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betarhoalphadelta

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« Reply #11326 on: January 19, 2022, 12:28:07 PM »
There may be a wing "shortage" to some extent, but it's also a byproduct of chicken wing economics. 

A whole chicken can easily feed a family of four. The "wing" portion of that same chicken is half an appetizer. 

That means if you want to eat "chicken", killing one bird provides 3-4 meals. If you decide you want to eat "wings", it probably requires the death of 3 birds for a single meal. 

Beef tenderloin is expensive because on a cow that yields 400+ lbs of meat, there are two tenderloins weighing about 4-5 pounds each. So what is one of the most desired cuts of beef due to its tenderness is only 2.5% of the yield. Hence it's expensive. 

The same is true of wings. A chicken might yield ~5 lb of meat, two wings (4 wing "pieces") is maybe 8% of the weight of the bird. Yet because of the social nature of eating "wings" and their prominence as bar food, they are in high demand. 

We expect them to be cheap, because wings BECAME bar food by virtue of being cheap. But they're a victim of their own success, where now so many restaurants are offering boneless wings, using what was previously the most expensive and desired part of the chicken (breast) instead, to save money

Personally I don't know what's so great about chicken breast. IMHO the thigh is the most flavorful part of the bird. When McDonald's craved to public demand to make "all white meat" McNuggets, the quality went down significantly IMHO. Put that dark meat back in! That's the good stuff!

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« Reply #11327 on: January 19, 2022, 12:58:33 PM »
I'll try it
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« Reply #11328 on: January 19, 2022, 01:16:49 PM »
There may be a wing "shortage" to some extent, but it's also a byproduct of chicken wing economics.

A whole chicken can easily feed a family of four. The "wing" portion of that same chicken is half an appetizer.

That means if you want to eat "chicken", killing one bird provides 3-4 meals. If you decide you want to eat "wings", it probably requires the death of 3 birds for a single meal.

Beef tenderloin is expensive because on a cow that yields 400+ lbs of meat, there are two tenderloins weighing about 4-5 pounds each. So what is one of the most desired cuts of beef due to its tenderness is only 2.5% of the yield. Hence it's expensive.

The same is true of wings. A chicken might yield ~5 lb of meat, two wings (4 wing "pieces") is maybe 8% of the weight of the bird. Yet because of the social nature of eating "wings" and their prominence as bar food, they are in high demand.

We expect them to be cheap, because wings BECAME bar food by virtue of being cheap. But they're a victim of their own success, where now so many restaurants are offering boneless wings, using what was previously the most expensive and desired part of the chicken (breast) instead, to save money.

Personally I don't know what's so great about chicken breast. IMHO the thigh is the most flavorful part of the bird. When McDonald's craved to public demand to make "all white meat" McNuggets, the quality went down significantly IMHO. Put that dark meat back in! That's the good stuff!
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« Reply #11329 on: January 19, 2022, 01:34:32 PM »
The Bronson Bar

Hump day, WING day!
We have your boneless or traditional wings. Only $.75 each (minimum of 6, dine in only)


Broasted and awesome.............. I'll be there around 4:30


Gotta swap those out for pub chips. That's where the money is. (I'm saying I really want wings and pub chips)

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« Reply #11330 on: January 19, 2022, 01:37:16 PM »
Personally I don't know what's so great about chicken breast. IMHO the thigh is the most flavorful part of the bird. When McDonald's craved to public demand to make "all white meat" McNuggets, the quality went down significantly IMHO. Put that dark meat back in! That's the good stuff!
A. Isn't there a thigh shortage now due to someone selling them as a wing alternative?
B. I think the breast carries the mantle of looking large and having the meat that seems "clean" in some way. Appeals to the simple palates (kids) and the semi-health food people and more importantly wannabe health food people (the people like me, but less quirky and interesting). 

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« Reply #11331 on: January 19, 2022, 01:39:08 PM »
I'm in a 1200 sf house, and 40% of the time there are 5 people and a large dog living here, so I get it re: space.

I still spend $250+ a week at Costco though lol.


Good gosh almighty. 

The thing is, you got five people and a dog consuming all that stuff. So that does help. 

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« Reply #11332 on: January 19, 2022, 01:47:53 PM »
A. Isn't there a thigh shortage now due to someone selling them as a wing alternative?
B. I think the breast carries the mantle of looking large and having the meat that seems "clean" in some way. Appeals to the simple palates (kids) and the semi-health food people and more importantly wannabe health food people (the people like me, but less quirky and interesting).
For chicken breast to be good, it needs to be brined. Preferred cooking method would be to deep fry it from there, or make something like Chicken Francais.
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« Reply #11333 on: January 19, 2022, 02:23:01 PM »
A. Isn't there a thigh shortage now due to someone selling them as a wing alternative?
B. I think the breast carries the mantle of looking large and having the meat that seems "clean" in some way. Appeals to the simple palates (kids) and the semi-health food people and more importantly wannabe health food people (the people like me, but less quirky and interesting).
I know WingStop is apparently now selling thighs. But I haven't heard that there's any particular shortage of thighs. 

My thing when I get KFC is to get a 4-piece "leg & thigh" combo instead of the breast & wing combo. So much more flavor in those pieces. 

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« Reply #11334 on: January 19, 2022, 02:54:29 PM »
If I'm grilling, baking or sautéing chicken, it's thigh meat for sure, or brined breast.

If I'm frying, it's breast or wing. 
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« Reply #11335 on: January 19, 2022, 03:03:10 PM »
I keep cooked chicken breast on hand in the fridge, it's the rare cheap meat that tastes fine cold because it is lean, so it's great for salads and is easy to use as a filling for tacos and other things.

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« Reply #11336 on: January 19, 2022, 04:36:38 PM »


Tell them to make a place at the sink ,it really doesn't get any better,simply lip smackin'
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« Reply #11337 on: January 19, 2022, 04:51:41 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bidens-infrastructure-bill-now-signed-law-mandates-vehicle-kill-switches-2026


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« Reply #11338 on: January 20, 2022, 07:02:53 AM »
Having fun playing baseball 

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« Reply #11339 on: January 20, 2022, 07:39:21 AM »
Kinda chilly here now. Glad you're having fun.
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