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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2017, 02:13:36 PM »
did a quick google search to jog memory, some of these might already be mentioned:

93 nd
04 and 08 utah
06 and 09 boise
10 tcu
93 and 04 au
88, 00 and 02 miami
99 va tech (vick)
79 usc
08 and 09 texas
77 and 13 bama
70 and 75 asu
73 and 85 psu
11 ok st
00 washington
08 texas tech
10 oregon
81 pitt
09 uf
72, 73 and 86 ou
87 fsu
73 osu

1973 had what seems like a ridiculous amount of good teams.
11-0 nd ( ap champion (post bowls))
12-0 psu (won orange)
11-1 bama (upi champion (pre-bowl) lost to nd in sugar by 1 in epic game)
10-0-1 oklahoma (no bowl, probation)
11-1 asu (fiesta winners (before it was major bowl))
10-0-1 osu (rose winners)
10-0-1 michigan (no bowl, tied osu and b1g voted to send osu to rose amid controversy)
also had:
11-1 texas tech
11-1 houston
9-1 temple
11-0 miami (oh)
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #99 on: December 14, 2017, 07:15:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 14, 2017, 12:20:16 PM
Okay, so what's their best squad since the early 70s?  It doesn't have to be great to be their best.
Since the early 70s it would have to be one of the Mason-coached teams, right? They had some tough, competitive teams under him. Not barn burners, but you know, it's Minnesota.
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« Reply #100 on: December 14, 2017, 08:52:02 PM »
The best Gopher season since 1970 appears to be 2003, when they went 10-3. All three of the losses were to the only ranked teams that they played: Michigan, Michigan State and Iowa. They beat Oregon in the Sun Bowl. They finished ranked 17/20. 

They went 9-4 in 2016 with a Bowl win, but finished unranked.

They went 8-4 in 1999 with a Bowl loss, but finished ranked 17/18.  

Every other season during that stretch they had 5 or more losses, and finished unranked. 
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1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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« Reply #101 on: December 14, 2017, 08:57:27 PM »
I feel like 1973 and 1985 were very unique seasons - so many strong teams.  
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« Reply #102 on: December 14, 2017, 10:57:10 PM »
85 was indeed the most interesting jan1st.  Miami, Penn st, ou, Iowa all had a chance to claim the title that day.  Tenn killed Miami in the Sugar.   UCLA had there way w Iowa*. OU pulled away from undefeated Psu in the Orange.

*some Iowa fans I know claim certain players were on the take.  Btw, some N fans claim Fryar did the same in the OB vs Miami after the 83 season.  Fryar dropped a simple td catch in the 4th qtr. 
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« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2017, 11:13:56 PM »
In 2003, Minnesota was 10-3, losing to Michigan (10-3), Michigan State (8-5), and Iowa (10-3). It was their first 10 win season since 1905. Little wonder as to why they won 10. They played 5 non-1A schools, one of which was a High School!

In researching this, 1903 really caught my eye. Minnesota beat Macalester (MN) 112-0, Grinnell (IA) 39-0, Lawrence (WI) 46-0, and Beloit (WI) 46-0. Today all of those schools are in the Midwest Conference in Division III. My grandson played for Beloit this year.
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2017, 11:54:18 PM »
Lawrence probably had their marching band playing two ways in that game. 
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« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2017, 08:35:04 AM »
Quote from: ALA2262 on December 14, 2017, 11:13:56 PM
In 2003, Minnesota was 10-3, losing to Michigan (10-3), Michigan State (8-5), and Iowa (10-3). It was their first 10 win season since 1905. Little wonder as to why they won 10. They played 5 non-1A schools, one of which was a High School!

In researching this, 1903 really caught my eye. Minnesota beat Macalester 112-0, Grinnell 39-0, Lawrence 46-0, and Beloit 46-0. Today all of those schools are in the Midwest Conference in Division III. My grandson played for Beloit this year.
Yeah, 2003 was their best team of my lifetime.  They gagged away that Michigan game in epic fashion on Friday night (Twins playoff game Saturday), and their defense failed them against MSU and Iowa.
Other side of the coin, they beat nobody in getting there.  They finished 6th in the Big Ten that year.  They lost to the 1st (UM), 4th (MSU) and 5th (Iowa) place teams; and didn't play 2nd or 3rd (OSU and Purdue).  Their OOC was Tulsa, Troy and Ohio.  Their best win was over an 8-4 Oregon team in the Sun Bowl.
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« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2017, 08:40:50 AM »
2003 was the last time Minny beat Wisconsin. So yeah, it's gotta be that year.
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« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2017, 09:05:48 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 15, 2017, 08:40:50 AM
2003 was the last time Minny beat Wisconsin. So yeah, it's gotta be that year.
Wow.  Geez.  That's... that's really rough.  We've had some pretty bad losing streaks against rivals, but that would be debilitating to my enthusiasm for the sport.
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« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
In 1977, Texas had 5 different players throw an interception and had 4 different players punt at least 3 times....

So we've got 77, 81, 83, then 08 and 09.  I like 08 over 09 because McCoy was better and had two 1000 yard WRs...but the 09 defense was much better.

77 has Earl Campbell and nobody really stands out for me in 81 or 83.  Anyone with more to contribute?
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2017, 12:48:10 PM »
Quote from: ALA2262 on December 14, 2017, 11:13:56 PM
In 2003, Minnesota was 10-3, losing to Michigan (10-3), Michigan State (8-5), and Iowa (10-3). It was their first 10 win season since 1905. Little wonder as to why they won 10. They played 5 non-1A schools, one of which was a High School!

In researching this, 1903 really caught my eye. Minnesota beat Macalester (MN) 112-0, Grinnell (IA) 39-0, Lawrence (WI) 46-0, and Beloit (WI) 46-0. Today all of those schools are in the Midwest Conference in Division III. My grandson played for Beloit this year.
What?
Minnesota's OOC opponents were
8/30vs.Tulsa (8-5)W4910
9/6vs.Troy (6-6)W487
9/13@Ohio (2-10)W4220
9/20vs.Louisiana-Lafayette (4-8)W4814
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2017, 01:39:58 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on December 15, 2017, 12:48:10 PM
What?
Minnesota's OOC opponents were



8/30vs.Tulsa (8-5)W4910
9/6vs.Troy (6-6)W487
9/13@Ohio (2-10)W4220
9/20vs.Louisiana-Lafayette (4-8)W4814

He was talking about the 1903 team. Same year, different century. :)
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2017, 01:56:39 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 15, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
He was talking about the 1903 team. Same year, different century. :)
I should have quoted the passage to which I was responding.
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In 2003, Minnesota was 10-3, losing to Michigan (10-3), Michigan State (8-5), and Iowa (10-3). It was their first 10 win season since 1905. Little wonder as to why they won 10. They played 5 non-1A schools, one of which was a High School!
1903 Minnesota was 14-0-1.
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