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Topic: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...

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Kris61

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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2017, 10:44:32 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 14, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
OSU's best seasons without a NC (won the NC in 1942, 54, 57, 61, 68, 70, 2002, 14)

undefeated, untied: 1916, 44, 2012

Undefeated with at least one tie: 1899, 1917, 73

One-loss: 1900, 06, 10, 15, 19, 20, 26, 32, 33, 34, 35, 41, 49, 58, 69, 75, 79, 93, 96, 98, 2006, 10, 15

Two losses: 1891, 1902, 05, 07, 13, 14, 21, 28, 30, 37, 39, 45, 55, 60, 64, 65, 72, 74, 76, 95, 2003, 05, 07, 09, 13, 16, 17(?)
That '98 Buckeye team was damn good. You put them on a neutral field with Tennessee that year and I'd take Ohio St
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2017, 11:14:54 AM »
the 1915 UNL team was 8-0, beat ND and won by an average score of 35-5 (average of pts scored vs pts given up for all 8 games).
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2017, 12:12:51 PM »
Quote from: Entropy on December 14, 2017, 11:14:54 AM
the 1915 UNL team was 8-0, beat ND and won by an average score of 35-5 (average of pts scored vs pts given up for all 8 games).
1915, okay....get me the QB, top 4 rushers, and top 6 receivers from that team....lol.
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2017, 12:19:03 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 13, 2017, 10:44:08 PM
Okay....no love for Illinios or Minny...or BC.  
I love Minny, but I was 6 years and 2 days away from being born the last time they played in the Rose Bowl.
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2017, 12:19:38 PM »
The '99 Wolverines don't look like anything special, looking back.  Brady had an average rating, the team didn't run the ball particularly well.  Nothing amazing on defense.  A lot of close wins basically.  

'06 had as good a QB output (Henne), a better running game (Hart), 3-deep at plus WR (Breaston, Manningham, Arrington), better kicker, better return game, and an all-time great run D.  

Brady's NFL greatness has nothing to do with a college football game....
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2017, 12:20:16 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 14, 2017, 12:19:03 PM
I love Minny, but I was 6 years and 2 days away from being born the last time they played in the Rose Bowl.
Okay, so what's their best squad since the early 70s?  It doesn't have to be great to be their best.
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2017, 12:27:01 PM »
Would the undefeated 1992 Michigan team get any love?  They didn't lose a game, and their primary ball-carrier averaged 7.3 ypc.  
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2017, 12:38:51 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 14, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
1915, okay....get me the QB, top 4 rushers, and top 6 receivers from that team....lol.
QB's name was John Cook.  The offense went through the HB.. his name was Guy Chamberlin.... perhaps you've heard of him.  
Top 6 wr's??  in 1915??  again... top 6.... was there even a top 1 WR?
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2017, 12:46:17 PM »
I was just joking with you.  To produce a valid set of team cards for this game, I can't go back past the early 70s for teams.  
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2017, 12:49:37 PM »
=)

actually, I was just adding to the discussion in a way that Michigan fans could participate...   heh....
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2017, 12:50:00 PM »
You'd have to go back to the 1870s, if you want to find any good Michigan teams. 
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1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2017, 12:52:33 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 14, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Would the undefeated 1992 Michigan team get any love?  They didn't lose a game, and their primary ball-carrier averaged 7.3 ypc.  
Big Ten sucked that year.  Their win over a 3-loss Washington (which lost 3 of it's final 4, once QB Billy Jo Hobert went down IIRC) in the Rose Bowl was easily their best win of the year.  After that?  I guess beating 6 loss MSU and Indiana teams by 20+ points at home?
Even the ties, aside from Notre Dame, weren't much, an 8-3-1 OSU team, and a 6-5-1 Illinois team.
It's actually pretty impressive the Big Ten managed to put together a year where 8-3-1 was the 2nd best record, and 6-5-1 was 3rd.  MSU actually finished in 3rd place that year at 5-3, but went 0-3 OOC (including a home loss to Central Michigan) to not even finish bowl eligible.  
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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2017, 01:04:57 PM »
ok.. to asst...

1983 Nebraska
1972 OU - though maybe we should eliminate teams that had to vacate wins due to violations...??
1973 OU - due to issues in 72, couldn't play in the post season but beat something like 6 or 7 ranked teams that year.  Just dominated many of them too
1989 ND has to be considered... they were a very good team that lost to a revenge fueled Miami team.
1988 Miami was already mentioned as well, but get's my vote
1994 PSU.. same as Miami 1988
2005 USC... they were very talented
1987 FSU

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Re: All-Time Great Non-National Champion Teams...
« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2017, 01:50:10 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 14, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Would the undefeated 1992 Michigan team get any love?  
not from me
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