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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2

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ohio1317

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2018, 12:55:05 AM »
1. (1)Ohio State: Offense looks incredible and defense much better this week.  We'll see how they with a much higher level of competition this week.
2. (2) Wisconsin: Continue to be solid and heavy favorite to win the west outright.
3. (5) Penn State: Needed to see if week 1 was just first week issues or sign of things.  Now appears to just be first week things and they have a solid win from last week.
4 (3). Michigan: Did everything right, just lowered them because Penn State grew on me a bit more. 
5. (4) Michigan State: Tough playing west coast at night for Big Ten teams.  Seems to have been that way a long time.  Still concerning for experienced team though, especially offense.
6. (8) Iowa: Probably too high after a game offense was not great in.  Still, defense great and a decent win over Iowa State who always wants this game bad.
7. (7) Maryland:  Too big of a struggle for too long vs. Bowling Green, but pulled way and now 2-0.
8. (9) Nebraska: Weird putting up after a loss, but looked a lot better in loss than others.  Think the Scott Frost era is going to work nicely.
9. (11) Minnesota: Possibly underrated win.  Maybe too high.
10. (6) Northwestern: Loss to Duke definitely raises more red flags than a week ago.  Still, very Northwestern-esque to struggle early and come on late.
11. (12) Indiana: Won a game vs. ACC opponent.  Maybe too low here.
12. (10) Purdue: Ended last year with a lot of excitement.   Not starting this year the same.
13. (13) Rutgers: Have had far less luck vs. Ohio State since joining the conference than they should.  Should improve, but did not look good Saturday.
14. (14) Illinois: They are 2-0, but could easily see them finishing 2-10.
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2018, 07:53:00 AM »
  • Ohio State:  Perhaps the defensive lapses in the opener were just first game issues and nothing to get overly concerned about?  
  • Wisconsin:  Still looking consistently solid.  
  • Penn State:  Perhaps the issues in the ApState game were just first game issues and nothing to get overly concerned about?
  • Michigan:  Perhaps Notre Dame is really good and losing at their place was no big deal?
  • Michigan State:  I'm not going to penalize a team too much for losing in the middle of the night out West.  
  • Iowa:  Looking good but not great.  
  • Maryland:  I have two concerns that are keeping me from ranking them higher:  First, although the 45-14 final over BG looks great, they were trailing deep in the third before exploding for five unanswered TD's in the last 20 minutes.  Second, just how good (or not) is Texas?  
  • Indiana:  I'm impressed with their win over UVA.  
  • Nebraska:  Perhaps Colorado is pretty good?
  • Minnesota:  Perhaps they can row the boat to Bowl Eligibility or more?  
  • Northwestern:  The combination of losing at home to Dook and of their previous opponent looking dreadful really knocks down the Wildcats.  
  • Purdue:  Perhaps they are still better than the last two?
  • Rutgers:  Perhaps they are still better than . . .
  • Illinois:  Perhaps there is a new coach next year?
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2018, 08:39:35 AM »
1) Ohio State
2) Wisconsin
3) Penn State
4) Michigan State
5) Michigan
6) Iowa
7) Maryland
8) Indiana
9) Minnesota
10) Nebraska
11) Northwestern
12) Purdue
13) Rutgers
14) Illinois
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 08:51:28 AM »
Something I thought I would throw out there:

For anyone who is unfamiliar with this and thinks that it is an exercise in homerism, it isn't.  So far there are 12 votes:

  • Ohio State has 11 first place votes.  The one person who did NOT vote them #1 is an Ohio State fan who has them third behind UW and PSU.  
  • Wisconsin has 10 second place votes.  One of the two people who does NOT have them #2 is a Wisconsin fan who has them third behind tOSU and PSU.  
  • Penn State has mostly (7 out of 12) third place votes.  Three people have them at #2 and one of the three did so at the expense of his own team.  Two people have them at #4 and one of those is the only PSU fan to have voted so far.  
This is NOT uncommon.  I typically see things like this when I compile the votes.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2018, 08:52:59 AM »
So we're a bunch of sandbaggers then?


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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2018, 09:21:04 AM »
LOL, Medina, you've always been a tough grader when it comes to the Terrapins.  I'll know Maryland has arrived when there aren't so many "yeah but"s in your evaluations.  (I remember in July when you and I talked about how you had the Texas game in the impossible win column).

Go Buckeyes!

ETA: I don't think they should be any higher than you have them, actually...
« Last Edit: September 10, 2018, 09:43:58 AM by JerseyTerrapin »
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2018, 11:49:28 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on September 10, 2018, 08:51:28 AM
Something I thought I would throw out there:

For anyone who is unfamiliar with this and thinks that it is an exercise in homerism, it isn't.  So far there are 12 votes:

  • Ohio State has 11 first place votes.  The one person who did NOT vote them #1 is an Ohio State fan who has them third behind UW and PSU.  
  • Wisconsin has 10 second place votes.  One of the two people who does NOT have them #2 is a Wisconsin fan who has them third behind tOSU and PSU.  
  • Penn State has mostly (7 out of 12) third place votes.  Three people have them at #2 and one of the three did so at the expense of his own team.  Two people have them at #4 and one of those is the only PSU fan to have voted so far.  
This is NOT uncommon.  I typically see things like this when I compile the votes.  
It isn't just us. The same phenomenon occurs on other boards, for other sports.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2018, 12:18:43 PM »
Last week in parenthesis...

  • OHIO STATE (2) - I think Haskins will end up being the best NFL prospect Urban has ever had
  • WISCONSIN (1) - took a minute to wake up
  • PENN STATE (4) - silenced any concerns following the Appy State scare
  • IOWA (6) - really surprised at how little they got from the offense
  • MICHIGAN (7) - amazing how much better things look when you get your run game going
  • MICHIGAN STATE (3) - a loss there was predictable/forgivable, but the OL and red zone concerns are now legitimate issues
  • MARYLAND (8) - Bowling Green is horrible, but Maryland totally buried them
  • MINNESOTA (11) - that Fresno State win is a LOT better than people are crediting them with
  • INDIANA (12) - Virginia ain't special, but it's a Power 5 win
  • NORTHWESTERN (5) - where did the offense go?
  • NEBRASKA (10) - probably a more forgivable loss than Northwestern's but can't move them up until we know if Adrian Martinez is playing going forward
  • PURDUE (9) - 0-2, both at home, both to teams that look lousy, maybe a dose of reality for how big the rebuild is
  • RUTGERS (13) - at least they scored?
  • ILLINOIS (14) - worst 2-0 team in the country?
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2018, 01:35:18 PM »

1) Ohio State

2) Wisconsin

3) Penn State

4) Michigan

5) Michigan State

6) Iowa

7) Minnesota

8) Northwestern

9) Maryland

10) Indiana

11) Nebraska

12) Purdue

13) Rutgers

14) Illinois


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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2018, 03:14:49 PM »
Quote from: JerseyTerrapin on September 10, 2018, 09:21:04 AM
LOL, Medina, you've always been a tough grader when it comes to the Terrapins.  I'll know Maryland has arrived when there aren't so many "yeah but"s in your evaluations.  (I remember in July when you and I talked about how you had the Texas game in the impossible win column).

Go Buckeyes!

ETA: I don't think they should be any higher than you have them, actually...
I am impressed with that win but we'll learn a lot this week when Texas hosts USC.  I'm also eagerly anticipating Maryland at Michigan in early October.  
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medinabuckeye1

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2018, 03:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 10, 2018, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 10, 2018, 08:52:59 AM
So we're a bunch of sandbaggers then?


:86:

It isn't just us. The same phenomenon occurs on other boards, for other sports.
Some of it might be sandbagging but I think there are at least two other factors:
First, I think that most of us don't want to be perceived as homers so sometimes I think a lot of posters basically push their own team down a spot when in doubt (this could also be sandbagging).  
Second, I think we see the flaws in our own teams more clearly than we see the flaws in other teams.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2018, 03:21:54 PM »
I'll wait a bit to see if we get a few more votes before I post results but I will say that, so far, four distinct groups have emerged:

The top teams:  Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State (all within 1.80 of each other)

The upper-middle:  Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, Maryland (all within 2.00 of each other)

The lower-middle:  Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern (all within 1.20 of each other)

The bottom teams:  Purdue, Rutgers, Illinois (all within 1.20 of each other)
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2018, 03:36:37 PM »
Maryland in a nutshell this weekend....

10 penalties in the first half took us out of the endzone once for sure, and maybe another. 

Most were on offense.  That worries me due to lack of discipline / Durkin not there.

BG put up 24 on Oregon at Oregon and almost 400 yards. Maryland held them, in their first home game, to less than 160.

Defense allowed only 15 yards rushing, which isn't amazing given they run an air raid offense, but they had 1 guy with over 100 last week. 

I think we threw it once in the 2nd half. The RB's ran the score up. Obviously, BG's defense is terrible. 

Texas does not look that great still, sadly.

However, Temple may be worse, and Minnesota at Maryland could be trouble for Minny. 

Brooks is a freaking beast at LB. Great nose for the ball and game.

All the starters and main contributors are top notch in my opinion, but behind them, very inexperienced.

Like I've said before, if the QB's stay healthy, they can be very good. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 2
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2018, 04:21:43 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on September 10, 2018, 03:21:54 PM
I'll wait a bit to see if we get a few more votes before I post results but I will say that, so far, four distinct groups have emerged:

The top teams:  Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State (all within 1.80 of each other)

The upper-middle:  Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, Maryland (all within 2.00 of each other)

The lower-middle:  Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern (all within 1.20 of each other)

The bottom teams:  Purdue, Rutgers, Illinois (all within 1.20 of each other)
This is how I see it as well.   I think UNL is top of that lower middle, maybe even in the upper middle by end of the year with a healthy QB.   Else.... Lower Middle.   while the news was good today, I think we need to see how his knee really responds before changing. 
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