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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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« Reply #40264 on: November 23, 2024, 09:38:17 AM »
I hate the concept of any western Pacific war.
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« Reply #40265 on: November 23, 2024, 09:41:29 AM »
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« Reply #40266 on: November 23, 2024, 09:58:26 AM »
That number doesn't seem all that large?

Like it would be large if it was my net worth, but Columbus is a pretty big city. If one in 45 people in the city is a migrant/refugee/asylum seeker, that's 20,000 total people, not a terribly large group. If you take that $6.6 million across even a group that size (which might be more, might be less), it's about $110 per person per year. So in the scheme of all that not a terribly large spend.

I get three times that much in lunch subsidies because I go into the office regularly at work.
That’s a good perspective on the cost per. I didn’t really think of it that way. That being said, I’m old school where I think every little bit of the budget for people illegally here leads to our deficit issues. 6.6 million in Columbus and how many millions everywhere else? And the expense doesn’t stop there. It weighs on the medical system and other parts of the budget. We excuse it by saying it’s actually a small number. Consumers do the same when they spend on things they don’t need as well. Ahh, I’ll just put $1,000 on my credit card and it’s not big deal compared to the 70k income. Five years later they suddenly have 25k in credit car debt or a 37 trillion dollar deficit.

lastly, diminishing 20,000 illegals/undocuments or whatever we call them is scary. It’s one city in the Midwest nowhere near the borders. When did 20,000 illegals become an insignificant number? We can talk about percentage of the population and whatnot, but the biggest flaw so many in society have is bending on principles one inch at a time and then over time they wonder how did I get so far from my desired location. Health. Finances. Relationships. 

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« Reply #40267 on: November 23, 2024, 10:24:59 AM »
I agree it's a real problem, I'm not sure of any numbers.  I also continue to think Trump's plans won't amount to much more than optics, and a lot of negative media coverage on specific events, like the photo of kids in cages under Bush, oh wait, under Obama, and AOC crying at a fence, somewhere.

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« Reply #40268 on: November 23, 2024, 10:53:54 AM »

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When did 20,000 illegals become an insignificant number?
Well I think they are pretty clearly here legally

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« Reply #40269 on: November 23, 2024, 11:08:25 AM »
Folks who crossed the border, surrenedered to BP, requested asylum, and received that official status with some future court date, are here legally.  They can even be granted temporary work permits under some programs.

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« Reply #40271 on: November 23, 2024, 11:35:50 AM »
wish it was 900 more

hell as long as I'm just wishing, 90,000 more
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« Reply #40272 on: November 23, 2024, 11:41:18 AM »
That’s a good perspective on the cost per. I didn’t really think of it that way. That being said, I’m old school where I think every little bit of the budget for people illegally here leads to our deficit issues. 6.6 million in Columbus and how many millions everywhere else? And the expense doesn’t stop there. It weighs on the medical system and other parts of the budget. We excuse it by saying it’s actually a small number. Consumers do the same when they spend on things they don’t need as well. Ahh, I’ll just put $1,000 on my credit card and it’s not big deal compared to the 70k income. Five years later they suddenly have 25k in credit car debt or a 37 trillion dollar deficit.

lastly, diminishing 20,000 illegals/undocuments or whatever we call them is scary. It’s one city in the Midwest nowhere near the borders. When did 20,000 illegals become an insignificant number? We can talk about percentage of the population and whatnot, but the biggest flaw so many in society have is bending on principles one inch at a time and then over time they wonder how did I get so far from my desired location. Health. Finances. Relationships.
I’m pretty sure not every refugee/migrant/asylum seeker is a “illegal.”

In a larger sense, it points two a reality of what is sometimes a little pointless feeling about these discussions. Many people looking for a reason to be scared of people like their own grandparents or people who settled wonderful places like the Midwest. The fearful American is more and more our national personality.

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« Reply #40273 on: November 23, 2024, 11:42:19 AM »
Any "asylee" is here legally.

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« Reply #40274 on: November 23, 2024, 11:57:06 AM »
I’m pretty sure not every refugee/migrant/asylum seeker is a “illegal.”

In a larger sense, it points two a reality of what is sometimes a little pointless feeling about these discussions. Many people looking for a reason to be scared of people like their own grandparents or people who settled wonderful places like the Midwest. The fearful American is more and more our national personality.
Nah.  It is humorous when folks on the left ( and there is no debate you are) try telling us how the other side ( anyone who disagrees on an issue) thinks and feels.  Seems to me that habit is super strong, basic playbook.  And I think it helped contribute to the recent election results.

Try common sense.  Does it make sense to allow thousands of people into our country we have no idea their background?  Does it make sense to allow all that Fentanyl in and just accept the addictions and overdoses? When we find those here illegally in our criminal system - does it make sense to release them?
That’s our national questions- and to the majority the answers are easy. 
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« Reply #40275 on: November 23, 2024, 12:05:42 PM »
Nah.  It is humorous when folks on the left ( and there is no debate you are) try telling us how the other side ( anyone who disagrees on an issue) thinks and feels.  Seems to me that habit is super strong, basic playbook.  And I think it helped contribute to the recent election results.

Try common sense.  Does it make sense to allow thousands of people into our country we have no idea their background?  Does it make sense to allow all that Fentanyl in and just accept the addictions and overdoses? When we find those here illegally in our criminal system - does it make sense to release them?
That’s our national questions- and to the majority the answers are easy.
I’m not telling anyone what they think or feel. I just watch how people behave. Just applying some of that common sense. 

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« Reply #40276 on: November 23, 2024, 12:14:00 PM »
IMany people looking for a reason to be scared of people like their own grandparents or people who settled wonderful places like the Midwest. 
Except my grandparents came over in a legal manner and none of their peers illegally crossing the boarder were drug runners and parts of the cartels. Outside of that insignificant and minor issue, basically exactly the same. My grandparents peers were clearly part of a fentanyl crisis as well.

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« Reply #40277 on: November 24, 2024, 08:08:57 AM »
I realize I'll be in Vegas during the Game, which means I'll need to post up in a sports book around 9 am. Anyone have any tips on the best ones?

 

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