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Honestbuckeye

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #70 on: August 25, 2021, 09:32:08 AM »
Pete Thamel on Finebaum yesterday had a great quote. I am paraphrasing but he said this was the Seinfeld Alliance; an alliance about nothing. In the same show Finebaum quoted McBeth; "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
They may prove to be correct. I have no idea how this will play out.

The one little nugget I took from this is the specific part they spoke about putting a little halt on the proposed 12 team playoff because so many of the members of the alliance were not at the table for that conversation.

I am just spit bawling here and this may never happen, but if the alliance has influence over the playoff and actually has the power to stop it, then this will be a lot more than “nothing”
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2021, 09:36:53 AM »
I hope The Alliance stops the expansion, that would be awesome.

Maybe they can limit any future expansion to 8 teams only, with zero stupid byes.

It'd even better if they kill the playoff entirely and take us back to the era of Bowls 'n' Polls.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2021, 09:38:43 AM »
That’s just it…. If they do separate on the playoff, all you would have left following it is the SEC.   

Not sure how that would go….
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #73 on: August 25, 2021, 09:42:23 AM »
That’s just it…. If they do separate on the playoff, all you would have left following it is the SEC. 

Not sure how that would go….

Fanboi message board talk isn't the same as real life.  I'd be pretty surprised if the SEC "withdrew" from the current playoff, even if it's held up and limited to four teams.

Unless of course the SEC ultimately managed to poach the valuable properties from the ACC and PAC as well. 

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #74 on: August 25, 2021, 09:44:42 AM »
Maybe they are planning to kill the B12 and make the playoff 4 teams, conference champs only...

That'll get the P12 on board since they can't seem to consistently field a worthy team otherwise...

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #75 on: August 25, 2021, 09:46:56 AM »
Maybe they are planning to kill the B12 and make the playoff 4 teams, conference champs only...

That'll get the P12 on board since they can't seem to consistently field a worthy team otherwise...

I think this would be a tough sell for the G5 since they were already being promised access to the expanded playoff.  The anti-collusion anti-trust talks would fire up again.  At that point, I think the only scenario left, would be an NCAA breakaway for the P4 conferences, in football at least.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #76 on: August 25, 2021, 10:14:31 AM »
I think this would be a tough sell for the G5 since they were already being promised access to the expanded playoff.  The anti-collusion anti-trust talks would fire up again.  At that point, I think the only scenario left, would be an NCAA breakaway for the P4 conferences, in football at least.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2021, 10:15:49 AM »
Maybe the SEC will form a counter alliance with the Big12.  Snicker.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #78 on: August 25, 2021, 10:31:36 AM »
I think this is more about a getting something of a consensus in the post-NIL era where the NCAA passes most rules & enforcement to the conferences.  Per ESPN on July 15, 2021 "NCAA President Mark Emmert said Thursday the time is right to consider a decentralized and deregulated version of college sports, shifting power to conferences and campuses and reconsidering how schools are aligned.".
With the upcoming NCAA constitutional convention in November, this is a good time to start getting ideas in order.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #79 on: August 25, 2021, 11:02:42 AM »
Pete Thamel on Finebaum yesterday had a great quote. I am paraphrasing but he said this was the Seinfeld Alliance; an alliance about nothing. In the same show Finebaum quoted McBeth; "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
There's also the possibility that they are keeping their cards close to the vest, instead of laying them out on the table. 
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #80 on: August 25, 2021, 11:58:38 AM »
I think this would be a tough sell for the G5 since they were already being promised access to the expanded playoff.  The anti-collusion anti-trust talks would fire up again.  At that point, I think the only scenario left, would be an NCAA breakaway for the P4 conferences, in football at least.
They could potentially weasel out by making it the top ranked conference champions. That way if some obviously inferior conference champ (say a 3-loss winner of a weak P4 division who scores an upset in the CCG) is ranked lower than some undefeated G6 team, the G6 still has a potential entry point. 

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #81 on: August 25, 2021, 12:31:58 PM »
If the SEC was playing Chess instead of Checkers, they'd respond to this by promptly poaching a pod from the ACC; Clemson, Florida St, UNC and Miami. 
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