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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Cincydawg

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40992 on: December 27, 2024, 12:44:08 PM »
Work your ass off so the company's stock will rise.  Get a watch at retirement. 
Worker bees.
Rat race.
TGIF.

Maybe decades of that have got people thinking maybe there's a better way.
Like what?  Be lazy and whine you are poor?

I worked so I could raise my kids and have a decent retirement.  No apologies from me.

My kids are doing well too.  They also work.

they don’t whine either.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40993 on: December 27, 2024, 12:58:52 PM »
There probably isn't a better way, unless you're the guy who invented the pet rock or something.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40995 on: December 27, 2024, 03:40:54 PM »
He makes some valid points.

I'd rather he'd complain about billionaires like George Soros too.
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40997 on: December 27, 2024, 04:04:44 PM »
There is a shortage of medical doctors. It's noticeable here.

My primary care doctor is not one. She's a nurse practitioner. That is very common here. She works in an office where there is one MD, and 4 APRN's like her. Same with the cardiologist and vascular surgeon. One doctor and a lot of APRN's for support.

I don't know how you could reduce the residency and practice requirements though. Doctors need that additional training, and then even more for stuff like neurosurgeons and such.

(Just as engineers need that 4 years of practice before they can be licensed.)
I went on a date with a woman who was in her residency. She told me about cutting open someone’s abdomen after being awake for more than 24 consecutive hours.

That felt like one of those things that people do because it’s the way it was always done.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40998 on: December 27, 2024, 04:07:10 PM »
There probably isn't a better way, unless you're the guy who invented the pet rock or something.


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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #40999 on: December 27, 2024, 04:14:11 PM »
He makes some valid points.

I'd rather he'd complain about billionaires like George Soros too.
What does he propose that realistically would discompose billionaires?

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41000 on: December 27, 2024, 04:54:32 PM »
There is no substitute for hard work (at least not for most people). But there are also policies that make economic opportunity better or worse. I've heard more than a few friends waive that off with the comment saying (more or less) that the market will correct itself. That is used to justify keeping things the way they are and not intervening with government help for particular problems. And it is true, to a point. (And government "help" can also contribute to the problem, or create new problems.)

It's important to remember that the October Revolution (Russia, 1917) and the French Revolution and Reign of Terror were examples of the market correcting itself. One way the market can correct itself is through democratically enacted policy changes. Another way the market can correct itself is through violent revolt. I prefer the prior version to the latter.

Our politics right now show that the market, however one defines it, is in need of some correcting. There is a great deal of frustration right now, which seems to have been growing since the end of the Cold War. Part of that is the lack of an external enemy that feels like an existential threat to our way of life. Those kinds of threats are good for bringing people together, but--kind of like my examples above--I'd rather not resort to global cataclysm to bring us into better political balance. But given the economic indicators we've had over the last thirty years, which have generally been quite good (the 2008 crisis is a notable exception), our current political state should be pretty alarming.

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41001 on: December 27, 2024, 05:18:50 PM »
There is no substitute for hard work (at least not for most people). But there are also policies that make economic opportunity better or worse. I've heard more than a few friends waive that off with the comment saying (more or less) that the market will correct itself. That is used to justify keeping things the way they are and not intervening with government help for particular problems. And it is true, to a point. (And government "help" can also contribute to the problem, or create new problems.)

It's important to remember that the October Revolution (Russia, 1917) and the French Revolution and Reign of Terror were examples of the market correcting itself. One way the market can correct itself is through democratically enacted policy changes. Another way the market can correct itself is through violent revolt. I prefer the prior version to the latter.

Our politics right now show that the market, however one defines it, is in need of some correcting. There is a great deal of frustration right now, which seems to have been growing since the end of the Cold War. Part of that is the lack of an external enemy that feels like an existential threat to our way of life. Those kinds of threats are good for bringing people together, but--kind of like my examples above--I'd rather not resort to global cataclysm to bring us into better political balance. But given the economic indicators we've had over the last thirty years, which have generally been quite good (the 2008 crisis is a notable exception), our current political state should be pretty alarming.
What is it with our current political state that alarms you?
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41002 on: December 27, 2024, 05:53:02 PM »
The debt. 

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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41004 on: December 27, 2024, 06:25:05 PM »
folks are frustrated but obviously not nearly in enough pain to rally together to fight the debt or global warming or the evil billionaires 
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Re: OT-Catch all thread - Personal attacks will result in a time out
« Reply #41005 on: December 27, 2024, 06:26:35 PM »
Maybe a proposal as to how to fix a thing would be worth discussion.  Otherwise it’s whining. 

 

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