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847badgerfan

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B1G, PAC, ACC
« on: August 14, 2021, 09:50:07 AM »
This could get interesting.

Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 actively discussing alliance to counter SEC's growing power, per report - CBSSports.com
Big Ten, ACC, Pac-12 actively discussing alliance to counter SEC's growing power, per report - CBSSports.com
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 10:42:54 AM »
A CFB topic?  😂

This could get VERY interesting.  I feel like standing pat is not a good choice for these conferences.  Looking forward to watching this play out. 
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 10:43:09 AM »
no Big 12?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2021, 11:16:26 AM »
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2021, 01:23:06 PM »
From what I've read (you know, only radically-slanted leftist rubbish), it would just be a general scheduling thing.
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So I'm guessing it would have the goal of making sure each conference has full schedules and that the top programs always have a "big-boy" OOC team scheduled, for good optics.  If they were smart about it, they'd mostly halt the ebb and flow of sometimes strong-sometimes weak schedules and make them more consistent.

Also, if they were really smart about it, they'd agree to schedule-share their underling teams as cannon-fodder for the other conference's power programs so that those teams get as many wins as possible.
I'd put teams into one of two pools:  pool A (Clemson, OSU, Oregon, etc) who have 1 team from pool A scheduled every year and have 2 from pool B (the others) to maximize wins.

But this whole coalition could be something more.  I'm just thinking out loud here.  
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2021, 02:14:55 PM »
Seems like a relegation/promotion situation for scheduling purposes could work here
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 02:28:17 PM »


We already have promotion and relegation. Teams move up from FCS after winning enough titles (Boise, Marshal, etc), teams move down from FBS if their situation gets untenable (Idaho), Conference realignment leaves certain teams in the dust (Rice) while promoting others that bring more to the table (Louisville). Entire conferences have been relegated (Ivy, WAC), others have moved up to D1 in unison (Big West). 

Temple got "promoted" when the Big East was formed, then they got "relegated" when they were kicked out, and UConn was "promoted" to take their spot.  Then the Owls got "promoted" again when the Big East was hemorrhaging members, then they got "relegated" again when the Big East lost their BCS status and became the American. 

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2021, 03:43:08 PM »
I had thought this would be SEC and ACC, and then B1G and PAC, more alignment than consolidation.

It sounds like a P5 league really, two of them.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 03:44:25 PM »
Could the purpose be to "not schedule SEC teams," thus having the most interesting nonconference intersectional matchups while excluding the SEC from such matchups?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2021, 04:02:28 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on August 14, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
Could the purpose be to "not schedule SEC teams," thus having the most interesting nonconference intersectional matchups while excluding the SEC from such matchups?
That's what I was thinking... 

If we can just get the FCS to stop accepting SEC paycheck games, they'll have nobody left to play OOC except the B12... I'm sure Texas and Oklahoma will be happy about that :57:
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2021, 04:38:33 PM »
The ACC is going to want Rose Bowl access, while the Big Ten and PAC 12 are going to want to get in on the guaranteed games vs Notre Dame... Right?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2021, 05:13:42 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 14, 2021, 04:38:33 PM
The ACC is going to want Rose Bowl access, while the Big Ten and PAC 12 are going to want to get in on the guaranteed games vs Notre Dame... Right?

Wouldn't that be great? Ohio State would be guaranteed it could play Notre Dame once every 29-years. I appreciate your sense of humor.  I have no idea how bowls will work with a 12-team playoff. Personally, I am opposed to the 12-team playoff; that said I see it coming.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2021, 05:30:20 PM »
Oops, my math was wrong. Each member of the alliance would be guaranteed one game against Notre Dame every 40-years.
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2021, 05:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on August 14, 2021, 05:30:20 PM
Oops, my math was wrong. Each member of the alliance would be guaranteed one game against Notre Dame every 40-years.


Not necessarily. They don't really have much history with the SEC, and most of the teams that they play a lot are in these other three Conferences. So it makes sense for them to be part of this alliance in some capacity, since they could do so without having to join a conference. So you'd work out some deal where they play nine games against teams from the Big Ten, Pac 12 and ACC, and zero games against teams from the SEC, which is basically what they do anyway. They'd have their "annuals" like USC, Stanford, Michigan, etc and they'd probably want to play teams like Clemson, Florida St, Miami, Michigan St, etc a lot. 
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