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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #84 on: August 25, 2021, 08:42:32 PM »
Maybe they are planning to kill the B12 and make the playoff 4 teams, conference champs only...

That'll get the P12 on board since they can't seem to consistently field a worthy team otherwise...
the SEC wouldn't go for it

only one team in a playoff?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #85 on: August 25, 2021, 08:51:35 PM »
the SEC wouldn't go for it

only one team in a playoff?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2021, 08:32:01 AM »
I think we just have to wait and see if this alliance is some paper doodling or something real when it comes to football.

If most of those Presidents are against the 12 team scheme, it wouldn't pass anyway.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2021, 08:51:27 AM »
I'm not sure what this means?  The Alliance won't get anything from Texas or OU.  The B12 will, but the B12 has been told with no uncertainty that it is not part of the Alliance.

I responded to your comment that the Alliance would pick up pieces of the remaining B12, so Texas and OU wouldn't have to pay.

I was trying to say the Alliance would allow the B12 to remain intact until the settlement was made, and then pick up the pieces. So, correct the Alliance wouldn't directly get the money but those schools who are joining would get a check.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #88 on: August 26, 2021, 09:03:34 AM »
if the B1G and/or the PAC don't find value in the remaining Big 12 programs, why would the alliance give them a hand?
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2021, 09:04:43 AM »
I responded to your comment that the Alliance would pick up pieces of the remaining B12, so Texas and OU wouldn't have to pay.

I was trying to say the Alliance would allow the B12 to remain intact until the settlement was made, and then pick up the pieces. So, correct the Alliance wouldn't directly get the money but those schools who are joining would get a check.

Gotcha.

I'm not sure why that would matter to the Alliance conferences, whether or not the remaining B12 schools picked up an extra $10M or so?

I think if the Alliance conferences see any value in any of the remaining B12 schools, then they'll be snatched up sooner rather than later.  If not, then I don't see it happening two years from now, just so some schools can grab some exit money.

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« Reply #90 on: August 26, 2021, 09:10:01 AM »
not worth the effort to simply stick it to Texas and Oklahoma for a few bucks
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #91 on: August 26, 2021, 04:47:17 PM »

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #92 on: August 26, 2021, 05:26:37 PM »
not worth the effort to simply stick it to Texas and Oklahoma for a few bucks
I don't realistically see the PAC, ACC, or B1G picking up any of the remaining B12 teams.  So the B12 will remain intact, probably adding some teams from G5, and Texas and OU will negotiate their buyouts down considerably, just like every other school that's left a conference in the past 11 years.  And the Horns and the Sooners will be playing football in the SEC in the fall of 2022.



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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2021, 05:39:15 PM »
2022? 

So then 2021 is going to be Oklahoma's last chance to make the playoffs and Texas's last chance to finish bowl eligible for quite some time. 

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2021, 07:00:39 PM »
Texas does just fine against SEC teams, it's TCU and Maryland that the Horns struggle with.

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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2021, 07:11:18 PM »
Texas does just fine against SEC teams, it's TCU and Maryland that the Horns struggle with.

A&M's already on the phone trying to convince the others how beneficial the Frogs n Terps would be....
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #96 on: August 26, 2021, 07:11:53 PM »
2022?

So then 2021 is going to be Oklahoma's last chance to make the playoffs and Texas's last chance to finish bowl eligible for quite some time.

Do they do it?
not Texas

we will stink up the joint for another year
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Re: B1G, PAC, ACC
« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2021, 07:46:01 AM »
I tend to doubt he has inside info.

FOX Sports analyst Dave Wannstedt says several Big 12 teams on the verge of finding new conferences (saturdaydownsouth.com)

several Big 12 schools are already making plans to join other conferences in the future. He said Oklahoma State and Kansas State will join the Pac-12, West Virginia will join the ACC and Kansas and Iowa State will join the Big Ten.

 

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