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Topic: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game

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Reyd

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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #210 on: October 23, 2018, 01:35:05 PM »
Cherry picking complaint. Why is ND considered a rivalry and Penn State isn't when stating w/l records? Should UofM complain they(Penn State} are being treated like lil bros?
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #211 on: October 23, 2018, 01:48:59 PM »
They actually aren't rivals in the traditional sense. It's not a longstanding contest and neither claims the other as one (PSU technically claims no rivals; that's one of the meanings of their "#unrivaled" line).

In the more in-the-moment sense, I suppose you could call anyone a rival so long as they consistently stand between you and a championship. That would grow Michigan's rival lost to include PSU and UW. Harbaugh is 2-1 versus each of those (with another PSU match fast approaching). 

That'd go for a tentative 6-8 record versus "rivals," which is still bad for Michigan In Maintenance Mode. But of course Michigan isn't yet in maintenance mode. And maybe 6-8 is exactly what you'd expect for a helmet in Rebuilding Mode.

Whether near or far, I'm really looking forward to the time Michigan next returns to maintenance mode.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #212 on: October 23, 2018, 07:42:39 PM »
So it depends on where you drive the stake into the ground?  That was my point. Every opponent wants to rip the stake out of their logo and plant it in your logo. Competitive sports are what the name implies. My team beats on your team within the rules. We fans and writers will argue those rules until the cows come home. If that doesn't trip your palate then go watch the Hallmark channel.

The whines are free but we have to pay for the cheeses.

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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #213 on: October 23, 2018, 08:36:24 PM »
I've always thought a rivalry is any game that means more than if you pared it down to just the tangible standings importance of the game
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #214 on: October 23, 2018, 09:27:26 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 23, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
I've always thought a rivalry is any game that means more than if you pared it down to just the tangible standings importance of the game
That’s a good way of summarizing it. Rivalries can evolve too. Michigan / MN isn’t what it was in the 60’s & 70’s, even though it’s a cool trophy game with history. On the other end there are some newer forced rivalries with expansion that may not have gained the appropriate steam to meet the standard too.
Notre Dame - Michigan never had the real fire people make it out o be either. It’s non-conference, early in the season, and has been forced build-up. My disappointment isn’t the same as is with a loss to Michigan State or Ohio State.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #215 on: October 25, 2018, 07:34:44 AM »
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #216 on: October 25, 2018, 07:36:08 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on October 25, 2018, 07:34:44 AM
Big Ten fines Sparty $10K.....

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2018/10/24/big-ten-fines-msu-10-k-reprimands-dantonio-harbaugh-bush/1756031002/
And repremands Dantonio, Harbaugh and Bush for conduct.
Hopefully this is the end of this non story.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #217 on: October 25, 2018, 10:07:23 AM »
Quote from: ELA on October 25, 2018, 07:36:08 AM
And repremands Dantonio, Harbaugh and Bush for conduct.
Hopefully this is the end of this non story.
Yeah, yesterday the Big Ten office kind of ruined what was entirely fine rivalry stuff. It was also contradictory. How do you reprimand one team for what you've fined the other team for (and vice versa)? 

It felt to me like another "There are two personal fouls - One on each team ... They offset. Second down" situation.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #218 on: October 25, 2018, 01:31:44 PM »
Sometimes the suit’s in the league office want to let everyone know they are there. That’s what this comes off as. At least it’s not the PAC 10 officiating scandal.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #219 on: October 25, 2018, 05:58:52 PM »
sounds like Harbaugh cried to the league office and Dantonio got to write a check
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #220 on: October 26, 2018, 01:10:07 AM »
Miami game riot oct 14, 2006. These things are no big deal until they are.
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Re: #6 Michigan (5-0, 7-1) at #24 Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #221 on: October 26, 2018, 10:52:45 AM »
There could be a problem someday in the future in the B1G, but hopefully we don't have any program with issues like the 2006 and earlier Canes.

I don't think we do.
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