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Topic: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18

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WhiskeyM

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #392 on: October 21, 2018, 02:51:36 PM »
You'll get yours next year - well played & congrats
Thanks Nubbz.  Purdue is now 5-3 at home against tOSU since 2000.  I was at that 2000 game for the "Holy Toledo" that started this lovely trend.
Unfortunately for yinz, the Boilers and Bucks dont play the next 2 years.  You will have to wait until the 2021 season to get your vengeance at the Shoe.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #393 on: October 21, 2018, 03:39:54 PM »
Exhibit A of voter’s laziness.  Bump everyone up one spot, ignoring opponents and margins of victory.  Ugh.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #394 on: October 21, 2018, 04:18:22 PM »
I have wondered if there are ANY poll voters who put much thought and time in their ranking.  The writers are busy, the coaches have some graduate assistant do it, the results are trite.

And they don't matter.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #395 on: October 21, 2018, 04:35:57 PM »
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #396 on: October 21, 2018, 04:54:47 PM »
Thanks Nubbz.  Purdue is now 5-3 at home against tOSU since 2000.  I was at that 2000 game for the "Holy Toledo" that started this lovely trend.
Unfortunately for yinz, the Boilers and Bucks dont play the next 2 years.  You will have to wait until the 2021 season to get your vengeance at the Shoe.
You a Pennsltucky Purdue Fan?in 2000 didn't Brees drive the field late in the game?I know 2002 was the Holy Buckeye Krenzel to Jenkins on 4th and one.They didn't need to do that because they had Nugent(FG Kicker) and there was still I think a little more than 2 minutes - can't believe i didn't have a massive.Defensive game for sure.tOSU had no answers yesterday specially inside the 10.Good luck the rest of the season.Hopefully Brohm sticks around for your program
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #397 on: October 21, 2018, 05:11:49 PM »
So I watched a 20-minute highlight of Michigan-MSU. It showed every punt and many of the third downs, so obviously paints a certain picture. 

 But coming out of it I have to ask, why am I that impressed by Michigan again? Like that defense is super good, but it also just  murdered two offenses. whose top end quality I’m not particularly convinced of. The offense looked OK, occasionally good. But I didn’t come away saying that’s anything but the best team in the conference by default.  

Obviously Ohio State has the uglyer loss, but it’s under performing pieces seem talented enough to bounce back. Michigan seems like a team that played your standard Michigan State big game, but just held its own on the margins where the Spartans usually make things weird.( this is even the case with my favorite statistical system having them at number four) 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #398 on: October 21, 2018, 05:13:10 PM »
I have wondered if there are ANY poll voters who put much thought and time in their ranking.  The writers are busy, the coaches have some graduate assistant do it, the results are trite.

And they don't matter.
The Committee technically. The secret is always been these are mostly silly frivolities that are taken seriously because when we rank things it makes our brains go haywire. 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #399 on: October 21, 2018, 05:21:33 PM »
It's funny how a coach/asst. can be revered at one place and found revolting at another
It’s always a case of my problems are a big deal because they are my problems.  Unless things are going really well (Haskins last week), we tend to nitpick and focus on things that are what they are. I wrote somewhere earlier that every play callers are bad and most quarterbacks are bad in the eyes of their own fans. MCW is particularly prone to being mad, and here we are.
Now Canada is an interesting case becuase if you look back, I bet he only has one really great offense. But it came at a non-power and had the bonus he’s super creative. I might go back when I’m not on my phone and rank all his offenses by S&P. (Also worth noting he inherited a Jim Cheney offense at Pitt, which is a nice base)
I actually think his offense is kinda fascinating. Before this week, it was one of the most explosive in the county. But the run game wasn’t efficient and the pass game was in the bottom 10 of efficiency. Some of that is a freshman QB and backs that have never been super efficient. 
But at the end of the season, he’ll be hunting for a new job. The scandal likely means a year or two out of the P5. I could see him being a decent mid-major coach after that. 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #400 on: October 21, 2018, 05:31:16 PM »
So I watched a 20-minute highlight of Michigan-MSU. It showed every punt and many of the third downs, so obviously paints a certain picture.

 But coming out of it I have to ask, why am I that impressed by Michigan again? Like that defense is super good, but it also just  murdered two offenses. whose top end quality I’m not particularly convinced of. The offense looked OK, occasionally good. But I didn’t come away saying that’s anything but the best team in the conference by default.  

Obviously Ohio State has the uglyer loss, but it’s under performing pieces seem talented enough to bounce back. Michigan seems like a team that played your standard Michigan State big game, but just held its own on the margins where the Spartans usually make things weird.( this is even the case with my favorite statistical system having them at number four)
A team that is well-roundedly good?
True they are not perfect. Not a national champion. But do they have the ability to hit 11-1? Yeah. And though far from guaranteed, looking around it's even realistic.
Best defense in the conference by a margin you can really feel during the games. And an offense that is better than average at everything except 3rd & long and just ran for 4.3 YPC (sack adjusted) across 50 carries on the so-called #1 run defense in the country.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #401 on: October 21, 2018, 06:03:11 PM »
A team that is well-roundedly good?
True they are not perfect. Not a national champion. But do they have the ability to hit 11-1? Yeah. And though far from guaranteed, looking around it's even realistic.
Best defense in the conference by a margin you can really feel during the games. And an offense that is better than average at everything except 3rd & long and just ran for 4.3 YPC (sack adjusted) across 50 carries on the so-called #1 run defense in the country.
I’ll have to wait until the new advanced numbers come out to get a good sense of the offense. I might well find myself walking it back. 
I can’t shake the sense it’s not that well rounded. I just don’t see it on offense. It seems to hammer inefficiently, occasionally get magic from Patterson in space. Through the air, it’s fine, but maybe limited. 
Now maybe that means 11-1 because of the rest of the schedule. But It feels like there’s some confidence behind them, and I’m not feeling it yet. Maybe PSU changes my mind. 

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #402 on: October 21, 2018, 06:12:17 PM »
MCW is particularly prone to being mad, and here we are. 
What?
I'm critical. On here. That's not "mad". 
I was happy with Bell, but only when we had Piggy. Once the quarterbacks went down, I thought he did a terrible job at adjusting to Max.
I was critical of Canada before he got here and listed why before the season started.
My thoughts have come to fruition.
Are you telling me that if your best running back didn't touch the ball until the end of the 3rd quarter, you wouldn't question your offensive coordinator?
It doesn't surprise me though. The same people who praise His abilities as an offensive coordinator don't believe Ty Johnson is a good running back.

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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #403 on: October 21, 2018, 07:53:30 PM »
You a Pennsltucky Purdue Fan?in 2000 didn't Brees drive the field late in the game?I know 2002 was the Holy Buckeye Krenzel to Jenkins on 4th and one.They didn't need to do that because they had Nugent(FG Kicker) and there was still I think a little more than 2 minutes - can't believe i didn't have a massive.Defensive game for sure.tOSU had no answers yesterday specially inside the 10.Good luck the rest of the season.Hopefully Brohm sticks around for your program
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #404 on: October 21, 2018, 07:55:43 PM »
Maybe Canada's best running back got himself into the dog house for doing something none of us have heard about? 



I'm quite certain Canada is not playing to lose, for cripe pete. He's hoping for a head job.
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Re: All Hail the Supreme Leader SOC 10/20/18
« Reply #405 on: October 21, 2018, 08:51:42 PM »
I’ll have to wait until the new advanced numbers come out to get a good sense of the offense. I might well find myself walking it back.
I can’t shake the sense it’s not that well rounded. I just don’t see it on offense. It seems to hammer inefficiently, occasionally get magic from Patterson in space. Through the air, it’s fine, but maybe limited.
Now maybe that means 11-1 because of the rest of the schedule. But It feels like there’s some confidence behind them, and I’m not feeling it yet. Maybe PSU changes my mind.
I think that’s a pretty fair take. I’m not blown away by the offense either. Patterson’s refusal to throw down field is painful as a fan. 
The defense is on  another level. If the rains don’t show up and Michigan doesn’t fumble inside their own 10, I’m not sure MSU puts points on the board. The defense has been excellent, even with Gary absent.

 

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