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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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« Reply #42098 on: February 20, 2025, 05:13:20 PM »
bad chemicals
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« Reply #42099 on: February 20, 2025, 05:16:34 PM »
Diagnosed cancer rates have been declining.


The majority of clinical trials fail,even Phase 3 trials often fail.

“We” want to be lazy and eat crap and have some pill to cure the ensuing malady.

Autism diagnosis is far more prevalent than in 1970.  It existed undiagnosed.


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« Reply #42100 on: February 20, 2025, 05:44:21 PM »
The issue is not number of diagnoses of autism, the issue is number of actual cases, and with that, I think there are definite problems with saying the rates are not increasing.  

How about diabetes?  That's important.  Those rates are skyrocketing as well, and nobody can say anything about not knowing what diabetes was 50 years ago.  Doctors knew full well exactly what it was, despite the fact they hardly ever came across it. 

Something's up.  I don't mind a guy who says he'd like to find out what.  

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« Reply #42101 on: February 20, 2025, 05:55:19 PM »
The issue is not number of diagnoses of autism, the issue is number of actual cases, and with that, I think there are definite problems with saying the rates are not increasing. 

How about diabetes?  That's important.  Those rates are skyrocketing as well, and nobody can say anything about not knowing what diabetes was 50 years ago.  Doctors knew full well exactly what it was, despite the fact they hardly ever came across it.

Something's up.  I don't mind a guy who says he'd like to find out what. 
I don't think anyone disagrees with you about diabetes.  With autism, yes, there is no blood test for it, so there are more cases, because we actually recognize it in lesser cases now.

My son has an autism diagnoses.  I have 2 kids who do not.  There is no way he would have been diagnosed a generation ago.  He gets straight As, and is in the gifted program.  He heavily masks at school, and achieves.  He also struggles to make friends, and melts down at home.  A generation ago he gets spanked at home, and his teachers call him a loner, and we move along.

I think the bigger issue is diet related cancers, when smoking has VASTLY dropped, and drinking has somewhat dropped.  Cancer is cancer.  When we've knocked out a large cause, and reduced another one, the way we eat needs to be examined.  I'm totally on board with that.  The weird thing is how we've politicized feeding children healthy food.  And if you think you are are the right side of that argument, you are wrong.  Because every time they've tried to address that, the minority party has fought against it.

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« Reply #42102 on: February 20, 2025, 06:01:32 PM »
How about diabetes?  That's important.  Those rates are skyrocketing as well, and nobody can say anything about not knowing what diabetes was 50 years ago.  Doctors knew full well exactly what it was, despite the fact they hardly ever came across it.

Something's up.  I don't mind a guy who says he'd like to find out what. 
We eat more/worse and are more sedentary. Seems like a good place to start. 

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« Reply #42103 on: February 20, 2025, 06:09:48 PM »
Why would food cause autism?
Pesticides, herbicides, bad chemicals, hormones? 

That stuff wasn't there 50 years ago.

I know you don't like the new HHS guy. But he has some good thoughts. I'd rather have him (a literal rock) over people like


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« Reply #42104 on: February 20, 2025, 06:14:34 PM »
That's revolting in so many ways
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« Reply #42105 on: February 20, 2025, 06:59:44 PM »
We had more pesticides etc. 50 years ago and many have been banned. But we do eat poorly in the main.  

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« Reply #42106 on: February 20, 2025, 08:01:23 PM »
Pesticides, herbicides, bad chemicals, hormones?

That stuff wasn't there 50 years ago.

I know you don't like the new HHS guy. But he has some good thoughts. I'd rather have him (a literal rock) over people like



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« Reply #42107 on: February 20, 2025, 08:38:30 PM »
More than 15,000 influenza cases have been reported this flu season, according to the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services. Influenza A is the main strain taking over the state this year, with more than 14,000 cases.

Numbers are still climbing, and several state health officials said it's unusual for peak flu numbers to arrive so late in the season.

“We’re still peaking as for the cases in Nebraska and in the U.S.,” Dr. Renuga Vivekanandan, an infectious disease physician and Chief Medical Officer for CHI said. “I would say we’re still going to expect more cases middle of March, end of March, and then it slowly should taper off.”

Vivekanandan recommends those with symptoms — like runny nose and a fever — talk to their primary care provider about getting tested or take an at-home test.

Nebraskans can also take preventative measures to protect against catching the flu or other illnesses. Molly Herman, epidemiology manager at the Northeast Nebraska Public Health Department, said it’s never too late to get vaccinated for the flu or other respiratory illnesses like COVID.

“Since Nebraskans care about their communities, something they can do that's really quick and relatively easy is get that flu shot or COVID shot,” Herman said. “You're going to need to reduce the risk of getting grandma sick, which could end up being a catastrophic illness for grandma.”

Herman said local health departments can connect those looking to get vaccinated with places that can do it for free.

The cold weather is one factor causing higher amounts of cases because people are indoors more and, Herman said, the low temperatures keep germs alive.

“For example, if someone coughs into their hand and then uses that hand to open a door outside, it's possible that the flu virus could hang out on that door handle longer during cold times than in the middle of summer,” she said.

Herman and Vivekanandan both recommended eating healthy, staying hydrated and washing hands to keep from getting sick. Herman also said people can make a homemade air purifier with a box fan and furnace filter to help stop the spread of germs.
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« Reply #42108 on: February 20, 2025, 08:59:05 PM »
Just dropping in from a crazy stretch at work to agree with our resident Chemistry PhD: 50 years ago, we were awash with all kinds of nasty chemicals that have subsequently been banned, or at least substantially limited in their use. I've litigated a decent amount of mass tort stuff as it relates to one of them (well, not a chemical, a substance)--a very useful substance, with a nasty habit of killing a lot of people in a really grueling and horrible way.

And to agree with ELA re pretty much everything he's said in the last couple of pages of this. I, too, have an autistic kid, who falls into what used to be called Aspergers Syndrome. My brother, too. And I would bet, dollars to donuts, at least one, if not both of my parents. All brilliant in their own way. And ELA nailed it--50 (and 40 and 30) years ago, everyone just thought of my brother as weird. Now his nuerologist has no trouble saying he's autistic. He's coped fine, but it would have been a lot better if he had received additional supports--and understanding from those around him--when he was a kid.

I feel very comfortable in saying that if a Democratic President had nominated Kennedy to be our HHS, the Republican freak out would be as big, if not bigger. Deep down, almost all of you know that.

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« Reply #42109 on: February 20, 2025, 09:04:13 PM »
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« Reply #42110 on: February 20, 2025, 09:15:17 PM »
Pesticides, herbicides, bad chemicals, hormones?

That stuff wasn't there 50 years ago.

I know you don't like the new HHS guy. But he has some good thoughts. I'd rather have him (a literal rock) over people like



They invented pesticides in 1975?

I lroll my eyes at that fella. The rallying around someone who would’ve been mocked endlessly if he’d not joined up with some folks’ team is a reminder of an unfortunate trend in our national dialogue. But everyone falls in line.

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« Reply #42111 on: February 20, 2025, 09:35:15 PM »
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