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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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SuperMario

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1022 on: August 24, 2018, 07:58:37 PM »
10,000 documents 60,000 texts 40 witnesses and they could not catch him in one lie?  
You’re not serious. How many times has he been caught publicly lying in the last month? Oh wait, you believe it was an accidental mistruth or this weird memory loss thing.
C’mon. You’re a highly intelligent guy. You can’t be this blinded.
Do you also believe what he released today is the real urban Meyer? The real urban Meyer is the guy at the podium saying “who makes up a story like that?” The real one acts like a hostage reading a statement. The real one refuses to say to address the smith family or the abuse and apologizes to Buckeye nation. The person posting on twitter is his PR manager. The beginning and end of Meyer’s career will be very similar. Absolutely one of the best recruiters and most creative coaches in the game, but willing to use people and tell them what they want to hear to win them over and get his way. It’s nice to see most of the population outside of Ohio are finally seeing the man Myself and a bunch of BG Falcons learned about many years ago.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1023 on: August 24, 2018, 08:10:37 PM »
 It’s nice to see most of the population outside of Ohio are finally seeing the man Myself and a bunch of BG Falcons learned about many years ago.
Back at you - you're a highly intelligent guy do you think everyone in the state is a Meyer Nutthugger?My friends that said Tressell has to go are saying the same thing about Meyer.Many Michigan fans defended Gibbons & Lewan but not the whole lot of them
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1024 on: August 24, 2018, 08:17:34 PM »
You’re not serious. How many times has he been caught publicly lying in the last month? Oh wait, you believe it was an accidental mistruth or this weird memory loss thing.
C’mon. You’re a highly intelligent guy. You can’t be this blinded.
Do you also believe what he released today is the real urban Meyer? The real urban Meyer is the guy at the podium saying “who makes up a story like that?” The real one acts like a hostage reading a statement. The real one refuses to say to address the smith family or the abuse and apologizes to Buckeye nation. The person posting on twitter is his PR manager. The beginning and end of Meyer’s career will be very similar. Absolutely one of the best recruiters and most creative coaches in the game, but willing to use people and tell them what they want to hear to win them over and get his way. It’s nice to see most of the population outside of Ohio are finally seeing the man Myself and a bunch of BG Falcons learned about many years ago.
Yes.  The mob.  Climbing over each other to prove their leve of outrage is higher than the ass clown in the next station or website he competes with. Yeah, I am familiar with what society “thinks”
Kind of like what Jason Whitlock said.  Trying to kill masculinity, and football is the most highly visible thing- and this and Urban are just the latest vehicle. 
And that’s why they are willing to take one alleged victim’s story as gospel, but ignore the other evidence-including EVERY other person or department close to the situation 
No- I am not familiar with all these lies you speak of, and apparent neither was the commitee- who felt he lied about it covered up NOTHING.   Nothing.   He used bad judgement- no doubt.  But the same people who say he put winning first as the reason admit ZS was a shitty coach in their next sentence.  Was it loyalty or winning?
No-Clearly Meyer doesn’t really feel he owes her an apology- and clearly he has reasons.  Doesn’t make him right   He knows more than he can say I am sure.  
I was originally saying he should be fired for not telling compliance and deleting more than 1 yr old texts.  
Now that I know that both he and Smith openly discussed it, The title IX officer knew because that’s who the police called and HR was brought in- and knowing Compliance is for NCAA matters, I can forgive that.  But not for Smith.  
The fact that Smith is not the target of this vitriol is all the proof you need of the mob outrage.  
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« Reply #1025 on: August 24, 2018, 08:18:30 PM »
Back at you - you're a highly intelligent guy do you think everyone in the state is a Meyer Nutthugger?
Definitely not. Most of my close friends and family are diehard Buckeye fans. The ones that have closely followed the story are embarrassed by what’s going on. I feel bad for them and the Buckeye fans here as almost all are genuinely good guys.
Some of them, the more causal fans, are screaming that Meyer didn’t abuse her so it’s BS he’s suspended. Tough to talk rationally to that group.
The rest seem to be the ultimate optimists, the ones that always see the best in people and hope for the best. I get it, but I think that group is ignoring giant red flags.
You’ve had very reasonable takes. The good news is football starts soon. This nonsense will die down and you can get back to focusing on football.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1026 on: August 24, 2018, 08:29:18 PM »
Definitely not. Most of my close friends and family are diehard Buckeye fans. The ones that have closely followed the story are embarrassed by what’s going on. I feel bad for them and the Buckeye fans here as almost all are genuinely good guys.
Some of them, the more causal fans, are screaming that Meyer didn’t abuse her so it’s BS he’s suspended. Tough to talk rationally to that group.
The rest seem to be the ultimate optimists, the ones that always see the best in people and hope for the best. I get it, but I think that group is ignoring giant red flags.
You’ve had very reasonable takes. The good news is football starts soon. This nonsense will die down and you can get back to focusing on football.
Is my take reasonable? That he deserves to be fired for keeping a douce on his staff due some warped sense of loyalty and for deleting texts. But also- any narrative that he covered up or lied about DV- are at best, not even slightly proven and likely downright false.  And the outrage is mostly based on that false narrative.  
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« Reply #1027 on: August 24, 2018, 08:42:44 PM »
Yes.  The mob.  Climbing over each other to prove their leve of outrage is higher than the ass clown in the next station or website he competes with. Yeah, I am familiar with what society “thinks”
Kind of like what Jason Whitlock said.  Trying to kill masculinity, and football is the most highly visible thing- and this and Urban are just the latest vehicle.
And that’s why they are willing to take one alleged victim’s story as gospel, but ignore the other evidence-including EVERY other person or department close to the situation
No- I am not familiar with all these lies you speak of, and apparent neither was the commitee- who felt he lied about it covered up NOTHING.   Nothing.   He used bad judgement- no doubt.  But the same people who say he put winning first as the reason admit ZS was a shitty coach in their next sentence.  Was it loyalty or winning?
No-Clearly Meyer doesn’t really feel he owes her an apology- and clearly he has reasons.  Doesn’t make him right   He knows more than he can say I am sure.  
I was originally saying he should be fired for not telling compliance and deleting more than 1 yr old texts.  
Now that I know that both he and Smith openly discussed it, The title IX officer knew because that’s who the police called and HR was brought in- and knowing Compliance is for NCAA matters, I can forgive that.  But not for Smith.  
The fact that Smith is not the target of this vitriol is all the proof you need of the mob outrage.  
You’ve based most of your belief this entire time that Urban didn’t lie at media day and had a side conversation with other reporters and his answer that most of the world heard was just misunderstood.
Maybe it’s time you watch this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEccAVs2tF0&feature=youtu.be
Still believe he hasn’t lied?

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1028 on: August 24, 2018, 08:45:07 PM »
so, there was no press conference today

Urban issued a statement to the press and/or via twitter regarding his press conference a couple days ago?
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1029 on: August 24, 2018, 08:53:12 PM »
Is my take reasonable? That he deserves to be fired for keeping a douce on his staff due some warped sense of loyalty and for deleting texts. But also- any narrative that he covered up or lied about DV- are at best, not even slightly proven and likely downright false.  And the outrage is mostly based on that false narrative.  
No, I don’t think that’s a reasonable take at all. Not even slightly proven? Buckeye blinders are on my friend. You’re choosing to miss the truth completely. Or maybe you had a brain cyst and forgot it.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1030 on: August 24, 2018, 10:14:03 PM »
You’ve based most of your belief this entire time that Urban didn’t lie at media day and had a side conversation with other reporters and his answer that most of the world heard was just misunderstood.
Maybe it’s time you watch this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IEccAVs2tF0&feature=youtu.be
Still believe he hasn’t lied?
Seen that long ago.  Where is the lie?  Did you not read the report and his texts   The night before asking Jean Smith and and others for advice On what to say because he could not remember that incident?
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1031 on: August 24, 2018, 10:19:46 PM »
No, I don’t think that’s a reasonable take at all. Not even slightly proven? Buckeye blinders are on my friend. You’re choosing to miss the truth completely. Or maybe you had a brain cyst and forgot it.
Talk about binders my God super. I guess we should all be leave you over the committee that went over all that information and all those texts? Because that was their conclusion
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1032 on: August 24, 2018, 10:23:45 PM »
He said it again on that clip you just posted. There was a lot of he said she said and the police gave him no reason to even consider doing anything different.

What you seem to be missing is the fact that I said 1000 times I would fire him for deleting his old phone text, that’s reason enough for me. 

Has their beenDV?   Do you know that for sure since you seem to know all 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1033 on: August 24, 2018, 10:29:42 PM »
my bet is Urban will retire after this year.

people always talk about Harbaugh being a guy who is job hopper and flames out. I think Urban is more in that vein. Bowling Green two years, Utah two years. Goes to Florida for 6 years, quits, unquits for a year, then quits again.

His time at Ohio State might just be coming to an end. Talk about stress. The last month must've been the most stressful of his professional life. He did NOT look like a happy camper at that presser. He looked pissssssssed.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1034 on: August 24, 2018, 10:56:57 PM »
As I said before the best $$ an Ohio State donor could burn right now would be to send Zach smith an all expenses paid vacation to some remote cabana in the Maldives with no cell or internet service. Give him $1,000 for every day he stays off the grid.


https://twitter.com/coachzachsmith/status/1032815834832547843?s=21

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1035 on: August 24, 2018, 10:58:06 PM »
that's why I was asking about the delivery of the statement today

just written?

wondering about his facial expression and body language

I agree, this pisses him off completely.

Looks like Urban wants to kick ass on the media, the AD, the committee, Zach, and anyone else he gets close too
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