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« Reply #32116 on: May 25, 2024, 03:37:57 AM »
Why do people pretend this about a state or two state solution.  Hamas and the Palestinians want to exterminate Jews and erase Israel from existence.  This is not complicated.  The idea that this only began in 1945 is completely illusory.
This is complete and utter nonsense spoken by a person who knows very little about the topic at hand. Firstly, Hamas does not = the Palestinian people. Stop with that nonsense. This is a bullsh*t talking point that people use to try and muddy the waters. Stop conflating Hamas with the Palestinian people. Hamas are a militant extremist group who are a johnny come lately in the grand scheme of things- they've only been in existence since 1987 and have only been a factor in the conflict for 17 years- as they captured ruling power of Gaza in 2007 and have never relinquished it despite protests and calls for new elections in Gaza. And for the 100th f**cking time- Hamas would be nowhere near as preeminent in Gaza as it is now if it were not for: Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu has been propping Hamas up for years. Why? To split Gaza and the West Bank and ensure there never would be a Palestinian state. Netanyahu loves Hamas. It's kept him in power and it's kept Israel from ever having to make a deal on a two state solution- something he is vehemently against and always has been vehemently against.

You're right, it's not complicated at all. Israel is a European colonizer settler project crusader state of the 20th century- and they have been ethnic cleansing, occupying, and subjugating the indigenous population of Palestine for nearly 80 f**cking years. Pretty simple sh*t. Not rocket science.
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« Reply #32117 on: May 25, 2024, 03:38:27 AM »
Lulzno.
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Lulz, yeah.

You clearly don't know anything about the topic. Read up on it why don't you.

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« Reply #32118 on: May 25, 2024, 05:22:07 AM »
Good to know this isn't complicated at all.  Some very simple solution to all this should be out there.

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« Reply #32119 on: May 25, 2024, 06:03:47 AM »
Government solutions to problems ...

The gasoline sale announced by the Biden administration fulfills a mandate passed by Congress in March to close the Northeast Reserve this year.

De Haan said the reserve didn’t make financial sense to begin with. It was set up in in 2014 in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy, which knocked out refineries and caused chaos at the pump.

But the reserve cost taxpayers $200 million just to maintain while the gasoline in the stockpile is only worth about $103 million right now, De Haan said.

“I don’t like the political victory lap,” he said of the Biden administration’s announcement. “It didn’t make sense to have this reserve. [Former President Donald] Trump tried to shut it down in 2020. Congress now approved it being shut down.”



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« Reply #32120 on: May 25, 2024, 06:21:39 AM »
Before the 1967 war, the US was not a major arms supplier for Israel.  Most of their stuff was French and some British.  In the Suez Crisis, we effectively were on the "other side" with Russia, against Israel/Britain/France.  Israel became our ally when Egypt et al. went into the Soviet sphere for a while, Israel was a proxy in the Cold War.  Then the Camp David Accords secured significant foreign aid to Israel, and Egypt, basically buying a peace treaty.

It seems everyone agrees Israel's days are not somehow numbered, though they are increasingly alienating themselves from the world.  Their efforts to elimiinate Hamas likely will be counterproductive for them.  I'm not sure what "two state solution" could be practicably enacted now.  A good portion of the West Bank is in Israeli hands now in terms of settlements.  

It's a mess.  I don't think it's a simple mess at all, which is why it will persist for a long time no matter what other countries attempt.  At least we slid by that Israeli-Iran tit for tat.  That could have turned dangerously.

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« Reply #32121 on: May 25, 2024, 06:23:44 AM »

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« Reply #32123 on: May 25, 2024, 09:44:37 AM »
Lulz, yeah.

You clearly don't know anything about the topic. Read up on it why don't you.
For some reason Mdot, your take on this makes me think of:


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« Reply #32124 on: May 25, 2024, 10:07:33 AM »
So, this court intervenes under the guise of genocide.

It has done nothing about genocide committed by China. I'd argue Russia is committing genocide - vowing to eradicate "Nazis" in Ukraine. Genocide is occurring in parts of Africa.

Crickets.
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« Reply #32125 on: May 25, 2024, 10:18:40 AM »
They did indict Putin. 

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« Reply #32126 on: May 25, 2024, 10:22:50 AM »
And are doing nothing.
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« Reply #32127 on: May 25, 2024, 10:25:40 AM »
As I noted previously, there usually is nothing that can do unless the person charged travels to a country that will hold them.

Which leaders are on the ICC's most wanted list? | Reuters
Which leaders are on the ICC's most wanted list? | Reuters


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« Reply #32128 on: May 25, 2024, 10:27:27 AM »
Hamas promotes Palestinian nationalism in an Islamic context. In its 1988 charter, Hamas articulated its objective to establish an Islamic Palestinian state throughout the entire territory of Mandatory Palestine.

To me, this sounds like Hamas wants to replace Israel with their own state.  

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« Reply #32129 on: May 25, 2024, 10:38:40 AM »
Hamas promotes Palestinian nationalism in an Islamic context. In its 1988 charter, Hamas articulated its objective to establish an Islamic Palestinian state throughout the entire territory of Mandatory Palestine.

To me, this sounds like Hamas wants to replace Israel with their own state. 
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