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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43638 on: April 18, 2025, 01:58:14 PM »
Passenger rail is heavily subsidized in most of the world, so this should come as no surprise.
it should come as no surprise because Brightline charges too much money to incentivize people to ditch their cars and use the train.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43639 on: April 18, 2025, 01:59:05 PM »
Some did, they got Federal dollars too.

I don't really understand a path to profitability if they lost $493 million and had $138 million in ticket sales.  That is WAY upside down.
path to profitability is getting ridership up. there are 24-25 million residents in the state of Florida- millions more illegals, millions more that vacation year round- with probably more than half living and vacationing in the 3 counties that comprise South Florida and the Greater Orlando area- the two areas the train services right now.

how much of that loss is related to their expansion to Orlando is a good question, I know they spent north of $6 billion just expanding to Orlando.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43640 on: April 18, 2025, 02:05:59 PM »
Passenger rail is heavily subsidized in most of the world, so this should come as no surprise.
is Jesse's light rail still running?
anywhere near breaking even?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43642 on: April 19, 2025, 06:44:47 AM »
Sure, they need more riders, but will  they get enough to break even even with operating costs?  They're in a large hole now including construction costs.  Maybe they do break even on operating, i don't know.

The French system costs the government tens of billions each year to cover the nut, and the building costs are not included in that.

It's "fun" to talk about HSR in the US but I'm not seeing the viability outside the NE corridor.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43643 on: April 19, 2025, 08:16:36 AM »
Railroads played a large role in the development of the United States from the Industrial Revolution in the Northeast (1820s–1850s) to the settlement of the West (1850s–1890s).

apparently, transportation has evolved
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43644 on: April 19, 2025, 08:29:01 AM »
Nearly all major cities in the US exist because of waterways.  They developed early because of that.  Atlanta, Dallas, and Denver are exceptions.

Atlanta started as the terminus (which was its first name) of a rail line coming down from Chattanooga.  I'm not sure why it ended where it did, a town called Decatur is a few miles east and it could have ended there, or even just north of the river, maybe bridging wasn't an issue.  The end is on a low ridge with no running water, it's basically a divide.  Anyway, rail really changed a lot of things. 

Cincinnati was the fourth largest city in the US circa 1880.  Chicago had both water and was a major rail hub.  

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43646 on: April 19, 2025, 09:18:38 AM »
I'd guess it will only slow things down - due process takes time, but doesn't stop deportation
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43647 on: April 19, 2025, 09:20:49 AM »
Are you happy about this?
I'll be happy if Trump follows it, because that's not guaranteed.
He has flown off the rails.  Our legal system is way too slow for the rogue wave that has been Trump's first 100 days.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43648 on: April 19, 2025, 09:25:27 AM »
This only pertains to a relatively small number of deportations happening.  

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« Reply #43649 on: April 19, 2025, 09:25:48 AM »
I'm OK with deporting people who are here illegally.
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« Reply #43650 on: April 19, 2025, 09:28:47 AM »
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #43651 on: April 19, 2025, 09:30:57 AM »
I'm OK with deporting people who are here illegally.
And as soon as the proper process is followed, we can do just that!

 

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