eminem sucked.
I know nothing about Kendrick, but he can sure spit it...

Eminem was so-so. Thought Mary could have stuck to her first song.

I did like how it was all kinda a tribute to Dre. He was responsible for so much of that genre. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 10:48:55 PM
I know nothing about Kendrick, but he can sure spit it...

Eminem was so-so. Thought Mary could have stuck to her first song.

I did like how it was all kinda a tribute to Dre. He was responsible for so much of that genre.
All of this
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MarqHusker on February 13, 2022, 11:03:44 PM
I think it was perhaps the best halftime show ever
Eh.  It was a sheepish nod to a wonderful era.  I do know it was viewed as a total dud by the 10-16yr old contingency at the party i was at.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 13, 2022, 11:07:50 PM
I think it was perhaps the best halftime show ever
For me, Prince was the best halftime show ever, by a pretty hefty margin.

This one was fine, I was into NWA when it first came out so it was good to see Dr. Dre.  The others were all a little newer and got big after I'd mostly left rap and hip hop behind.

The individual sets were pretty good, but I wanted a lot more out of the team-up at the end.  I felt like it all sort of built up and then there was no payoff.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 11:11:06 PM
For me, Prince was the best halftime show ever, by a pretty hefty margin.

This one was fine, I was into NWA when it first came out so it was good to see Dr. Dre.  The others were all a little newer and got big after I'd mostly left rap and hip hop behind.

The individual sets were pretty good, but I wanted a lot more out of the team-up at the end.  I felt like it all sort of built up and then there was no payoff.

I know a lot of people feel that way. Prince might be the best example of an artist I completely appreciate, without actually liking.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 13, 2022, 11:20:09 PM
I didn't know the Mary Blige stuff but I like how she used the keyboard part from Tears for Fears song "Head Over Heels" as the underlying melody for one of them.  I was super-proud of my 14 yo daughter who was pretty indifferent to the whole set, until she heard that and yelled out "Tears for Fears!" just before I could. :)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on February 13, 2022, 11:29:12 PM
Any discussion of Super Bowl halftime shows begins with U2 and ends with Prince, with a large gap back to everyone else. Tonight's show was firmly in the next group back, though. 

As for 'ol Charlie Kirk, the 90s called. They want their pearl clutching back. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 13, 2022, 11:36:21 PM
utee would you turn the movie thread back on please

I myself said 3 hail marys 

can we come out of our room now
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 14, 2022, 12:10:08 AM
Eh.  It was a sheepish nod to a wonderful era.  I do know it was viewed as a total dud by the 10-16yr old contingency at the party i was at. 
Yeah, the 10-16 demo wouldn't appreciate it. That is the only reason Kendrick Lamar was there... Because all the others are "old people rap" at this point...

But that's SOP for a Super Bowl halftime show... Get the artists who my demo likes, and then sprinkle in artists relevant to the kids...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: TyphonInc on February 14, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
Refs have been consistent.  Letting them play. 

Till LA's final drive....
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 08:49:04 AM
I half watched the game, for the first time in ages, it was a decent game, I was happy to see Stafford win.  I thought if Cincy won I could claim a trifecta, sorta.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2022, 08:52:00 AM
good game, entertaining

was rooting for Zac and the Bungles, but Stafford and Donald got their rings with a little help from the zebras
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 08:56:31 AM
I see criticism of the refs but mistakes do happen.  They missed a face mask call earlier on the Cincy TD.

One person on FB has announced he won't recognize the outcome, which amused me.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2022, 09:00:38 AM
I'm certainly not blaming the refs for the outcome

just seemed to call the last drive a bit differently than earlier

and of course I was rooting for the Bungles

it's football, refs gonna make calls
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 14, 2022, 09:57:47 AM
Yeah, the end of that last drive weren't bad or wrong calls... Just seemed they started calling things tighter than they had the rest of the game.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 10:09:24 AM
Yeah, the end of that last drive weren't bad or wrong calls... Just seemed they started calling things tighter than they had the rest of the game.
I feel like at least one of those was a make-up call for the blatant uncalled OPI-facemask that resulted in a Cincy touchdown.  I don't agree with the idea of make-up calls, but the refs are only human and all it took was one brief glance at the replay screens to understand that was a bad and potentially game-deciding missed call.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 14, 2022, 10:31:07 AM
Agree.  And let’s remember- the Bengals still had a legit opportunity. 

They moved the ball to midfield and got stopped on a 3rd and 1 and then a 4th and 1.   You have to tip your hat to the Rams defense.   They stepped up when the game was truly in the balance.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 10:41:32 AM
Very happy for Matt Stafford. Class act guy, hell of a leader, teammate and QB. He came up in the clutch for them like he did so many times for Detroit. Maybe he’ll finally get the respect he deserves around the league now. And now the question of what would Stafford be like on a real team is finally answered. He’d be a Super Bowl a champion.

Lions ownership can EAD. I won’t watch them until they sell the team. Hopefully Bezos buys them. There were rumors a couple years ago he was close to a deal for them.

As for the Bengals- that team will be back when they get Burrow an OL. Burrow is a hell of a young player- but he is legit going to die if the Bengals don’t draft and sign every OL under the sun to fix that craptastic shit-sandwich of an OL.

As for the half-time show- was pretty cool nod to Dr. Dre but I thought it kinda sucked. Mary J Blige looked and sounded terrible. She’s sure as hell packed on the pounds- not that she was ever thin- and she sounded like shit. Wayyyyy too much screaming and yelling and not enough actual singing. So over the top and dramatic it was ugly to watch. Eminem was just bad. Idk what happened to that guy- he used to be amazing- he is literally terrible now. Even doing his old songs he sounds like shit. This new sober politically charged lesbian with a beard looking Eminem with a weird voice and flow-  ew. Give me the old white trash druggy who would spit rapid word fire and say the most heinous offensive hilarious shit back please. 50 Cent was barely in it- would’ve liked to see more of him. By far the best part of the show was Kendrick Lamar who should’ve been given way more time. Like 50, he was like a bit part of the show.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 14, 2022, 10:42:58 AM

One person on FB has announced he won't recognize the outcome, which amused me.

Facebook is even more amusing when half of its users announce the "won't recognize" election outcomes they don't like.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 10:43:52 AM
The Rams really couldn't run the ball at all could they?  Not the usual recipe for a win.

Burrow is a fabulous QB, he had the best college year I've ever seen and I'm glad he's working out at the next level.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 10:46:30 AM
The Rams really couldn't run the ball at all could they?  Not the usual recipe for a win.

Burrow is a fabulous QB, he had the best college year I've ever seen and I'm glad he's working out at the next level.
Bengals D stuffed the run. It was impressive to see. 

Burrow isn’t just working out. He’s got superstar factor. He could be the face of the league for the next 10 years with Brady exiting stage left and Rodgers probably on his last year or two. Bengals have to get him a damn OL or he’s just not going to make it. I’ve never seen a team get to the Super Bowl with their QB taking such a beating. Burrow is a tough SOB but he’s going to get broken in half if he keeps getting hit like this.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 10:57:02 AM
Yup, he might be as exceptional in the NFL as he was in college, which would be incredible, worth seeing.

And I don't watch the NFL, I'd probably start, some.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:08:06 AM
Yup, he might be as exceptional in the NFL as he was in college, which would be incredible, worth seeing.

And I don't watch the NFL, I'd probably start, some.
I pretty much just watch the nfl playoffs and during the season if there’s a big time matchup like Brady vs Peyton or Brady vs Rodgers - definitely watch that. I gave up watching the Lions regularly so I just pretty much watched most Brady games during the regular season and then of course the playoffs. NFL still has by far the best post-season of any sport imo. Stakes are so high, winner takes all, loser goes home- makes for some crazy dramatic moments.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 11:09:33 AM
Like anything else with a relatively long and often meaningless regular season, I watch the NFL when it gets to the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 14, 2022, 11:13:38 AM
Yeah, the end of that last drive weren't bad or wrong calls... Just seemed they started calling things tighter than they had the rest of the game.
Disagree with that. Two of the calls were bad and wrong, which is doubly annoying after they let stuff go for most of the game. And the one they got right they literally didn't call on Ramsey earlier in the game, which kept the Bengals out of the end zone. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:15:46 AM
Like anything else with a relatively long and often meaningless regular season, I watch the NFL when it gets to the playoffs.
16, well now 17 games isn't that long compared to the other sports.

MLB, NHL, and NBA are nuts. 162 games in MLB and 82 in NBA and NHL. WTF? And then the playoffs are best of 7 series. Gtfo with that bullshit.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on February 14, 2022, 11:16:30 AM
The defensive holding that started the penalty parade was absolutely correct. Two hand shove by a defender not playing the ball. 

Also, just about all of the best QBs are in the AFC. Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Burrow, Mac Jones with an excellent situation for a rookie, Lamar Jackson.

The QB situation in the NFC is dreadful. Rodgers, Stafford if he doesn't retire, maybe Dak, and 11 rotten tomato cans. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:17:42 AM
Disagree with that. Two of the calls were bad and wrong, which is doubly annoying after they let stuff go for most of the game. And the one they got right they literally didn't call on Ramsey earlier in the game, which kept the Bengals out of the end zone.
well one of the TD's that Bengals got was a seriously flagrant OPI that the refs missed. Hard to blame the refs when the Bengals OL got utterly destroyed in the 2nd half. Burrow is literally going to die if that shit-sandwich of an OL isn't fixed ASAP. Dude got sacked 71 times this year including playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:20:24 AM
The defensive holding that started the penalty parade was absolutely correct. Two hand shove by a defender not playing the ball.

Also, just about all of the best QBs are in the AFC. Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Burrow, Mac Jones with an excellent situation for a rookie, Lamar Jackson.

The QB situation in the NFC is dreadful. Rodgers, Stafford if he doesn't retire, maybe Dak, and 11 rotten tomato cans.
shoot that's a great point. NFC has Russell Wilson- he's better than Dak. Basically just Rodgers, Stafford, and Wilson. Rodgers might retire and Wilson is stuck on a pretty bad team. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MaximumSam on February 14, 2022, 11:20:43 AM
well one of the TD's that Bengals got was a seriously flagrant OPI that the refs missed. Hard to blame the refs when the Bengals OL got utterly destroyed in the 2nd half. Burrow is literally going to die if that shit-sandwich of an OL isn't fixed ASAP. Dude got sacked 71 times this year including playoffs.
It's not hard to blame the refs when they screw something up. Everyone went on and on about the missed facemask, which the refs didn't call because they didn't see it. But when they call two things that didn't happen, suddenly it's a tough job. Whatever, as a Bengals fan I've seen them lose in every way imaginable. It would have been nice to not have the game gifted away.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 11:22:45 AM
About every close game has close calls that could have altered the outcome.

I imagine they could call offensive holding on nearly every play.   They call it when the arms get extended.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: GopherRock on February 14, 2022, 11:37:08 AM
shoot that's a great point. NFC has Russell Wilson- he's better than Dak. Basically just Rodgers, Stafford, and Wilson. Rodgers might retire and Wilson is stuck on a pretty bad team.
Russell Wilson has played himself into one of the 11 tomato cans. When the Packers trade Rodgers, he needs to demand a trade to the Niners. That might get them over the hump.

The AFC of the 20s is going to be like that of the 70s: one in which John Madden can go 103-30 and only get to (but win) 1 Super Bowl. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:41:28 AM
It's not hard to blame the refs when they screw something up. Everyone went on and on about the missed facemask, which the refs didn't call because they didn't see it. But when they call two things that didn't happen, suddenly it's a tough job. Whatever, as a Bengals fan I've seen them lose in every way imaginable. It would have been nice to not have the game gifted away.
hear what you're saying, but I'm typically against blaming the refs. OL has been a major issue for the Bengals for last two years with Burrow. He practically got killed last year because of the shitty OL, which is why he missed a chunk of the season with the ACL. They didn't fix the OL the past off-season, and it reared it's ugly head in the most important game of the year. That OL got killed 2nd half and Burrow took an ass-whooping. 

Bengals win that game if they have a real-life OL and Burrow has time in the 2nd half imo. They need to go all-in on an OL and they'll be right back in the Super Bowl and Burrow will win them the game. Brady, Peyton, Rodgers - you name it- none of them won Super Bowls when their OL got rag-dolled. Maybe the best team ever- and definitely Brady's greatest team ever- the '07 Patriots lost the Super Bowl because Brady was getting his ass kicked by the Giants DL. Pats OL got destroyed that game. No QB can win when he's in the dirt most of the game and taking kill shot after kill shot.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 11:52:11 AM
16, well now 17 games isn't that long compared to the other sports.

MLB, NHL, and NBA are nuts. 162 games in MLB and 82 in NBA and NHL. WTF? And then the playoffs are best of 7 series. Gtfo with that bullshit.
17 games = 4+ months on the calendar which is plenty long enough to lose interest, when so many of them are meaningless.

So like other sports with largely meaningless regular seasons, I don't really tune in until the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 11:57:24 AM
17 games = 4+ months on the calendar which is plenty long enough to lose interest, when so many of them are meaningless.

So like other sports with largely meaningless regular seasons, I don't really tune in until the playoffs.
hear what you're saying and I mostly agree. I'll watch maybe 8-9-10 games of an NFL team. Or at least I used to. 

Not watching 50 NBA games or 100 MLB games. F that. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: TyphonInc on February 14, 2022, 12:01:28 PM
Disagree with that. Two of the calls were bad and wrong, which is doubly annoying after they let stuff go for most of the game. And the one they got right they literally didn't call on Ramsey earlier in the game, which kept the Bengals out of the end zone.

This. The two separate games, the first 58 minutes and then the last last two minutes. (sometimes longer if the one team is down by more than a score.) I've noticed refs at both levels call the game differently in the last 2 minutes. 

With 1:25 left and the Bengals with the ball, my wife proclaimed the game was over. I replied, "No way, they have 3 timeouts and the Refs are going to gift them 30 if not 45 yards." Nope refs swallowed their whistles again. On the last 2 plays I saw 3 wide receivers getting held, but no calls. 

The refs missed numerous calls. Blatant, significant arms extended holding calls, pass interference calls, that ridiculous facemask no call etc. They only called 2 penalties (and one was for a non-uniformed player running onto the field) in the first 58 minutes, then make 5 calls in 35 seconds. If leaves a bad taste, right or wrong. But when they change how they are calling the game and do it wrong, if feels rigged. There was this narrative that the refs were going to let them play. Then with the game on the line, they called an offense initiated patty cake call. They called a phantom roughing penalty?!? It's frustrating.

After that rant, I do think the better team won. Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. And when Cincinnati did grab the momentum in the the 3rd quarter, they couldn't get more than a 7 point lead leaving the door open for what felt like the refs to swing the outcome to the Billion Dollar Home team. Overall, it was good enough game for me to watch it till the end, which I guess is what everybody wants. I hope Cincinnati can radically improve their O-Line. Burrow is special. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 12:11:14 PM
 Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. 
Why are you congratulating the Cardinals?  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 14, 2022, 02:55:09 PM
Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. 


You mean the team that St. Louis first stole away from Los Angeles? 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 02:57:25 PM

You mean the team that St. Louis first stole away from Los Angeles?
yeah, but they sucked ass in LA for most of the 80s and 90s. At least in St. Louis they became a mini-dynasty and the most exciting offense to watch maybe ever with Marshall Faulk, Issac Bruce, Torry Holt, and Az-Hakim. Talk about serious speed and explosiveness at the skill positions.

And actually - it was LA who stole them initially. From Cleveland.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Riffraft on February 14, 2022, 03:21:45 PM
I feel like at least one of those was a make-up call for the blatant uncalled OPI-facemask that resulted in a Cincy touchdown.  I don't agree with the idea of make-up calls, but the refs are only human and all it took was one brief glance at the replay screens to understand that was a bad and potentially game-deciding missed call.

maybe I am naïve but in all my years of officiating, I have never made a make-up call nor have have I known as single other official who have done it.

You make a bad call and you move on and do your best not to have it happen again. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 03:24:28 PM
maybe I am naïve but in all my years of officiating, I have never made a make-up call nor have have I known as single other official who have done it.

You make a bad call and you move on and do your best not to have it happen again.
I see what look like make-up calls fairly frequently, several times per season at various levels.

Perhaps they're not.

But perhaps they are.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 14, 2022, 03:29:43 PM
The Cardinals were stolen from Chicago (actually, Halas ran them out of town) when they played in Comiskey Park.

They were in St. Louis, and now Arizona.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 03:34:12 PM
The Cardinals were stolen from Chicago (actually, Halas ran them out of town) when they played in Comiskey Park.

They were in St. Louis, and now Arizona.
Yeah it's not really "stealing" if they leave willingly because nobody gives a crap about them and they're not making any money.  They were failing at trying to compete with the Bears, and so moved to a place they thought they could become profitable.

I'm really just making fun of the entire notion of "stealing" a team from one geography to another.  Those owners don't give a rat's ass about the fans or people within any specific geography, they only care about the money.  This includes fans paying for tickets and merchandise, cities paying for stadiums, and all the rest.


Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 14, 2022, 03:36:09 PM
What was the back story behind the Oilers moving to Tennessee?
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 03:38:25 PM
What was the back story behind the Oilers moving to Tennessee?
Houston didn't agree to build owner Bud Adams a new stadium on their own dime.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 04:46:40 PM
Houston didn't agree to build owner Bud Adams a new stadium on their own dime.
isn't that the backstory on every franchise moving? One city tells the rich owner- pay for your own shiny new stadium you rich prick, you're rich as f**k. Rich owner cries and moans- then finds another city that is stupid and desperate enough for an NFL franchise, and that new city says...psssst rich guy owner - we'll give you all sorts of tax breaks and build your shiny new stadium for you if you move here.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 14, 2022, 04:52:56 PM
isn't that the backstory on every franchise moving? One city tells the rich owner- pay for your own shiny new stadium you rich prick, you're rich as f**k. Rich owner cries and moans- then finds another city that is stupid and desperate enough for an NFL franchise, and that new city says...psssst rich guy owner - we'll give you all sorts of tax breaks and build your shiny new stadium for you if you move here.
Yup, it's a pretty common tale.

Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 04:55:12 PM
MB stadium here was partially funded by the Falcons, and some of the rest from a hotel tax.  I don't know how much the city put in, maybe nothing.

Financing in Place for Mercedes-Benz Stadium - Football Stadium Digest (https://footballstadiumdigest.com/2016/08/financing-in-place-for-mercedes-benz-stadium/)Financing in Place for Mercedes-Benz Stadium - Football Stadium Digest (https://footballstadiumdigest.com/2016/08/financing-in-place-for-mercedes-benz-stadium/)
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 05:35:42 PM
I was not a fan of the halftime show

To me Hip Hop is what you do trying to get to the bathroom
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 05:40:02 PM
Joe Burrow was sacked 19 times this post-season. That's got to be a record.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 05:44:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uehs_Uzo4Cs

have yet to watch this, looks great. ESPN just did a 30 for 30 with Tom Brady and Charles Woodson on the infamous Tuck Rule game. That call helped launch a dynasty and one of the most legendary playing careers in all of sports. Crazy that Woodson and Brady both came into Michigan as part of the same recruiting class. Both went on to have legendary pro careers and 1st ballot HOF'ers.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 05:44:22 PM
David Carr has been sacked the most by a quarterback in a season, with 76 sacks in his rookie season in 2002.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 05:46:16 PM
David Carr has been sacked the most by a quarterback in a season, with 76 sacks in his rookie season in 2002.
I'm talking strictly post-season. I think Carr has most in a single season- but Texans were so bad they never made the post-season. That's a hell of a beating though- 76 sacks in 16 games. Holy shit. 

Burrow had 71 this year including post-season. Which I believe is like 3rd most sacks taken all-time in terms of a single reg season + post-season. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 14, 2022, 06:09:00 PM
I was not a fan of the halftime show

To me Hip Hop is what you do trying to get to the bathroom
Oh, the way Glenn Miller played... Songs that made the Hit Parade...

...Those were the days!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 14, 2022, 08:09:09 PM
I was not a fan of the halftime show

Wow.
I'm stunned.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 08:11:00 PM
Oh, the way Glenn Miller played... Songs that made the Hit Parade...

...Those were the days!
get off my lawn you little shit
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 14, 2022, 08:11:52 PM
So like other sports with largely meaningless regular seasons, I don't really tune in until the playoffs.
Let's expand the CFP!!!!  Let's eliminate big regular-season games altogether!
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on February 14, 2022, 08:19:31 PM
I was not a fan of the halftime show

To me Hip Hop is what you do trying to get to the bathroom
I will not argue against this. I have to respect someone who all-but-announces to the world that he has some nice hard caramels for when his grandkids come over and he doesn't care who knows. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 14, 2022, 08:23:49 PM
Yeah Longhorn.    How dare you have your own taste in music, you horrible person. 

You deserve to have these thought police all over you !  Your not conforming!!!

Assholes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: bayareabadger on February 14, 2022, 08:29:25 PM
Yeah Longhorn.    How dare you have your own taste in music, you horrible person. 

You deserve to have these thought police all over you !  Your not conforming!!!

Assholes.
Out or respect, I will censor my extremely, extremely lame jokes.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 14, 2022, 08:32:49 PM
Out or respect, I will censor my extremely, extremely lame jokes.
Wasn’t referring to your joke- I laughed at that.  
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 08:56:33 PM
Yeah Longhorn.    How dare you have your own taste in music, you horrible person. 

You deserve to have these thought police all over you !  Your not conforming!!!

Assholes.
actually I have a very wide range of music I like

just dont like hip hop cause I really dont think it takes much talent to do it

you dont have to be able to sing cause you just speak the words

if youre quick at putting sentences together that rhyme and you have a radical subject youre there

I dont condemn those that do its just not my cup of tea
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
Wow.
I'm stunned.
did you like it?

I thought it kinda sucked. I'm a huge fan of Dr Dre, early 90s' Snoop, and late 90's, early & mid 2000's Eminem- but even I thought it sucked.

Kendrick Lamar was the only great thing about that show if you ask me. But he's also literally the only one of any of them that is still smack dab in his prime as an artist/performer.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 14, 2022, 09:26:59 PM
actually I have a very wide range of music I like

just dont like hip hop cause I really dont think it takes much talent to do it

you dont have to be able to sing cause you just speak the words

if youre quick at putting sentences together that rhyme and you have a radical subject youre there

I dont condemn those that do its just not my cup of tea
Well you certainly shouldn’t need to defend the music that you do or don’t like.   That’s a very personal thing and we all don’t like the same things. It’s just sad that there are those here who will grab onto that to try to make you feel inferior. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 09:46:18 PM
Well you certainly shouldn’t need to defend the music that you do or don’t like.  That’s a very personal thing and we all don’t like the same things. It’s just sad that there are those here who will grab onto that to try to make you feel inferior.
As you can probably tell I reached my dont give a shit age long ago but thanks for your comments
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 14, 2022, 09:51:06 PM
...and everyone jumps to the conclusion that longhorn is being hated on for his musical preferences.....jesus christ.



The critique was about how obvious it was that he wasn't into that halftime show, not that liking hip-hop was 'correct.' 

It was about his post being 'Captain Obvious,' not that anything was inferior.  It was like him posting that he's currently breathing or typing.  Duh.  

Damn, guys.  Get a grip.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 09:52:07 PM
Well you certainly shouldn’t need to defend the music that you do or don’t like.  That’s a very personal thing and we all don’t like the same things. It’s just sad that there are those here who will grab onto that to try to make you feel inferior.
or....racist! i have seen many idiots imply that if you don't like hip hop, well....then you might be racist. i hate country music with a passion. does that make me a racist?

I love rap music, but there is no doubt that it is by far the most graphic, violent, heinous, offensive, misogynistic, and flat out homophobic form of music there is. I can see why a lot of people do not like it. I mean....has the NFL actually ever listened to a Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, or Eminem record? Lol.

Actual Eminem lyrics.....

"My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge
That'll stab you in the head, whether you're a fag or lez
Or a homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest
Pants or dress, hate fags? The answer's yes
Homophobic? Nah, you're just heterophobic
Starin' at my jeans, watchin' my genitals bulgin' (Ooh!)
That's my motherfuckin' balls, you'd better let go of 'em
They belong in my scrotum, you'll never get hold of 'em!
"Hey, it's me, Versace! Whoops, somebody shot me!
And I was just checkin' the mail, get it? Checkin' the male?"

BTW...HUGE fan of this era Eminem. He is f**king terrible now that he's completely sober, grown a beard, lost like 20 pounds and looks like a skinny lesbian, changed his entire rhyme scheme/rap voice/ and flow, and gone woke. He is SO bad now, it's just cringey to watch.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 14, 2022, 09:57:51 PM
actually I have a very wide range of music I like

just dont like hip hop cause I really dont think it takes much talent to do it

I guess songwriters grow on trees.  
In defending against something you weren't being criticized about, you made a dummy.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 10:03:47 PM
I guess songwriters grow on trees. 
In defending against something you weren't being criticized about, you made a dummy.
yeah that was just a stupid take. 

listen to early 2000s Eminem for 20 mins where he was spitting words at rapid fire and making every single damn word rhyme together and having it make sense and tell a story. that takes serious talent and skill. 

The song that Nas famously said to Jay-Z that "Eminem murdered you on your own shit".....

https://youtu.be/a7YTB985oMA?t=77
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: longhorn320 on February 14, 2022, 10:14:48 PM
hes ok but Id much rath listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLlL-NVUfk
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2022, 10:17:56 PM
spitting words at rapid fire can be cornsidered a talent

some older folks just don't appreciate the effort or think of it as music

yes, there's a message there

punk groups had a message, the Bangles had a message,

it's personal preference - doesn't mean anyone is a racist or boorish
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 14, 2022, 10:19:32 PM
hes ok but Id much rath listen to this


so would I but I prefer Robert's version
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 15, 2022, 12:23:41 AM
just read that Dr. Dre put up $7 million of his own money to put the half-time show on. He's purported to be worth over $800 million- and this is after he gave his ex-wife $100 million in a divorce settlement.

Whatever he's actually worth- he made a shitload of money when he and his partners sold Beats Electronics to Apple in 2014 for $3.2 billion in a cash + stock deal. I still think it's beyond hilarious that Apple had nearly $300 billion in cash and has probably the most valuable stock on the entire stock market- meaning they could acquire virtually almost any company in the entire world- and the largest acquisition that Apple has made under Tim Cook was to buy an incredibly over-priced shitty headphone brand that they overpaid for. Tim Cook as Steve Jobs rightfully pointed out- "is not a product person."

Apple isn't innovating jack anymore and Tim Cook lacks vision. Apple could've scooped up Netflix and Tesla with ease back in 2014 and still had close to two hundred billion in cash left over. Instead they bought a f**king shitty headphone brand for $3.2 billion. Apple should've snatched up Netflix and Tesla in 2014, then fired Tim Cook and made Elon Musk the CEO of the company.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 08:14:36 AM
I'm fine with Apple stumble-bumbling their way into a mere $340M/day of profit, no need for them to be any stronger than they already are.

Dr. Dre is cool.  I'd have enjoyed a halftime show of nothing but him, better than the one that actually occurred.

Better yet, have Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, and Eazy-E all get out there at the same time.  Seems like a grouping of those guys might be pretty good...
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Cincydawg on February 15, 2022, 08:23:03 AM
My step son works for Apple.  He thinks they are still innovating, but he won't talk about what his group is doing.  He showed me a photo of him and Wozniak over Christmas.

They are my largest individual stock holding by a good measure.  I had been selling some to keep some semblance of balance and finally figured I'd just keep it all as it kept going up, I should have not sold, but I was trying to diversify.

Microsoft is doing remarkably well these days, it's a bit of a surprise to me.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 15, 2022, 08:29:41 AM
I'm fine with Apple stumble-bumbling their way into a mere $340M/day of profit, no need for them to be any stronger than they already are.

Dr. Dre is cool.  I'd have enjoyed a halftime show of nothing but him, better than the one that actually occurred.

Better yet, have Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, and Eazy-E all get out there at the same time.  Seems like a grouping of those guys might be pretty good...
Ha. True. It's pretty obvious to me though that Apple is not really innovating however. Seems to be just continuations and slight improvements of already wildly popular products. Their money makers are obviously the iPhone and iPads - which have insane margins and are insanely popular. Their biggest hit since Jobs died has been wireless headphones. What innovation! The watch was a huge flop at first, but has come around in the last few years to become a huge success for them.

I agree, I love Dr. Dre. That'd be super cool to see NWA all together, but Eazy-E is dead however.  As much as I like NWA Dre, to me he was at his best as Death Row Dre with Snoop and 2Pac.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: Mdot21 on February 15, 2022, 08:38:38 AM
My step son works for Apple.  He thinks they are still innovating, but he won't talk about what his group is doing.  He showed me a photo of him and Wozniak over Christmas.

They are my largest individual stock holding by a good measure.  I had been selling some to keep some semblance of balance and finally figured I'd just keep it all as it kept going up, I should have not sold, but I was trying to diversify.

Microsoft is doing remarkably well these days, it's a bit of a surprise to me.
Great stock to own, they freaking print money. I'm not sure they are really innovating anymore. If they are- not really seeing it- and I am one of the idiots who always buys a lot of their overpriced products. 

Microsoft is killing it in large part because of their Azure cloud infrastructure service, which is the 2nd largest in the world behind Amazon's AWS. Microsoft is also killing it with that Surface- probably the best product they've ever made. 

I think Microsoft is going to make huge strides in gaming with their Game Pass thing. They are buying up all these game studios in order to build a moat around a "Netflix of gaming" that Sony is way behind on them- maybe years- and Nintendo isn't really interested in. That game pass is like $15 a month and with it you can download or flat out stream all kinds of old and new games for PC/Xbox that cost $60-$70 individually. Has a potential to be a real game changer for them- and they just bought Activision for $70 billion - maker of wildly popular Call of Duty games. 
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 08:42:49 AM
I liked NWA.  I also liked Public Enemy and Run DMC and LL CoolJ and Ice T and some others from the 80s.

I'd pretty much moved on from rap by the time Snoop and all those other newbz got popular.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: utee94 on February 15, 2022, 08:49:43 AM
Great stock to own, they freaking print money. I'm not sure they are really innovating anymore. If they are- not really seeing it- and I am one of the idiots who always buys a lot of their overpriced products.

Microsoft is killing it in large part because of their Azure cloud infrastructure service, which is the 2nd largest in the world behind Amazon's AWS. Microsoft is also killing it with that Surface- probably the best product they've ever made.

I think Microsoft is going to make huge strides in gaming with their Game Pass thing. They are buying up all these game studios in order to build a moat around a "Netflix of gaming" that Sony is way behind on them- maybe years- and Nintendo isn't really interested in. That game pass is like $15 a month and with it you can download or flat out stream all kinds of old and new games for PC/Xbox that cost $60-$70 individually. Has a potential to be a real game changer for them- and they just bought Activision for $70 billion - maker of wildly popular Call of Duty games.

Heh.  Microsoft doesn't make the Surface.  For a while, we made it for them.  The margins are negative so we stopped doing that and someone else picked up the contract.  Now their margins for all those units are negative, while we've moved on to business that's actually profitable.

But it's a gateway device for Microsoft, they really don't need to make any money on the hardware.
Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: MrNubbz on February 15, 2022, 08:51:30 AM
so would I but I prefer Robert's version
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Title: Re: NFL Crap 2021
Post by: FearlessF on February 15, 2022, 08:55:46 AM
Apple and Rap suck, but I wish I owned better performing stock

especially the past month or so

been too busy on the road to visit my advisor