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We here have made college an egalitarian "experience" with kids below the mean in academic achievement attending.

Indoctrination camps. 


Sorry... couldn't resist.

Pretty much. I'd like to see that come to an end and rely on community colleges much more.

In Europe, about 35% of HS grads go to college.  Here the figure is almost double that.

I think some of this is that our HS system is not as rigorous for that top third, and kids go to college to catch up on whatever they failed to learn in HS.

Another thing about college in Europe, you basically take ONLY courses in your major, you don't take English and history and liberal arts if you are a science major.  So, they get a more extensive study in the field of choice undiluted if you will by those make up courses.  They are assumed to have learned a foreign language in HS, and their own language, and history, etc., so they come out of college with a more extensive knowledge in their field of study.

We here have made college an egalitarian "experience" with kids below the mean in academic achievement attending.

In the USA we're using colleges in ways that were never intended.  The classic liberal arts education was created to develop the sons of wealthy men into erudite and well-rounded business moguls and lawyers.  It was never intended to be vocational school for 70% of the population and it serves that purpose extremely poorly.

I certainly agree, but community colleges are in the same business

Not really. They offer vocational and technical degrees that can get you a good job with a degree or certificate. Can't get a good job with an art history degree.

It would be fun to drive one in a field, you can do that in places.

Tanks are interesting to me.