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« Reply #5096 on: April 22, 2021, 10:22:37 AM »
all I can say is Banks make errors all the time so if you dont manage your checkbook or something independent of online banking info you will not catch these errors should they happen

maybe youre the guy who simply looks at your balance and thinks looks ok to me

banks love that
Usually looks ok. More money goes in then goes out. Then when the number gets too large, big chunks go into savings.

(i’m actually pretty fastidious about tracking my finances. Really almost never have banking mistakes. Much of the stuff is too automated at this point. And I agree with Badge financial literacy and such should be part of our educational curriculum, oh Lord knows, there are some topics I still don’t have a great grasp on. But none of those have to do with my checkbook)

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« Reply #5097 on: April 22, 2021, 10:33:35 AM »
had an issue with a bank 10 years ago or so.  around $1,000 disappeared.

I keep paperwork and records and was able to show them the issue.  They were unconvinced. and accepted no blame.

I contemplated taking this to my lawyer, but finally just moved all my accounts to the local small town bank.

no issues since, but the small town bank was sold a few years ago to a large bank.
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« Reply #5098 on: April 22, 2021, 10:52:55 AM »
Can't trust them big city types, I tell you.

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« Reply #5099 on: April 22, 2021, 10:56:16 AM »
Like BAB, I don't "balance my checkbook" in any traditional sense.

I have a spreadsheet with two main columns, "cleared" and "pending". The top number in "cleared" is my current balance. I typically only write one check per month (rent), but via online bill pay, debit card transactions, etc, there are a lot of transactions that aren't immediately charged and show up in online banking.

I go through online banking every couple of days to look at what has officially cleared and move it to the cleared column, confirm that everything lines up perfectly with what I expect, and then delete everything but the top line of "cleared" which is my balance as of all those transactions. 

I like it because it automatically sums everything in the "cleared" and "pending" columns and I have a third location where it shows the sum of those debits so I know what's left at all times. 

Effectively I'm "balancing my checkbook" but it's not a checkbook.

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« Reply #5100 on: April 22, 2021, 11:01:38 AM »
I'm pretty casual with my "checking", which is done through Schwab.  No issues that I've noticed.  The thing that I still get surprised by is the SS payment each month.

Suddenly the balanced goes up appreciably and I can't think why, for a second.

Oh yeah.

Gubmint.

My goal was to have all my finances with Schwab once I retired, and I have only one other account because of residual stock options.  That is now with ETrade who completely mangled the account opening when the company decided to use them instead of doing it themselves.  As soon as my options expire in two years, I will close that account utterly and with disdain and relief.

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« Reply #5101 on: April 22, 2021, 11:04:36 AM »
I keep paperwork and records and was able to show them the issue.  They were unconvinced. and accepted no blame.
so they stiffed you for a grand?
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« Reply #5102 on: April 22, 2021, 11:10:54 AM »
Like BAB, I don't "balance my checkbook" in any traditional sense.

I have a spreadsheet with two main columns, "cleared" and "pending". The top number in "cleared" is my current balance. I typically only write one check per month (rent), but via online bill pay, debit card transactions, etc, there are a lot of transactions that aren't immediately charged and show up in online banking.

I go through online banking every couple of days to look at what has officially cleared and move it to the cleared column, confirm that everything lines up perfectly with what I expect, and then delete everything but the top line of "cleared" which is my balance as of all those transactions.

I like it because it automatically sums everything in the "cleared" and "pending" columns and I have a third location where it shows the sum of those debits so I know what's left at all times.

Effectively I'm "balancing my checkbook" but it's not a checkbook.
that should work

as long as youre accounting for everything hitting your account no problem
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« Reply #5103 on: April 22, 2021, 11:34:40 AM »
so they stiffed you for a grand?
I'm pretty sure, but couldn't prove it to them.

Someone did, I'm real sure of that.  Just couldn't pin it on them.

It happened as one bank was purchased by another bank.  During the merger.
After the merger I get my "new" account statement and PooF!
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« Reply #5104 on: April 22, 2021, 11:40:31 AM »
Yup.
One teacher at my school sends out numerous, obnoxious emails about gathering money together to buy powerball tickets.  Most people put $5 in, including the principal.

I abstain.
The thing that makes those offers hard to pass up is that say you have nine co-workers (I'm sure your school is bigger than that, this is just a hypothetical). If all but you go in on powerball and it hits, your nine co-workers are all going to retire into luxury while you are stuck doing the work of 10 people and training nine replacements. It might rationally be worth the $5 to avoid the possibility of that fate.

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« Reply #5105 on: April 22, 2021, 12:09:53 PM »
A really good idea with a large price tag and no funding.

Midtown’s highway-capping park boosters release new video, continue outreach | Urbanize Atlanta

This freeway, the "Downtown Connector", divides midtown with one side enjoying massive growth and the other not so much (yet).  Great concept anyway.  Maybe they can manage something smaller.


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« Reply #5106 on: April 22, 2021, 12:10:35 PM »
The thing that makes those offers hard to pass up is that say you have nine co-workers (I'm sure your school is bigger than that, this is just a hypothetical). If all but you go in on powerball and it hits, your nine co-workers are all going to retire into luxury while you are stuck doing the work of 10 people and training nine replacements. It might rationally be worth the $5 to avoid the possibility of that fate.
Yeah, that's the hard part. 

You'll never miss the winning lottery ticket you didn't purchase. But you WILL miss the winning lottery ticket that was offered to you that you didn't join, when you see everyone else win.

That said, Powerball drawings happen ~9 times a month. $5 each time is $45/mo. That's $540/year (although likely lower if they don't do this over the summer and school breaks). Average stock market return is ~9%.

That amount invested annually over the span of 40 years is $240K. 

So if it's a one-time deal, especially if it's a major Powerball jackpot, I'd say spend the $5.  If it's every drawing, twice a week, then I don't know that it's worth it. 

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« Reply #5107 on: April 22, 2021, 12:11:38 PM »
Yep. I do it maybe 3 times a year as an absurd fantasy.
I noticed this years ago.

  • Blackjack has a payout of about 99%
  • Craps has a payout of about 98%
  • Roulette has a payout of 94.7%
  • Slot machines typically payout about 90%
  • State lotteries typically payout about 62%

Based on the above, nobody should ever play slot machines let alone lotteries but they do, why?

The answer is the absurd fantasy.
  • If you drop $10 on a hand of blackjack your best-case-scenario is to win $15.
  • Craps is more complex but the highest payout is 30:1 so if you drop $10 on a 2/12 bet and win you get $300.
  • With roulette it depends on what you are playing but the highest payout is 35:1 so if you drop $10 and win you get $350.
None of the above are life-changing or even close.

The absurd fantasy with slots/lotteries is that you can drop $10 (or less) and hit a life-changing payout. That is what keeps people playing despite vastly superior odds offered by other forms of gambling.


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« Reply #5108 on: April 22, 2021, 12:20:19 PM »
I noticed this years ago.

  • Blackjack has a payout of about 99%
  • Craps has a payout of about 98%
  • Roulette has a payout of 94.7%
  • Slot machines typically payout about 90%
  • State lotteries typically payout about 62%

Based on the above, nobody should ever play slot machines let alone lotteries but they do, why?

The answer is the absurd fantasy.
  • If you drop $10 on a hand of blackjack your best-case-scenario is to win $15.
  • Craps is more complex but the highest payout is 30:1 so if you drop $10 on a 2/12 bet and win you get $300.
  • With roulette it depends on what you are playing but the highest payout is 35:1 so if you drop $10 and win you get $350.
None of the above are life-changing or even close.

The absurd fantasy with slots/lotteries is that you can drop $10 (or less) and hit a life-changing payout. That is what keeps people playing despite vastly superior odds offered by other forms of gambling.


actually craps is just about the only casino game where you can get true odds on a bet after the point has been established

the 99% blackjack assumes various rules are in affect and you play perfect basic strategy course if you count the odds can swing in your favor

never play roulette slots or keno they are sucker games


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« Reply #5109 on: April 22, 2021, 12:21:57 PM »
Exactly. 


Anyone who regularly plays the lottery is simply throwing money away that could be used for REAL wealth-building. 

I don't regularly play the lottery. Two or three times a year, often when I'm getting oil changes where I'm not only stuck in the gas/carwash/oil service center for ~45 minutes but I ALSO need to be carrying cash to tip the car wash guys, I'll throw $10 down on a lotto ticket. The opportunity cost of that $20-30 over the span of 12 months is what, a case of beer? It's certainly not going into my 401K or E*trade account. So it's worth the absurd fantasy.

Now, though, I'll tell you the really funny [and even more absurd] part...

I don't play Powerball or Megamillions. I only play California Superlotto. 

Why? Because the odds of winning Superlotto are 1 in 41M, and a ticket only costs a doller, so for $10 I have odds of 1 in 4.1M.

The odds of Powerball are 1 in 292M and Megamillions are 1 in 301M, and a ticket costs $2. So my $10 basically gives me about 1 in 60M odds of winning. 

Both are absurd fantasies, but my rational brain doesn't allow me to take the worse odds for the larger payout, because Superlotto payouts are "enough" lol...

I'd rather take 1 in 4.1M odds of winning $12M than 1 in 60M odds of winning $500M+. Because $12M is still life-changing money. 

 

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