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Topic: B1G, PAC, ACC

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2021, 05:17:06 PM »
I read that twice and don't see anything of note.


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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2021, 05:19:08 PM »
I read that twice and don't see anything of note.
It's a statement that "we" are a group of good people committed to all good causes.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2021, 05:29:40 PM »
It's a statement that "we" are a group of good people committed to all good causes.
I submit the same about the posters here.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2021, 07:00:27 PM »
I submit the same about the posters here.
Yes, but the subject is the ACC-B1G-Pac-12 Alliance, not the posters here.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #60 on: August 24, 2021, 09:35:26 PM »
Understandable defensive move to undermine the power imbalance created by SEC/ESPN. While others may criticize this alliance as doing too little, I applaud the lack of panic (we don’t want to weaken the B1G brand with hasty decisions). A scheduling alliance is enough for now, and if it turns into something more positive, then great.

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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2021, 09:41:19 PM »
So, if all that happens, the Big 12 dissolves. Then OU and UT don't have to pay anything. Correct?
I think the Alliance will string the B12 along just long enough to milk all they can from the 2 new SEC Teets. 
Then cannibalize any parts wort salvaging. 

I also think the Alliance will come up with Rules that will intentionally disqualify SEC teams from playing in their now; "we the good guys, who do all things for the betterment of the student, and are ambassadors for the purity of the game championship."

I'm sorry Alabama you signed 104 kids to scholarship over the last 4 years, where our rules clearly state you can only have 85. You are disqualified.
I'm sorry LSU you only played 8 conference games where our rules clearly say you must play 9. You are disqualified.
I'm sorry Auburn you played a division 2 team, our rules say you can't play any. You are disqualified. 
I'm sorry Oklahoma, you're Oklahoma. You are disqualified. 

Seven of the Top Ten teams in revenue reside in one conference, this is not good for the sport. 

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #62 on: August 24, 2021, 09:56:27 PM »
I think the Alliance will string the B12 along just long enough to milk all they can from the 2 new SEC Teets.
Then cannibalize any parts wort salvaging.
I'm not sure what this means?  The Alliance won't get anything from Texas or OU.  The B12 will, but the B12 has been told with no uncertainty that it is not part of the Alliance.  

Regardless, if the B12 doesn't dissolve, then OU and Texas will negotiate a buyout that's likely around 40% of the stated contractual penalty, same as every other team that's left one conference for another over the past 11 years, including 3 teams that departed their prior conferences to join the B1G during that time period.


Seven of the Top Ten teams in revenue reside in one conference, this is not good for the sport.

This I completely agree with.  I wish things were different.  But here we are.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #63 on: August 24, 2021, 11:24:14 PM »
While the brawn will win some battles, the brain typically wins the war.

The SEC just flexed and picked up something heavy in order to show off and look tough and everyone is impressed in the moment, but in the long run they are still a big dumb tough guy who is going to be completely out of his element once tactical strategies come into play.

They might find themselves as a glorified NFL Minor League, completely cut off from the CFB Universe. 
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2021, 11:50:45 PM »
Yes, that's true.  But I don't see all those moves happening.  Maybe none of those moves, realistically.
There is no incentive to dissolve the Big 8 before a cash settlement is made.

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« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2021, 12:06:10 AM »
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2021, 08:26:17 AM »
You're just laying it on a lil thick.  This is about 
1 - money
and
2 - football
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The end.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2021, 08:33:01 AM »
There is no incentive to dissolve the Big 8 before a cash settlement is made.

If any of the remaining 8 were hot enough commodities to be dueled over by the B1G, PAC, or ACC, then they'd be poached immediately, before any settlement is finalized.  The PAC is in the weakest position, they really could use a footprint that expanded into the Central time zone, and there are two or three B12 schools that draw better television numbers than every school in the PAC not named USC or Oregon.

Even so, I don't see it happening.  It still likely wouldn't cause the PAC's media partners to increase the per-school payout, at most they'd break even with the additions, and the added logistical headaches would make it a net negative.

Texas and OU are prepared to pay the buyouts, otherwise they'd never have announced the change in conference affiliation.  But honestly, when Texas and OU negotiate it down to maybe $40M each, that's $80M total, which is only $10M per remaining B12 school.  That's really not a whole lot, $10M represents around 10% of ONE year of athletic budget for most of those remaining 8.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2021, 08:50:13 AM »
Public entities put a lot of effort into PR, this to me looks like it's 99.9% PR.

There could be the "warm and fuzzy" Alliance of sorts, and the Real Man Football conference.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2021, 09:03:02 AM »
Pete Thamel on Finebaum yesterday had a great quote. I am paraphrasing but he said this was the Seinfeld Alliance; an alliance about nothing. In the same show Finebaum quoted McBeth; "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

 

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